Think this video shows pretty good that the standard cockpit view isn't that realistic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ;mode=related&search=

It isn't LFS, but it have the view at the same position.


Doesn't look right when he is steering his wheel and you can see the guy on the screen doing exactly the same. The view should have been right above the steeringwheel or something.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Not exactly forgot, I havnt been paid my wages again and having just been stung for car insurance i'm pretty much destitute until My Boss decides that i'm more important than his new front door.

I'll sort it out soon.

How much do you need?


edit: Can't wait for the CTRA servers, need some proper racing, looks like the cruise servers takes up all the drivers.

Quick thinking there to save the dog.

Voted "Yes, interested in a two class event (XFG/XRG + FXO,XRT,RB4,LX4)"


But LX4 isn't comparable to the TBO's, it would smoke them on a track like FE Gold, easy to drive, fast corners and acceleration. I think it can last longer too without refuel or change tyres.

Quote from nikka :

I wasn't sure what option to vote for before I heard about your PM. So now I voted for 2 just beacuse I found that PM extremely stupid.

The PM wasn't stupid, your reason for voting for option number 2 on the other hand, is stupid.

No doubt, B's fault.

lol, guess irony wasn't meant for internet forums.

Joke mate, joke.

Quote from Woz :

Then you need to LEARN TO READ WHAT IS SAID and not what you THINK IS SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me help you just a little and highlight this for you.

You don't need to get all fired up over a little question. I asked that because I wanted to know your thoughts, I don't know what you think. Right?
Don't need to flame me for that.

Quote from Woz :

When visible windscreens are implemented and damage allows them to break this sort of OPTION will probably become the NORM on many servers because people will want to know that other people do not select views that give them BIG advantages due to the fact they are outside the car or the car is hidden so they do not see the broken glass etc.

I agree, if I want to have my wheel up at the steering wheel I should be able to have it there, while someone else can have their settings further back in the car.

Quote from Woz :

While SOME here play LFS as they would any other game, more treat it as the SIM it is. This is why the hardcore sort of options are starting to come in. It means we can race knowing the only people that join the server are just as serious.

I'm not with this, do you mean that people that doesn't use cockpit view isn't "serious"? If so, thats bullshit.

My point on the other hand is that as long as you have your view INSIDE the car and on the DRIVERS side, that should be enough for the "hardcore" mode. Because what people think is realism is a subjective thing. What I think is realistic could be different from someone elses, (note that I'm not talking about wheel or chaseviews here)

Quote from danowat :

Have you ever heard the term you can't polish a turd?.

People are either quick or not, I will never be as fast as some drivers no matter how much pratice I get offline

I edited that for you.

"People are either quick or not, I will never be fast no matter how much pratice I get offline "

Quote from tristancliffe :

People are moaning about the fps hit of a cockpit, so I don't think the majority of people want more graphical toys that will further reduce it.

Its still optional, if their computers can't handle dx9 they can just turn the graphics down to todays standard.

hehe, fun. But it lagged a bit actually.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Turn off the game wheel then...

wow, why didn't I think of that?[/sarcasm]

My point is that I don't think its realistic to have the view on the screen in the exact same position as you have your eyes in your real car.
This is because the field of view is no way near to what it is in real life.

imo I think what is the standard cockpit view is very overrated by some people that wants the game to be as realistic as possible.

I want it to be realistic as well, but imo the default cockpit view isn't right. In a real car when you're driving, you're so focused on whats going on outside that you don't even notice whats incide the car (well, not in the same way).

When I'm driving in LFS I feel/think/whatever that my desk the monitor stands on is the dashboard in the car.

Last edited by MyBoss, Mon 9 Jul 2007, 21:29.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I can understand why you might like the t-cam view, and I have been known to drive from it. But the discussion ISN'T which view is nicer, but which view resemble real life the most, and hence should be considered the view for driving from.

At the moment it's CPV, and hopefully Scawen will make it CPV with 20cm of adjustment in the Y plane, and 10cm of adjustment in the Z plane (and perhaps 4 or 5 in the X plane).

Ha ha ha - X plane. Geddit?

I agree, but I don't think that having two steering wheels in front of me resembles real life in any way. The view on the screen should actually be between the steering wheel and the dashboard.
But anyway, I guess this "realistic" view is a subjective thing.
As long as everyone have their view inside their car and on the drivers side I don't really see why someone else should botter with my view.

Off Topic: Isn't you in DR Niko?

Quote from Renku :

That is exactly how I feel about this issue. LFS's default cockpit view doesn't come close to a real life equivalent. When you transfer LFS's default cockpit view to real life, it's like sitting on a back seat of an average family sedan with the front seat taken out. People hype it only because it's labeled "cockpit" view.

Feel the same way. Who drives with two wheels anyway? (Your desktop wheel, and the wheel on the screen).
Also. In real cars you can move your head to the side so you can see past the those posts that keep the roof up.

6/10

Nice car but not very original

Quote from tristancliffe :

My dad doesn't smoke, and apart from the odd schoolboy puff, never has. Yet he says he would support people's RIGHT to smoke as much as he could.

Well, what about mine rights? I don't want filthy smoke in my face. Its hard enough for me to stand around friends that smoke even outside. I surely don't want to go inside a pub where the whole house is filled with that s**t.

Quote from tristancliffe :

As it is, all the drunks and youths (and drunken youths) will all come outside to smoke, and that'll probably mean... more STREET FIGHTING!

It doesn't in Norway, and we are VIKINGS

Quote from danowat :

Well done on the win Ray, grats for all other drivers too, was a fun league .

Wish they was an "on demand" recording of it, would have liked to have seen what they said about me!!!!

Better to hear it than see it. lol ... no wait, now I'm confused. I need help :doctor:

Good to hear, can't wait

Quote from jamesrowe :

Well diesel don't now do they?

They do, just not as much They are much more powerful, doesn't need as much maintenance and the driver doesn't need to be an athlete to keep it moving. :haha:


Some more. lol

http://www.jeffiscool.com/pictures/IndiaTrain.jpg
http://users.static.freeblog.h ... rs/files/IndianTrain2.jpg

Quote from Becky Rose :

The vans progress was arrested by the flood.

lol

Blah, the eurostar one got a booring look, like every supertrain has.

The steam train is sexy though, too bad they pollute so god damn much.

Quote from DaveWS :

Which means they can't be bothered to put in their own effort to make decent cars / tracks / sounds, when it is possible to do so.

Well, not to be harsh, but there are many addons/mods (what you call it) to LFS to, wasn't it your sounds that Scawen put into the V patch?
And that guy that made hi res textures for the tracks.

Something can be done better, but it doesen't mean that the devs are useless

Quote from DejaVu :

why do they all look fake?

Doesn't look fake to me. Good photos.

Here are some more though.


Got them from www.railpictures.net