You know, I just listen to what is playing on the local Kiss 106.1 FM or Cube 93.3 radio station...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... MNGWo&feature=related

(Yes, I love I'm Your's by Jason Mraz and I know the words to it)

If you do that as much as possible, and you go uphill on a first gear going so low that the engine might knock, you might be able to boost that average mpg really high.

Okay, well, I got the average mpg up to 38 mpg on the Volvo.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well saying you can get 100mpg when you're going down hill with the clutch disengaged isn't really telling the truth is it? It's not over a set distance or "to and from" journey so therefore just irrelevant statistics.

Oh, btw, the S60 is automatic... (I never knew they made a manual S60..)

Quote from BlueFlame :

And that S60 is diesel?

Nope, Just coasting down a street in neutral or going down a hill...

Quote from danowat :

Because I am a realist

Woah! Be careful with that word!

You just called me a delusional retard.

You can hypermile with any car if you drive, you will just be very dangerous to other drivers, and would annoy the hell out of everyone.

It is a ton, and with hypermiling... yeah...

Hell, I can squeeze 100 mpg out of my mom's Volvo S60... for a few moments (according to the gauge...)

Then when I go crazy with the throttle, it drops to single digit MPGs...

W00t, The Roots is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqi5P4gAvSY

Quote from pb32000 :

That's a good point Dajmin. It's also worth nothing that some companies will give you a discount for being part of a members club.

I know some people get discounts for being in the Ford RS owners club, I guess it shows you care about your care and aren't likely to smash it up given the first opportunity.

Similarly the insurance on my dads kit car is very low, presumably because they know it takes 12 months to build or something, and that you aren't going to drive like an idiot potentially wrecking all that work.

So... if I build a 400 bhp drift Silvia, would I have low insurance rates?

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTCplGHGEWs -drool-

Quote from pb32000 :

Drums on the rear aren't necessarily a big problem, depends how much you use them. For track use then no, but for road use you probably won't have big overheating issues.

edit: Yer I'd only have the Lotus as I would keep the Fiesta, no point selling it really, just drive it until for as long as possible I think. The Lotus is going to require of LOT of saving, but I'd be getting an S1 as there's no way I can afford an S2. But still, plenty fun enough I'm sure

I am doing AutoX locally.

And I can't have multiple cars, as I am going to be moving out...

Good luck with saving for the Lotus... I want a Honda so bad...

Quote from pb32000 :

Seriously, stop complaining about the cost of insurance in the UK.

Yes it's high, we all know it's high. It doesn't matter what car you have, you can still kill people - just the other day in my area 4 people were killed and a man paralysed for life after some pricks in a 106 had a head-on.

Sure you can say 'I'll never speed' or 'I always drive carefully', but insurance isn't individual is it, it's based on statistics. That's the way it is, and will be for the foreseeable future.

I know people who've had MX5s as first cars. My car was OK as a first car (Fiesta 1.6 16v), General Lee (forget your real name :schwitz has a 316 as a first car. It's not impossible to get something OK as a first car, as long as you're prepared to shop around and then pay for it.

Anyway a couple of years on (ie when you're 21) and things become very reasonable. In fact I'm looking at a Lotus Elise as my next car (have fun while you can n all that, don't have a family to lug around etc), and insurance isn't unaffordable. It's less than it was to insure the Fiesta for the first year, put it that way.

I would love to save up for the Lotus, but the thing is.. some simple luxuries are needed.. I don't know how people get those as daily drivers...

I might want to look at a diesel 3 series before I move out next year...

Quote from sam93 :

There is nothing wrong with "British reliability" Our cars are better than yank crap anyway. Stick with Jap and European cars. Dont get an American car though, he wont get around corners lol.

Yes, my friend who did Internet Marketing with me gave into the pressure and got a Camaro for 600 dollars...

I would never get an American Pony Car... Although I would want to get an "American Exotic" Something like a Viper ACR or... mmm that's it...

But like... if I got an MGB or a Frog Eyed Sprite... I don't think I could live with the interior or the 4 speed... or the breakdowns...

When I was purchasing cars, I had several criterias...

Cheap and within budget... 3k
Light, around a ton...
Livable interior...
Reliable...
4 wheel independent suspension
4 wheel disk brakes
5 speed manual

That narrowed down my selection to: Honda CRX Mk2, Toyota AW11, and NA6CE

all of them are excellent autox cars... but only the Miata has decent interior...

The AW11 was a little too dated and kinda scared me off with it's 80's space age interior

And the CRX is hard to find in decent condition... And ones with 4 wheel disk brakes are rare. (I can always swap Integra rear brakes into it, but I am too lazy to modify it)

I drive in first gear up a slope really slowly, I drive in 5th gear around flat straights, and I drive in neutral down hills, how about that?

Kiss- Love gun

I heard this song from "Role Models"

What do you mean? I get made fun of for driving a Miata, but the thing is, it is the cheapest sporty car I can get... for 3k which is about 1.5k pounds. (I didn't want to get an actual British Roadster because of the rumors of "British reliability")

I saved very hard for that car... I pay for all my own insurance and everything. I get 14k a year for good grades and good driving record, that would be about 7k pounds a year for you guys.

I actually bought a celica for 75 dollars illegally at 15, still have that in my back yard with grass growing through it...

(by the way, I can get 60 mpg with my Miata, suck on that! )

Quote from Jakg :

I live in the UK - so anything fast at all (i.e. an M3) is instantly a rediculously high amount to insure (i.e. £8k a year PLUS)

Oh, okay, but the thing is, I just looked up the weight of the e30 M3... it is ridiculously heavy...

A Japanese "fatass" car is just a little heavier then that, I would rather get the Supra Mk4 then the e30 M6. (but I don't have the money for that..)

I might just try to save up for a sports sedan, a TSX? (High Spec Accord in Europe)... I have a whole year ahead of me before I get kicked out of the house. (I have until June before I turn 18)

By the way, I would recommend an NA Miata for any beginner driver that is looking for a sporty car and/or going to join motorsports.

It is cheap, cheap to insure, and also very nimble.

Quote from mookie427 :

@ssm - because now he is just like every other rapper, in his early days he was something new on the rap scene, someone who didn't take himself too seriously and had a bit of fun. His old stuff like Stan, My Name Is etc are still very good today but almost all of the stuff he has made post-Without Me has been totally forgettable

Kinda, but the thing is, My Band is quite memorable.

Just wondering, how much would an e30 m3 be worth?

I am guessing around 3k pounds or 6k usd?

I need a little more practicality... I currently drive a Miata...

Quote from mookie427 :

he was good before he went too serious. His last good track was 'Without Me'

What is wrong with him being serious?

Oh wow, well, first about rap is that... Rap is not about being a poseur...

Have you heard the term "wigger" or "wangsta"?

Those are terms to describe those "chavs" or egomaniacs that use this to be "cool".

Last edited by ssm, Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:16.

Well, what do you think of this song...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2S32b0bADyY

Eh, what would you classify as Chavy?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v= ... hzPXw&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v= ... jJHsk&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v= ... 7lTyI&feature=related

I love Blackout Crew, although I can't even ****ing understand them half the time, lol.

Why did you say "It's possible" followed up with "dumbass"?

Do you even speak Chinese?

I think Linkin Park counts... but it is Hip-Hop..

Rap is more what is more classified as "Gangsta Rap", all the focus is on the words, no overly-distracting melodies to detract from the point.

Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhCNFaaTq1Q

Anything with singing or chorus is Hip-Hop.

I also downloaded Evo, but it turns out that I don't have the Ram to play either of them...