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Shotglass
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just look around and see what hatcback everyone else drives and get one of those
round here that would be a golf... reliable theres tons of them so theyre cheap and used replacements parts are dirt cheap as well
Shotglass
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Quote from xaotik :Huh, I knew I had read that one before.

http://www.lfsforum.net/attach ... mp;stc=1&d=1297840950

lol good one
ive missed your humour where the hell have you been mate?
Shotglass
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have you by an chance come across any zacate truecrypt benchmarks?
Shotglass
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Quote from Matrixi :"Piracy continues to damage the PC packaged goods market and the PC development community."

Am I the only one here who found that line pretty hilarious, relating to this leak?

not at all
they pretty much deserve ending up with a game that everyone pirates after a line as stupid as that

Quote from Crashgate3 :Take it to PMs ladies, YOU ARE BORING.

shouldnt that "s" be capitalized as well?
Shotglass
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Quote from Flame CZE :Is there any chance to buy it without having to register at Paypal?

hm is there any way to buy it without giving money to kunos ?
Shotglass
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Quote from (SaM) :What I have right now is 2 WD Raptors in RAID 0 with the same chipset. Best I got so far is 140MB/s which was already a noticeable difference to my Samsung storage drive. I can't imagine how sick 2 SSDs in RAID 0 is going to be.

again sequential speeds are utterly irrelevant for 99% of all usual pc work
random is where its at and a good ssd will have a random read of about 60mb/sec while a hdd is somewhere down at around 0.1mb/sec
Shotglass
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those benches dont really mean aynthing though
the only number that has any bearing on real world performance is random read and write
and yeah ssds are arsume
Shotglass
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :No, I'm waiting to see what Zacate stuff comes out in the next few weeks.

whatevers gonna come out other than price i dont see how anything could be much better than the pasive asus mobo which has both extrernal and usb3 connectors
i fail to see anything wrong with it... other than the lack of a display port
Shotglass
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Quote from E.Reiljans :Your case calls for Dunning–Kruger effect.

you state something that is flat out wrong then try to point an accusing finger at me and eventually dont even have the balls to properly tell me you think im talking shit?
im done with this

Quote from DEVIL 007 :Then the X4 635 would be around same if it would be on mobo with discrete graphic. I posted link with i3 and X4 635 was atound the same at idle.

in your link the difference was about 10w at idle most of which would be the cpu
put in perspective with a build that consumes some 15-20w of power that difference is a 50%+ increase in energy consumption
Shotglass
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of course they differ quite a lot
however that doesnt change the simple fact that both are mpeg4
Shotglass
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right youve been part of the development of a codec apparently without ever reading the mpeg4 standard its based on... very believeable
Shotglass
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Quote from E.Reiljans :Apparently MPEG-4 is MPEG-4, and H.264 is MPEG-4 AVC, and it has nothing to do in common with "just" MPEG-4.

your grasp on how standards work is shockingly bad
Shotglass
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Quote from DEVIL 007 :I really dont know what that guy had to make to his system but what he shows there as 20 W is hard to trust.

it is trustworths and that simply is the power consumption of a clarkdale build with a good h55 mobo without discrete graphics on it

Quote :He had to underclock and undervolt system a lot

theres no underlocking or undervolting other than what intel cpus do by themself

Quote :wait a couple of days for that official AMD APU platform reviews. It should pop-up in few days so I would make the decision after that.

uhm anandtech (pretty much the only tech site worth reading) already did a full review of brazos

Quote from E.Reiljans :And, talking about "increasingly popular".. what the **** are you smoking?!

youve been living under a rock apparently

Quote :Only popular codecs for HD content are H.264 and SMPTE VC-1, and MPEG-4 is way less efficient than them both -> it WON'T become more popular.

h264 is mpeg4
Shotglass
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :What do you know about this Intel 24fps bug?

you mean the one about them not being able to run at 23.976hz? well yeah that is a bit of an issue
that said it depends rather a lot on your setup eg does your tv and or projector support 23.976hz? does it actually support it properly instead of merely accepting the input and running the lcd at 60hz regardless

and then theres the issue of files you watch on it
im not aware of any player that automatically adjusts the graphics card according to the file thats being played back (although there might of course be one that does) and i peronsally would not bother with manually adjusting the refresh rate every time i open up a different video
most movies are shot in 23.976 but eg top gear is 25fps and i have a whole bunch of other files that run at refresh rates other than that

and on top of all that my eyes dont register minor frame rate sync issues all that much
seeing as youre american and probably used to the horrid 3:2 pulldown non stuttering pans might look wrong to your eyes anyway
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Shotglass
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Quote from Krayy :Good point. I guess what I'm really trying to find out is how much peripheral vision you can get with a 16:9 vs what you would get with a 16:10. My current monitor runs at 1680x1050 and it's big enough, I just can't see enough out of the sides. If only I had enough space for a triple head setup.

just use a whole bunch of "virtual" monitors to create an approximated cylindrical projection on your one screen
Shotglass
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power consumption mostly
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901/15
the intel solution is 32nm the amd one 45 so you have a fundamental advantage in terms of power
keep in mind that those figures are kinda on the high end of the spectrum with clarkdale builds that are well thought out you commonly see idle consumption of about 20w and down as low as about 15
http://www.computerbase.de/forum/showthread.php?t=685231

also my personal choice when it comes to clarkdale would be an i5 since i have all of my drives crypted these days and the aes acceleration makes a huge difference in terms of cpu load and thus ultimately power (although i have to admit its a ridiculous choice considering the lowest 2nd gen core-i with aes-ni costs the same and has 2 more cores... which coincidentally is the reason why a clarkdale system isnt already in my posession)

also id like to point out that im currently using an athlon x2 (soon to be replaced by a second gen cor i once intel gets their chipsets sorted out) and in terms of low power cheap htpcs id currently choose amds fusion over atom so its not like im fanboying
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Shotglass
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Quote from DEVIL 007 :You trying to teach me like a small kid

i kinda have to since:

Quote :Again...with GPU accelaration and I am not talking about video decoding engine you are more flexible nowdays. The GPU in AMD APU has enough power to accelarate even some new format.

theres a reason gpus use dedicated hardware for video decoding and its because low end gpu just arent powerful enough for opencl decoding
low end ati gpus dont even have the shader performance to do vector adaptive deinterlacing and thats just one step in video decoding

Quote :I guess the heatsink on the i7 CPU was quite big

sure it was but thats a cpu with 3 times the cores that dwb wants to buy and each of them runs at a higher base clock
Shotglass
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Quote from DEVIL 007 :With GPU accelaration nowdays I dont think any new format matter much. Look at flash accelaration.

flash isnt a new format its just h264 in a container

Quote :None of graphic cards have been developed in mind with that yet it working

yes they have

Quote :I really would not be worried about that and by the time any new format will pop-up both machine will be obsolate.

a lot of gpus cant accelerate xvid which is an increasingly popular format for 720p and 1080p
this is certainly true for ion and afaik every nvidia card out there
im not sure atm if its also true for fusion (iirc the 6 series ati cards do supportaccelerated divx decoding but im not sure if that decoding pipeline is part of brazos or not)

Quote :However Intel is very known for very bad driver support for any of integrated graphic cards. That`s fact unfortunately.

that is just not true particularly when it comes to linux where ati has to my knowledge been the worst while intel has been the best overall (although im not sure what the current status of the formerly broken clarkdale gpu drivers is)

Quote :I really like about the AMD solution the fanless option.

sure but since a friend recently showed me that his air cooled hexacore i7 rig is for all intents and purposes inaudible from as little as about a metre away i dont consider this a huge problem for pretty much any htpc setup especially when you use it with a tv and not a projector and even then the projector is most likely gonna be louder
Shotglass
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yes maybe but then down the road youll eventually be stuck with not being able to decode certain formats that arent supported by the gpu which an i3 will happily do in software without breaking a sweat

building a htpc is very much a matter of preference and philisophy putting you either on the high end dual core intel side of the spectrum or the atom/fusion end of it
power consumption wise the difference is pretty much negligible as long as youre using it just as a htpc
although personally i would have chosen uatx with upgradeability in mind
Shotglass
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Quote from DEVIL 007 :Is not the purpose of HTPC to be queit. How you want to make it with such a CPU which consume 73W and discrete graphic you meantiod which wont be queit neither.

the whole system without a graphics card will consume no more than ~20w at idle and 60 tops during heavy work
Shotglass
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sure they do but theres more to a htpc gpu than just can it use dxva smoothly
theres stuff like support for 24p hdmi1.4a derinterlacing truehd-bitstreaming etc
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