Quote from Whiskey :

That's really low fps, even for a normal screen. I guess you could get much better experience if you manage to get them higher.

The video itself reports to be 60 fps, but to be honest I got pretty uncomfortable watching it, it's not smooth at all.

It's not smooth only at the beginning. Later on it gets better.

It's pretty hilarious (6:30) that you can just get out of the car and walk around it. I don't have a VR set and I just wonder - how many other racing sims allow you to do that?

I believe you guys missed the point of Bose321's comment. I think it was a sarcastic comment directed towards cargame.nl

Quote from RC-Maus :

Take for example wind mills "so called clean engergy" But nobody talks about the toxic greenhouse gas FS6 thats leaking. (that gas isn't allowed in tennis bals anymore). Anyway windmills can't deliver enough energy and isn't that reliable. Wonder who can pay future energy bills to pay for all those windmills. Think we better plant some trees and keep energy on coal or nuclear as long as we need to. Till we find better solutions.

I know CO2 is greenhouse gas but from all gases thats 0,04% mostly 0,038 prodused by nature. Nature and our crops needs CO2.
I simply can't understand how thats a problem.

I see you're going back to planting trees and burning coal. I'll try to explain again why burning coal and other fossil fuels is bad and planting trees is very temporary. It's a copy of my previous message. I'm a chemist myself so if you don't understand something just ask.

A healthy forest absorbs CO2 and stores it in itself. Even if we don't cut it and let it grow till it dies, after its' death the microorganisms will most likely digest it and transform it into CO2 so the end result of burning it and letting it grow --> die --> rot is nearly the same. It gets transformed into CO2 and then some time later goes back to being tree again (cellulose and what not, basically some form of hydrocarbon). Because of this, there is a cycle so the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere stays stable.

Now lets think about fossil fuels. The carbon that is in fossil fuels is deep underground. After 100s, 1000s and so on years it will still be underground so the amount of carbon in the atmosphere is not influenced by fossil fuels. Now when we start digging it up and burning, the carbon that was supposed to be deep underground, is being released into the atmosphere and it enters the cycle mentioned above. As it can't go back underground (over a short period of time, not talking about millions of years), it stays in the atmosphere and thus the amount of CO2 increases. As CO2 increases, the earth gets hotter because CO2 absorbs some IR radiation that would otherwise escape to space.

E: Regarding the "small" ammount of CO2 (~0.04%) - it might seem small but it is approx. 30% more than it was in pre-industrial times. Also, even if the increase is small, on a global scale it does make a difference.

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Oh yes what a friendly community!.. Well either way, what you're asking for needs unreasonably large effort so not an option right now and in the future. Way too many other priorities.

Quote from RC-Maus :

@sobis In my eyes healhty forest absorb CO2 so why cut them for biomass.

Yes you are correct. A healthy forest absorbs CO2 and stores it in itself. Even if we don't cut it and let it grow till it dies, after its' death the microorganisms will most likely digest it and transform it into CO2 so the end result of burning it and letting it grow --> die --> rot is nearly the same. It gets transformed into CO2 and then some time later goes back to being tree again (cellulose and what not, basically some form of hydrocarbon). Because of this, there is a cycle so the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere stays stable.

Now lets think about fossil fuels. The carbon that is in fossil fuels is deep underground. After 100s, 1000s and so on years it will still be underground so the amount of carbon in the atmosphere is not influenced by fossil fuels. Now when we start digging it up and burning, the carbon that was supposed to be deep underground, is being released into the atmosphere and it enters the cycle mentioned above. As it can't go back underground (over a short period of time, not talking about millions of years), it stays in the atmosphere and thus the amount of CO2 increases. As CO2 increases, the earth gets hotter because CO2 absorbs some IR radiation that would otherwise escape to space.

Or a mod could transfer environmental messages to a separate thread? It is an interesting topic.

Quote from RC-Maus :

I agree on most with u Scawen. But also there are also many contradictions. For example burning biomass "wood" is gets subsidy for burning wood producing energy. That while burning wood causes twice as much CO2 then burning coal. In NL we cut % more trees then in amazone.

I just don't believe the CO2 story from IPCC.
And I believe we should say goodbye to economic's based on growth.

The difference in burning biomass in burning coal/oil/gas is huge. When we burn biomass, it's a cycle: carbon from biomass goes to atmosphere in the form of CO2 and then gets absorbed back to biomass. Carbon from fossil fuel does NOT go in a cycle. The carbon that is buried deep underground should stay there but we are digging it up and putting it in the atmosphere! That is the problem - if we were burning biomass only, the net carbon wouldn't increase as much. Now that we are burning lots of fossil fuels, we are increasing the overall quantity of carbon, including CO2, in the surface and that is a problem.
CO2 absorbs a bit of infra-red spectra and that's why instead of earth emitting heat into space, some of it gets trapped.
If you doubt something else about this, feel free to ask.

The poll is quite pointless so I see no reason making a sane decision

Well Scawen has stated that these graphical changes are made on the dev version with the new physics. I don't know if that statement still stands but if it does, these graphical changes will be served with the new tyre physics. I also hope that Scawen will not need to develop these changes on our version separately.

Quote from Mikus1212 :

I hope they wont destroy the flow of the fern bay layouts.

you can't destroy the flow - you can only change it. Change is inevitable. The only way of destroying the flow is deleting the track altogether.

As always - thank you Rony for organising! This was a fun series and I'm also happy that it was on Sunday evenings when I could attend without problems . Waiting for the next season!

Rony the slicks on your end don't have the grooves! I say hax!

Hmm it might not be that easy? Ambient temperature - sure but we also have to take into account different surface temperatures at different places

We'll be waiting, stay well!

Oh no tomorrow I won't be able to come! :c Sunday evening maybe?

Quote from derinus :

huge appologizes to Sobis and GT4 that i wildly overtook under sc . I was even not understanding why they were horning at me .the only explanation i can give is that i was not paying attention what so ever to what was written in the chat window .......so I had no idea that the safety car was on track till I joined the cue .I have a lot to learn and I ll try to improve !!sorry again for the frustration i may have sprayed

No hard feelings from me, stuff happens and in the end I couldn't finish either way.

Same here!

Seeing as this league section discussion is getting some pace, I think there needs to be a separate thread

Hey could you add LRL to league section?

You should add this to league section

Quote from Excellent15 :

Lmao I guess Im late for this.

No you can still register and race. Join and give some challenge to the leaders seeing how United dominated the last round

Yeah I hope we get a report this month as well. Even if it's nothing major, the monthly reports still boost the mood nicely

I see you don't have plans to move the test 1 week later? I'd love to participate if it were happening next week just like a few others I believe .

Quote from Eclipsed :

After one round being complete,there is still a theoretical chance of any new joiner taking the main championship with excellent performance without any outside help or coincidents.

Is this an invitation for Vytas?

Consider pushing the test date 1 week? I believe I should be available next Saturday.