I couldn't help noticing that you all guys are demo users. From patch Z all users (incuding demo users) must have an account on lfsworld.net in order to race online, so that may be your problem. Have you opened an account on lfsworld?

TBH, I have never seen black tires in lfs, unless they are blown up. Dark blue is the darkest I've seen.

Or you can rent it from your local video rental store just to install the mod

Sorry but I didn't understand the question

In the UserData\username\controller.ini file you set...

Steering Wheel Range="360" // Degrees of rotation of in-game steering wheel

to the degrees you have set your wheel in its drivers (360 degrees in the above case).

From the buyer's (simmer's) pov what matters is what he gets for his money. Under this pov, rf's free mods are perfectly valid criteria for comparison

Last edited by migf1, Sat 5 Jul 2008, 11:00.

Quote from Dillyracer :

Problem is with these threads is that people tend to compare a modded rFactor game to a standard LFS game. Both have to be standard to really compare them.

Why's that? Modding is a feature rfactor utilizes while lfs does not! And since most mods are for free, the comparison is perfectly valid in my book.

Both sims have their pros & cons. I own them both, I enjoy them both (although I'm a lot more... fluent in LFS )

Quote from deggis :

Not very good video choices... http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=niels007007

Nice vids also, none of them showing an rfactor BF1 though! I happen to like that rf's single seater too!

Quote from G!NhO :

look at videos on youtube, rFactor looks very fake.
it doesnt live, if you know what i mean

Well, this one looks pretty live to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhfHf_Y6gI

Οκ, the above was edited. Next one is purely ingame (from demo too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 5M3JQ&feature=related

As usual, many things depend on your rig

Quote from migf1 :

I asked earlier but apparently it got lost amongst all this fuss about LFS's progress. Were Delete and Rename options on replays' screen causing any problems so they had to be removed in patch Z?

My fault after all! I was using a custom background on which while white lettering was there I couldn't see it

Quote from Juls :

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Haha, knew I did not dream! ISI default FFB setup is absolutely wrong when it removes all FFB as soon as you lose grip.

The ffb is weakening when you loose grip under heavy understeering, as it should. But the default ISI values exaggerate very much on this effect! Fortunately, you can change it in the controller.ini file.

Last edited by migf1, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 08:15.

I will, thanks! It could be that I had changed the background pics in Y.. I'll have a look at it as soon as I go home, tonight.

rfactor's tyre model is known to be inferior to that of lfs, but it is not that bad as it may seem at first. As Niels already said and depending on the mod, it takes a little bit of time to get used to it. Once you do, you can have some real fun! For a start, try to turn-in earlier than you are used to by lfs

I asked earlier but apparently it got lost amongst all this fuss about LFS's progress. Were Delete and Rename options on replays' screen causing any problems so they had to be removed in patch Z?

Are the Rename and Delete options on the replays' screen removed in patch Z? If so, was a particular reason for it? They were pretty useful!

Have you tried a fresh installation of LFS Z?

Strange! No problems here!

Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :

Plenty of aliens who wouldn't mind driving a mod with tyres that are impossbile.. He's very good, both real and virtual, agreed, but that doesn't mean that a mod is realistic when he plays it.

That seems to be very hard to grasp for simracers who often think real racers are gods!

Niels, please give me some credit here! I never said he is a god! All I said was he's the only rl driver I know who has proven in the long term he knows what he is doing in both rfactor and real life pcc and he was involved in the development of PCC FRance mod, which I also happen to enjoy driving (regardless its flaws).

Anyway, the dicussion got a bit twisted from suggested rf mods to sean edwards ability or not to judge a mod's handling... which is off topic I think.
No more Sean Edwards from me here

PS. LFS patch Z will keep me busy for a while

Techade: Thanks for the tyre temp info. I was looking long time for it!

ajp71: Regarding Edwards, I seriously doubt that he doesn't know how rfactor treats physics! He's an rfactor... alien!

http://www.f1rst3.com/bmw/
http://www.f1rst3.com/lupo/
http://www.f1rst3.com/megane/
http://www.f1rst3.com/megane/2006/
http://www.f1rst3.com/pcc/2006/
http://www.f1rst3.com/pcc/

And I'm pretty sure he's setting up his rf cars by himself

Hi again, Niels. Nothing essential to disagree about in your last post. As I said, I haven't tried HistoriX's Porsches yet, but I'm pretty sure I'll like them judging from your other work. Allow me though to insist that PCCFrance is a decent mod, as long as you spend sometime with it

About the rfactor tyres, do we have a clue how to check their optimal temp?

PS1. F1RST3 is just a client (Tyka's predecessor) for managing leagues, races, servers, members, teams, etc, etc.

PS2. Sean just happend to be the racer everyone wanted to beat on F1RST3 rf leagues for a couple (or more) seasons and along with the fact he's pretty damn talented in rl pcc (also a friend of Lewis Hamilton, if my memory serves me well) were the reasons I used him in my arguments.

Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :

Real porsche drivers also thought the first 911 mod (with 60% front weight..) was realistic.

I quite like the historic GT porsche 911s from the GTC76 class (2004 has the 2.8RSR / 3.0RSR and 2005 has the 2.4S). The rear weight really works..

Mind you I made those cars so I'm biased. And right.. hahahaa

I haven't tried them yet, Niels (only escort rs, mini and abarth so far). But I will surely do. Your escort rocks, btw!

What is the first 911 mod you mentioned above? The key difference between other real life drivers and Sean Edwards, is that Sean has also won 2 or 3 consecutive seasons on F1RST3 with rfactor! This season he doesn't participate in any rfactor league, though. On one of the linked pages I provided above, he says he wasn't 100% happy with the mod and suggested some improvements that were most probably included, but he's wondering why EnduRacers rushed to release the mod. But still, a good mode imho (I tried it on Nordschleife, Varano, Watkings Glen and Brianza)

And now a technical quetsion if you don't mind. Do you happen to know a way of knowing what is the optimal tyre temprature in rfactor? It must be somewhere between 80 and 100 degrees, depending on the car but I haven't found a way to know for sure (in LFS for example you see the optimal tire temp in the car's setup screen).

Well, i know for a fact that Sean Edwards (who besides his specialized real life experience is also an rfactor enthusiast, having won lots of leagues on F1RST3) was actively involved in this mod.
The mod may have its flaws, but still it is well worth a place in any rfactor installation, imho.

PS. I meant modern Porsche's, not historic

It's much better than PCC2007 though, especially on the limit! It's the only decent Porsche on rfactor so far, with handling that points to a Porsche (instead of a... hovercraft )

Last edited by migf1, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 22:42.

You certainly did something really wrong in that... installation!