Quote from thisnameistaken :

Is there any actual truth taught during that education program?

in a country where preaching abstinence is considered sex education? unlikely

Quote from BlueFlame :

No never.

well that explains a whole lot then

used cars are retardedly cheap in the uk
no idea why but in any normal country you can expect to pay at least twice or 3 times as much

Quote from Matrixi :

I know it's hard, but you should try cheering up mate, lose some of that bitterness and try to experience the clearly unknown world of humor a bit, even if it's a tough challenge.

im perfectly fine thank you for your heartfelt concern
now sod off and go take your utter twatyness and try to annoy someone who cares for your style of "discussion"

Quote from MadCatX :

Ad 1) That is a comparison of Intel's brand new design against at least a year old ARM A9 which has some memory bandwidth issues.

as i mentioned things might change once a15 drops
that said apparently a15 will be slightly faster than qualcoms krait (3.5 mips/mhz vs 3.3 on krait)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/ ... sm8960-krait-architecture
and krait loosk to be a bit slower in both sunspider and browsermark
http://www.anandtech.com/show/ ... 0-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
so id assume a15 to stack up fairly even to atom

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Am I correct assuming that a SunSpider and BrowserMark tests don't really benefit from multithreading, so having a faster single core CPU with HT is actually more efficient than a slower quad core?

i havent got the faintest idea tbh

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Ad 3) Power consumption at low load is no the best way to compare the energy efficiency of a CPU. Seeing how would an iPad 3 compare to that 530U3B during Full HD video playback would be more interesting.

simulated web usage is a relevant test for what youll be doing most of the time with a tablet or an ultraportable
watching fullhd on either a 10" or a 13" screen is rather pointless

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Nobody disputes that x86 CPUs will stay on top for a while - at least performance wise - but the pace at which ARM is catching up is quite fast.

i think youve got it the wrong way round and intel is catching up in the world of power efficient cpus
the thing is intel has been far ahead in process technology for quite a while now so even if the myth that x86 is oh so power hungry were true whatever deficency it may have would be made up for by producing at a node that is both more advanced and more mature

also lets look at some history:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp- ... 012/01/Intel-Overtake.jpg
guess which market theyre aiming to achieve domination in this decade

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You also have to consider the compilers which probably still generate more efficient x86 that ARM machine code. (And I'm sure Intel has put some serious work into tweaking stuff to make this reference demo design look as awesome as possible)

that may be the case (but then whos fault would that be?)
also arm as an architechture is about as old as x86 is so if they still havent figured out how to write compilers for it i wouldnt hold my breath for them ever doing so

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An interesting A9 vs. N270 benchmark can be found here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p ... ntu_1204_armfeb&num=6

keep in mind though that that is a current dual core arm vs a ~3 year old single core atom and 2 other cpus that are pentium 3 based an architecture that went out of production 10 years ago

Quote from thisnameistaken :

The fact that it doesn't exist at the moment sort-of makes my point though doesn't it.

to a certain extent yes
although i still dont think that tablets as a whole provide any useful functionality anyway

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I just don't understand why people who don't buy Apple products are so quick to crap all over them despite apparently knowing nothing about them.

i think first of all youre quite mistaken in the experience of many who dont like apple for their products (disliking them for their business behaviour is kind of a given for any sane human being) have had with their products and secondly it is often times a reaction to an even greater degree of daftness from the other side as i shall now demonstrate

Quote from Matrixi :

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/18374726.jpg

An x86 instruction set for tablets can only mean one thing.. catastrophic power consumption. I estimate 2-3 hours worth of battery life, unless the device is 5cm thick.

my what a cute little pile of uninformed rubbish you made there and to top it all off with a meme picture the sure sign of a forum poster whos never had an original thought in his life is quite a nice touch that may have gone unnoticed had it been aimed at a less discerning reader than meself

with that out of the way lets talk facts
1) intel has already shown its own x86 soc for smartphones and despite being a single core part it completely clobbers the current a9 based dual cores found in todays phones while using the same sort of power (granted the consumption figures apparently come from intel but still)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/ ... 60-arrive-for-smartphones
the field may change once a15 based cores hit the market but that remains to be seen
2) the x86 decode unit (ie the bit that actually makes an x86 core architecturally different from any other chip on the market today) is absolutely tiny these days
heres a floor plan from an amd bobcat (their atom competitor essentially so the actual computing part of the core is comparably small to full scale x86 parts)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images ... obcat-core-floor-plan.jpg
the x86 decoder takes up maybe 3% or so of the die area
and once you factor in that the cores only make up maybe 50% or the die area of a current x86 chip the area becomes even smaller
http://images.bit-tech.net/con ... /sandy-bridge-die-map.jpg
3) as soon as you start building arm cpus that have decent computational power they lose a lot of their edge fairly quickly
the current ipad has a notebook size battery at ~42Wh and with that it will give you a websurfing lifetime of ~9.5 hours
http://www.notebookcheck.net/R ... 12-4G-Tablet.71925.0.html
curiously enough there is a current sandy bridge (which runs circles round any arm core currently available) based ultrabook from samsung with a very similar sized battery at ~45Wh that achieves a web battery life of ~6.5h
http://www.notebookcheck.net/R ... 1DE-Notebook.71720.0.html
so way way way faster machine yet still achieves over 2/3rds of the battery life of the oh so amazingly power saving arm designs
http://www.notebookcheck.net/R ... 1DE-Notebook.71720.0.html

Quote from thisnameistaken :

What tablet is available that offers a better range of software than the iPad?

lets postpone this discussion until x86 win8 tables are out shall we?

if its suported in 7 presumably it will work fine in 8 as well
so you could try with a free legal version of windows

chronicle:
pretty damn good certainly a little different and easily the best dragonball live action movie filmed thus far

juan of the dead:
shame it looked so cheap in places but it made up for it by being constantly hilarious

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Quote from hrtburnout :

The latest girl I was with, seperated ways with me after only six weeks.

here we go again...
remind me to not click on any of your emo youtube links the next couple of days ^^

Quote from PMD9409 :

So in one case, you think of it as revenge wrecking and is okay. The other case, it is foul and wrong?

its very very simple really
senna wrecked a french driver schumacher wrecked a british driver

Quote from BlueFlame :

definately

well theres one way to prove my point

Quote from BlueFlame :

I was going to post the same thing. When my younger sister was 10 she spoke and wrote better English than most.

so thats where all the intelligence in your family ended up

Quote from -NightFly- :

I think i need to give a second go on Drive sometime soon, started it yesterday, fell asleep after first 10 minutes . I blame a late hour on that, though the main character seemed to be somewhat slow minded, took forever to hear him replying to someone, it pissed me off.

if that pisses you off dont bother watching it again the entire movie could be cut down to a 10 minute short if you took out all the pauses in conversations

Quote from de Souza :

That's actually a good thing (not having the same opinions).

dont ever mention that in a thread with boris around

Quote from de Souza :

This time around was the probably recommended before Dr. Strangelove.

best movie ever
"alright youre sorrier than i am"

Quote from RiseAgainstMe! :

Then you just have to go inside and pay there... not that big of a deal really.

at which point you have to somehow magically know how much petrol youll need

Quote from thisnameistaken :

And y'know my dog seems to be pretty happy, but by human standards he's also pretty stupid.

thats the best blueflame analogy ive ever read
well played sir

Quote from RiseAgainstMe! :

Card:
Automatically charges how much you pump.

unless youre nto from the us and get stumped by the stupid thing asking you for you ****ing zip code
honestly the way us petrol stations work is just retarded beyond what words can describe

http://www.southparkstudios.co ... urity-camera#tab=featured
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

relevant
http://www.escapistmagazine.co ... arves-Dont-Define-Fantasy

hm have you guys ever considered the possibilty that hamilton gets paid by ferrari to crash into massa every race so they can avoid another "fernando is faster than you" cluster**** while achieving the same effect?

Quote from logitekg25 :

http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o618/tortoracer/DSCF0174.jpg

the girls you pick up in dark street corners and transport out into the woods sure will appreciate all the work you put into making the audio in your boot as good as humanly possible

Quote from flymike91 :

Ask a Christian in Egypt right now if their new government sees a place for them in the future of the country.

how do you reckon a palestinian muslim living in israel would respond to that question?

Quote from thisnameistaken :

It's often difficult to tell who are the native English speakers here. Take that statement any way you like.

its pretty easy to tell with those that cant spell tyre or colour correctly

Quote from FPVaaron :

I couldn't help notice that you're German.

I couldnt help notice that you probably got your preconceived notions about german sense of humour from hearsay only

Quote from DeKo :

I wouldn't trust the Israelis as far as I could throw them, they shouldn't have nukes either

ah but they dont have any or admit to having them anyway
its a very strangelove approach to deterrence

Quote from Dennis93 :

OMFG NUCLEAR WARNING, KILL YOURSELFS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!


see what i did there?

demonstrated that you have no sense of humour?

Quote from Becky Rose :

achieved the ultimate climax of their achievement.

the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club?

Quote from PMD9409 :

You need to make a replica of the small one to match your real one!

might that be what she said?