And letting use them cheat online with other people? Mhh ...
Permanent banning is a too severe punishement. A temporary banning (one month per example) will be enough. Then if he try to cheat again or if he's spotted again then permanent ban is the solution.

Quote from SamH :

Oh how wrong can one be?

A point was made to me a few days ago which I agree with, and which I think is absolutely fundamental to the whole sim racing genre. LFS is real sim racing, while everything else is an imitation. Sounds bold doesn't it?

In LFS, the cars and tracks are not real. They are LFS cars. They are not imitations of BMWs against imitations of Lotus, against imitations of Ferarri. They are 100% simulations in their own right, independently of any real life counterpart.

This means the LFS sim drivers are drivers in their own right. They are not pretending to be a real-life driver in a virtual version of a real-life car. LFS is not an imitation. Every other sim out there is exactly that. And because every other sim out there imitates a real-life car and series, it cannot be considered sim racing for the sake of sim racing in its own right, and as itself, an entity.

LFS is the only commercially available sim racing environment which is true sim racing, in its purest form.

You should contact the dictionnary editor because it's exactly that

Sim Racing Tonight is a good idea, now lets see if this will continue. I wish you good luck for the future DarinSRT.

Self promotion is not that bad. There is no reason why your post should have been deleted. I'm glad to see that there is french league since i'm speaking le francais , i may give a try to this combo and if i'm competitive enough I'll join you !

Quote from ColeusRattus :

I think it has been suggested sometimes now, but as I am too lazy to search, someone else will have to dig out the old threads.

Having said that, I agree.

I guess it's not that hard to do either, depending on how in depth you'll want to go. Basically, you'd need one "dirt" texture layer that becomes gradually visible.
If Scawen's feeling like a bit of additional work, he could even add a different layer for every underground, like grass or mud.

The only problem would be that it would further increase the graphical load, as every carr would at least need one extra full size texture.
I guess that could be prevented with shaders though, allthough I don't know how much the engine would have to be modified for that.

Digging out the old thread? May be this one ?

It's fun to see people who are not able to understand these simples words: "READ before making a new thread" ...
Search more than 2 seconds next time (hopping there will no next time)

Quote from DrDrug :

What if we could have some bling bling Cr-Mo Wheels and a PS3 with DVD-Player and a 20" LCD so I can watch TV during the race huh?

And what if you could get a brain ?
What's the point to bump a such useless thread by a such useless comment ?

Maybe we should also be abel to drop some oil or nails to explode they tire. Or a massive orbital ion cannon remotly controled in the car should clear your path

Quote from Lible :

It has a wrong aspect ratio and it's very low-quality (nothing to do about the second, but the first problem is repaiarable.

To summarize: It's crap

Good job, i'm using this library since 0.14b and the improvements are great. But sadly i can't test the relay stuff but i'm sure its well implemented !

Continue like that !

Quote from [106]dan :

i got a dxxa steering wheel but i dont have a game port so i have to get an adaptor from game port to usb and the steering wheel cost €50

Bad idea, you should buy a cheap sound car with game port. I bought a Trust one only to get the gameport, it costed me 7€~10€, can't remember but not more. Can be usefull if you have other device using gameport.
The problem with adaptator is that it doesn't work well. Some of my friend had a bad experience with an expensive one

4 month later I found a way. It's rather complicated but maybe it can help some of yours.

I bought a server in another country. I put gentoo on it. I made a permanent connection between my network and the server wich give me an internet connection (with vpn). My computer is directly linked to my new server so evrything goes throw it. I also used Nat to be able to acces all i want and to be accesible but I think it's maybe not needed, some test will reveal it. I just unlocked the ports (wich i though was used by lfs) on my gentoo server but .. it doesnt worked So i just open a large range of ports on my server and it worked. Is not maximum of security but ... i dont care. LFS need some concesions.

Here is a little schem (simplified) to help the understanding:


[ My computer ] --(direct link)--> [ Gateway ] --( vpn )--> [ New Server ] ----> Internet

So everything is encapsuled into the vpn connection (wich was made default in routing table only for my computer using submasking network to give me my network into the network). LFS react as i was directly connected to internet.

I also must pass throw a filter but the filter can't handle an encrypted vpn so it just let it pass (off course i used an open port). I was glad to f**k this filter

So here it is, i can play all the online games i want. Offcourse it's working under windows but my lfs under linux work too. Its doesn't matter wich Os is running and it's a good point. I think i've told evrything. If help needed just ask but i thnk there is not much people in my case

Quote from SamH :

If someone leaves the pit without putting on their helmet, they get spectated immediately, with a short explanation of what's wrong.

A good thing. Adding more reality to this league and to the game. Again a good work as usualy

Quote from Qvarnis :

Couldn`t keep my hands off from the wheel for long Friend asked me if I wanted to come speeddrifting with him, couldn`t resist. Found out that he and I are about the same good. Was so much fun to actually race around blackwood with him, didn`t last long till bunch of newbie drifters came to the server and blocked the roads totally. Even the admin didn`t care eventhough he was up there drifting too.

I need that damn S2 NOW If I had the money for it, I think it would go for a new wheel & pedals set My gas pedal doesn`t work correctly, feels like fuelcutting.

I broke my wheel before buying my S2 license. I had choice between a wheel or s2. Now i'm playing with mouse & pedals and it's prety nice. I just had to drive during one week to enjoy this new setup. After that: only fun & joy !! I never regretted this choice. Even if you must play with your keyboard, driving in S2 is miles away the demo server.

In conclusion: Buy S2 (but i think that you already know that )

I didn't find it anywhere so i thought it was a good place to post it.
Lot of people are asking for the fake lights so here it is, some fake light not done by myself but still usefull!
If anybody know who did them just tell me i'll credits them

Hope you like them!

I made the french language file. I think i didn't made mistake in the conversion.

I had some trouble with the special characters like é,è,à,° but i converted the file format into ANSI and the troubles went away.

As mentioned by Pasci, there is an annoying bug with the zoom out with mouse. It jump from 100% (or lower) to 3% wich is realy annoying. By the way, why do you allow such a low view %? Who use 3% to see a layout ? I think it should allow 50% but not less.

Good update, this program become more and more interesting and the handeling is better. Keep working !!

Here is my BF1. I don't like it much since I hate the bf1

The screenie

@cayenne 49: Press space bar in LFS viewer in order to make the menu disapear (color selection, ...)

Quote from The Very End :

Why people complain about the wind, it`s a great feature, and it`s great implented in LFS, it actual has a lot to say since the cars are very affected by this.

But anyway, as I said, and you said, it would be great with more objects on the track, and oilspills shouldn`t happend or occure before a car is damaged

Just imagine a race on South City, first lap, first crash at the well known chicane wich is hard enough without oilspills. Crash mean oilsplitt ... 10 laps later, we can build an oil derick

This thread can may be help you for drawing racing lines: Here !

It's not totaly useless but not as usefull as we would though. Seeing a map and a "real" track is a complet diffrent story héhé =)

I'm joining the competition, I try to.

Would be great if we can have a vectorial edition of the Inferno's logo. It's quiet low res and hard to use

One other thing: Does somebody know the good ratio of height/wheight to use for the FZ5? 2048*2048 is not real good, the sideways decal are a bit scaled when rendering ingame.


Edit: Some work done, check out There (bottome of the page) !

Last edited by shadow2kx, Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:44.

Quote from richy :

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wwhEi2fR6Wc

Check out this vid of the superprix. a voice over with speeds reached, nice.

I like the little comment when he can't overtake the dark blue car
"He decided to speed up and messed up my laptime, Thanks You very much !!" (or something quiet similar).

He absolut know each little bump, great driver for shure !

I just saw this video and i directly thougth: Damn this is South City !!! Some part of the track look realy similar to the lfs's South City track don't you think ?? It's seems as tricky as in lfs (Wonderfull overtaking by the way)

Another example, look at the hairpin, realy similar! Who said we don't have real tracks ingame ?

Last edited by shadow2kx, Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:04.

Quote from Alkanphel :

Whew, another Singaporean. They become pretty hard to find these days.
No need to slam the throttle at the start, the wheelspin will slow you down massively. Partial throttle is all u need. =)

I've been practicing during 1 hour and I must admit that you are right. I'm currently instaling lfs lapper to see if my 0-100km is imporving. Partial throttle is the good way !! Thanks

I think we're going a little off topic there

Anyway, I'm trying to improve my start too with the rear wheel drive's cars. So here is my question: Are you trying to avoid wheel spin at start? Are you going full throtle just waiting for the wheels to get grip again? Or are you just using a certain among of throtle?
For the no turbo cars (the xrg) there is no need to wind up the turbo so I was thinking that using 3/4 of the throtle at start can gave me a little more grip but it seems slower and since there is not much power some time the rpm just drop to near 0rpm.

In comparaison to other skilled drivers my starts are realy slow I can see the same car as mine going well ahead of me just 10-20 meters after the start position. It drive me a little crazy because I just can't figure how to get a good start

I realy need help

Note: I'm using a mouse and pedals but I don't have a cluch so I think there is maybe nothing else to do than just flat the throtle?

Quote from Gunn :

I think that this statement is ridiculous. What sim have you been playing? Not LFS surely.

Anyway this discussion is ridiculous. Remove all the curves and we get a nascar race wich is kind stupid.

Maybe an s2000?