Quote from Tomasevich :

This may have been mentioned, but you are unable to click on the car icons on the map without having the connection list open. If the connection list isn't open, there's no mouse. Perhaps set it so that the mouse shows up and disappears after a few seconds regardless of whether there are buttons on the screen?

+1. Pain in butt to move mouse for 2 seconds trying to find the cursor, then finding out you have to hit N twice, then move the mouse again to click on the arrow. Would be worthless if you needed to spec a teammate during a race, you'd probably crash.

Quote from mbutcher :

I really like the tail lights but LFS really needs tail lights like the ones on the current Aston Martins and Porsche 911's. It would make the supercars (ie. GTR) look really cool.

Mbutcher

This is not the suggestion subforum. It's for test patch bugs

FPS problem seems better since z16, 75-85 fps.

Quote from RudolfR :

I dont think that videocard is overheating :/. My max temp. have been 80c.
I last cleaned my computer heatsink last month.

OC?

OC = overclock. But since you don't know, it doesn't apply

Can you try running for an hour with the side panel off and a fan blowing into the case? Want to see if it's a heat problem.

It sounds like your videocard is overheating. When is the last time you cleaned out your case / videocard heatsink? Might want to get some compressed air.

Also, if you OC'd the card, try it with stock settings.

Quote from Ashley Williams :

Hope this hasnt been picked up before but here is a bug ive found i even made a viideo....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3TPCc2dz8

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Can you try turning on VSync? 250fps is nice, but that might be what's interfering with it. See if the bug is still there with v sync (also, may I suggest some AA for that 500fps you say you get? )

FPS problem: when turn button mode changed to classic style (2 buttons = 180 degrees) I get half of the max FPS when looking behind me, 30fps. I get constant 60 fps everywhere else with front/side view, only effects looking behind me. (phenom II x2 550 @ 3.8ghz, 4870 512, 1920x1080)

edit: it's a general FPS problem. Turned off vsync and it's only at about 60 most of the time. the 30 fps instance was looking behind while spectating someone, view had many barriers. I got much better FPS with z15.

Quote from Feffe85 :

Dunno if its a new or old issue, but found a shadow bug (first time i see a shadow bug.. EVER..) attached a img..

hey that's me! I think that's been so for awhile, I remember seeing shadows on the wall when someone spawns in pit garage next to me. Depends on the time of day/track

bug reports: everything smooth in game. After install of patch, I went into multiplayer, went into windowed mode by default, I went back to main menu to change that, and LFS crashed. No crashes after changing the setting, though. (windows 7 64-bit)

I might be up for something like this, haven't competitively raced in awhile. Once you guys get everything set up I should be on daily around 5-8pm EDT for about an hour or so. On weekends probably longer.

NO OVALS PLEASE!

logitech z4's sound good to me - I'm not an audiophile though.

Quote from pinoykid13 :

i just have some PSU that came with my case. Here

uh oh.. I'd buy a new PSU if I were you. The corsair 450vx would get my recommendation if you can find one used: it powered my old rig with a gtx 260 core 216, phenom II 720, 2 hard drives, etc. all overclocked, absolutely fine.

Quote from topslop1 :

Tell me about it. Oh well, just because it's old doesn't mean its bad.

Well if I stop uploading pron through torrents I'm sure I have enough upload to host a server... something like 70-80k/s upload reliably through this line. That could support how many? I could do a dedicated on my computer since its overpowered (3.3ghz amd quad core) and then also run a seperate instance of LFS everytime I actually wanted to race.

Lmk your thoughts on starting up a dedicated on my home line..

Don't worry, he's already sold his soul to LTC

Quote from logitekg25 :

*starts knocking on skull hoping to find something*.........*starts to cry*

join OCN,all the info you need to know is somewhere on there

LFS Mass LAN party! lol

Quote from logitekg25 :

r u for serious? i am in mass! can you help me over-clock, and upgrade my graphics/video card? can you hook me up with some moniters too

I gotta pay for my monitors But overclocking is simple, anyone with a brain can do it ^-^

Quote from PLAYAPIMP :

Build me one

If you really want, lol. As long as you're in mass

Quote from shiny_red_cobra :

Fix the link and I'll tell you if it's good or not. But it seems that Newegg is having some problems of their own atm.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... spx?ItemList=Combo.259115

but no, it's not fine. You can get the i7 920 d0 for $199 + tax at any Microcenter. If you don't have one near you, get someone to ship one to you after you send them the $.

then get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16813128375

I'd say go AM3. Non-dead socket (775 is dead/dying), DDR3/2, competes with i5 for a fraction of the price. I got a used 790fx mobo for $65, a phenom II x2 550 for $75, and quality 4gb DDR2 for $40.

Use the money saved to get a better heatsink, either a Xigmatek s1283 or a coolermaster v8 would be my recommendations. Might want to get a better graphics card, too. Not sure what you're using.

edit: this should be fine if you want to buy new: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... spx?ItemList=Combo.250093.
I'd still recommend getting a 720 and a used 790fx motherboard, though.

edit again: theres a guy on OCN selling a 955 and ddr3, sold the mobo unfortunately. Link is here: http://www.overclock.net/sale/ ... fx-ddr3-toxic-4890-a.html

Last edited by MijnWraak, Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:23.

Just finished build today Here are some specs, I'll get some pictures up later.

Phenom II x2 550
Visiontek 4870 512mb
Jetway 790fx mobo (was $65 lol)
Coolermaster Scout Storm w/ 3 120mm Yate Loons High Speed
Coolermaster V8 w/ Yate (ocz freeze paste)
1TB WD Caviar Black
keyboard: Filco Cherry MX Blue mechanical keyboard
mouse: MS Sidewinder x5 / razer exactmat mousepad
monitor: Samsung 2233sw 1080p 21.5"
speakers: brother's Logitech Z4
and of course a heavily modified/Frankenstein g25

Quote from Bigbob1993 :

4 TheVeryEnd: so it happens some time after I start the game and begin the race.

It may be caused by the old drivers for my nVidia 8600 GT. I will try to download new drivers and i will write here if more bugs or "bugs" will appear

shadowww: temperatures are at normal as always...... i dont think its overheating

Clean your PC of any dust, especially in your 8600's heatsink. Remove the sticker, unscrew the heatsink and fan, disconnect the fan, clean out the heatsink with compressed air and cotton swabs, re-install and tell us if it still happens

Quote from hazaky :

I really dont think that 4890 should be clocked. 2 of them will play everything for u. Even here, i got a 4870 about half month/month ago and i can basically play GTA IV on max settings, Crysis and those games too. 4890 is sligty better and if u got 2 of them then u dont need gpu clocking - im pretty sure about that.

Are you talking about OVERclocking? It's a free performance boost, so there really isn't any downside beside a bit more heat.

Quote from battle :

@MijnWraak


I was going for a single 4890 for starters. But i am planning on putting in a second one after a while. So i already want my system to be able to handle it.

Yeah, the 790xt might be a better choice in mobo.

What memory would you recommend then?

Well i was trying to stay beneath the 1000euro's for this pc.

With the setup i posted above i'm at 926. So i've got some small room to play around. The mobo is only 30euro's more expensive so i'll survive that and the Cooler V8 is 17euro's more expensive.

Well the headset is already set. I really like that headset. Buddy of mine has the same one and i think it's great. I'm not willing to pay 100euro's for a headset either so.

The G.Skill Trident 2x2gb DDR3 is usually liked by those who buy it, but I'm not to keen on DDR3 memory. If I were you I'd just get an AM2+ board with good DDR2. But for future-proofing I can see your reasoning.

But yeah for the money, just grab a 750tx instead of a 650tx, and either some G.Skill Trident ddr3, or G.Skill Pi ddr3.

Quote from george_tsiros :

ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu..........!!!!!

no overclock is worth that!!!!!

Happened during a 50lap blackwood race :| I pushed my GPU oc too high without testing. sigh.

Well, you live and learn!

After doing all the things Jason said in the last post, if it still doesn't work call Logitech (best way of contacting them is by phone) and ask to troubleshoot (trust me, I asked straight away for an RMA since I already troubleshooted offline and the guy absolutely flipped about how people try to rip companies off, blah blah) and eventually try to get an RMA. Usually they'll want you to cut the cables OR just ship the shifter to them for proofz. After that, take apart your pedals and try to fix it

Quote from battle :

Hmm, so you would suggest a higher power supply?

And how high? Because about power supply i'm a total newb.

And i've found out that the CPU can only handle DDR2.

So i've decided to go for this CPU: AMD PHENOM II X4 955 BLACKED. AM3

That power supply would be fine if you weren't going for Crossfire, but since you are you should go with a 750tx. That'll be fine for you.

You might want to get a better heatsink than the Freezer. Depending on your budget you can go for a few things: top of the line - Prolimatech Megahalem with 4 fan clips and 2 120x38mm San Ace 101 fans in a push pull config.
Midrange - Coolermaster V8
Lower end (yet still much better than arctic cooling freezer) - Xigmatek HDT-s1283

You might want to look for some memory with lower CAS timings for better performance.

For the motherboard, go for the GA-MA790FXT-UD5p. That supports full 16x 16x crossfire and you won't be bottlenecked.

Regarding the headset, I tend to steer clear away from anything labeled "fatal1ty". Many people like the Sennsheiser 555 + clip-on mic but at $140 that might be out of your price range.

Everything else looks good though

edit: for now I'd advise against going Crossfire. At 1080 resolution, you won't need the extra horsepower for playing many games. I'd say still get the 750tx, get one 4890, and in the future if you're not getting enough frames per second, throw in another one.

And I'm not sure of the availability where you are, but have you thought about a different monitor? I'd go for a Samsung 2233SW for around the same price.

About how much you can get out of overclocking: quite a bit. The Phenom II's overclock very well and I'm sure you can get to 4.0 ghz with a Megahalem with the board I suggested. Overclocking the video card is really easy and usually very worth it, just make sure your overclocks are STABLE! Nothing worse than having your computer lock up during a 12h race.

Last edited by MijnWraak, Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:09.

Quote from NightShift :

Goes without saying. My point was actually a little different and a bit more articulated.

Just to clarify, 'safety reasons' translates to 'toy' to my ears. To some a wheel is only a toy, I perfectly understand this but..

...in the simracing community the G25 was the best wheel in the affordable range (that means, excluding the models from specialist manufacturers as Frex), today the G27 is probably not wearing that crown anymore

Capitalism at it's best. Nothing wrong with someone else having a better product for the money. It brings the price of future models of competing companies down (then again, the g27's MSRP is still $300. Stupidity on Logitech's part IMO)

Quote from Shotglass :

pretty huge improvment though considering both g25s i had (very briefly) could be heard from 2 blocks away

Then again, how much do they cost to be replaced? $5 at most? hmm, now I want to find some replacement helical gears for my g25 online...