Might be IN

Quote from Scawen :

Yeah, it should be nice to drive. Only with the current tyre physics, we had to use unrealistic setups to make the car handle well. That's the good thing, it showed up flaws in the tyre physics. The bad thing is it ended up taking years to develop the new tyre physics, and I took some wrong turns during that development. Also changed lifestyle in various ways during that time, LFS went through a quiet period.

Anyway it seems to me we are back on track, working hard on new things and LFS is having a gradual resurgence which will be helped by further developments we are working on and ones we aren't even working on yet.

I guess that is to be expected when you are trying to develop some complex physical model of what these black stuff called tyres are doing without having any data or any opportunity to gather some.

If I'm honest, I'm one of these guys to have really enjoyed LFS, I arrived pretty much before the Scirocco was announced - right before CTRA closing - and enjoyed playing this game for years until I got involved in real active life after uni.

Now that I have quite an interesting role into motorsport, I got to know the complexity of vehicle dynamics and tyres especially and know too much how things are hard when you don't have the right info so honestly big congratz to you for keeping it up! I'm really looking forward that new tyre model and hope it will bring some action back in this game.,

#Nostalgia

Thanks for that ! Bringing the spdo EventDatabase into the table, I always thought it was ashame it all disappear as it was the memory of LFS when leagues are concerned. In a way I assume that what Josh did on spdo website should have been included on LFS website or LFS world.

Anyway that's not what would bring back the good old time of racing in here

I guess that's quite an easy thing to understand that from a business point of view that would not really make any sense unfortunately.

And about the demo, that's how it is but I guess we pretty much all learnt there really avoiding noobs even "in the good old days" when XRT was still a demo car.

I think a lot of things have been developed by LFS community, and probably even more than what the devs would have expected at the begining.

I mean, CTRA system, LFS Lapper and gcomp system, Airio, Dailycious but even everything that happened on the league side, the spdo Event Database, ...

This community has been able to develop so much funny thing over the years because it was full of great talent that really made that game alive and got us so many hours of pure fun. That is just a shame the community isn't that strong anymore because I really had a lot of fun on public servers

Quote from Ziomek21 :

Co-sign, all we see are no wind GTI races, mostly on non-open configurations. Hardly any action in the forgotten TBO and LRF classes... You can change the weather and it feels kinda nice, but 90% of the time its the standard setting.

Missing CTRA?

Sounds like nostalgia is hitting a lot of people...

I love internet...That gave the opportunity for anyone to say anything and actually feel free to say it even if it doesn't make any point...

I assume that the fact devs haven't answered there say it all...

Last edited by MoMo92i, Thu 22 Dec 2016, 03:18.

classic Le Mans..

Anything that is called endurance league sounds sexy for me. That can remind some ppl old good times of DoP.

do you really have to go on the internet to find wierd people?

Seems to have whole race now on youtube.

Well nobody have any qualifying tyres so it doesn't change anything actually. Quickest lap in Le Mans are done early in sunday morning (around 6 a.m) when the track finally catch some grip and that traffic get lower.

Top Speed doesn't mean that much as all the hybrid LMP1 have some fuel usage limitation per lap so they have some ceiling at the end of the straight. What is more useful is to look at the acceleration zone, and well that Porsche is damn quick!

Awesome!

When do we have all the tracks like that? :P

Thanks Deko & team for all your work and the great time we have all enjoyed racing in your leagues from Team Vires.

I'm not really surprised and it seems quite fair. I have really enjoyed your leagues as they brings some professionalism in race organisation but also by being able to understand what common sense actually means. Too many virtual race director have no clue what is that, hopefully we will cross your road in some other sims.

Well should I say that it is always easier to motivate old school lfs racer for a good 24hrs of orgasm racing in a brand new Westhill track than for a two hours race in south city?

Welcome!

I was talking about drivers ofc in regards to what Tristan said about women and multitasking. Leena is a great engineer and deserve her job not because she is a woman than can do several thing at the same time because she is a woman but simply a great race engineer. Same for all the drivers in factories teams, one day there may be a woman driving a LMp1 not because she has a better ability to deal with several task but simply because she would be fast, race clever and give good feedback to its team.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Sun 31 Aug 2014, 19:41.

Quote from tristancliffe :

The cars are not fast. Slower even than F3. Considerably.

So in that respect, talent may be of lesser importance. What difficult is managing the energy - when to coast, when to regen, when to do neither. Whilst driving. Whilst racing. Perhaps then, the stereotype of women being better as multitasking will confer a competitive advantage over perhaps "quicker" males.

Who knows?! I don't really care. The reduction of fossil fuel consumption for the championship (if any) is cancelled out by the shipping, the fans driving and the manufacture of twice the number of cars necessary. Therefore anyone who genuinely thinks this is a good championship ( compared to its goals) must be an idiot.

Well Tristan many cars are slower than F3 actually and these cars are still faster than F4 and if you give them slick tyres they will also be a bit quicker than what they are ... Anyway whoever saying these cars are simply shit because there are slower than a state of art petrol seater is just non-sense. If racing electric was faster at its current stage of development everyone in motorsport would really looks stupid as no-one have yet try to move to full electric before ... Almost everyone is racing petrol since the early age of motorsport when petrol car eventually seemed to have a slight advantage over the other technologies (electric being only one of the others).

Truth is that petrol engines and their technology have been developed for more than one century, on-board electric have pretty much just started! Few years ago such a "fast" electric car wasn't really possible. Energy storage is the challenge like many other aspects of petrol engine were back in the days. Motorsport bring a lot of improvement on it over the years and that's pretty much what Formula E is trying to do. If in few years you get audi, Renault, Mercedes,... powertrains into it, you will be sure that they will make massive improvement on it which will be beneficial not only for these cars performance but also simply for industry and then this championship will be a good thing and anyone denying it would be idiot.

Then yes, this is pure marketing but Le Mans is pure marketing also for Audi and Porsche (yeah no constructor is racing purely for the sake of racing fast cars), yes these cars doesn't make a noise which is as sexy as a old good Matra V12, yes there are some wierd rules (i have to agree on the car change...) but at the end of the day that's just different than what we know, let's first have a look at how it actually looks like before judging. I saw the car during its development and tbh that's still quite interesting to watch.

Then racing will be quite a lot about the strategy you use to manage your energy but don't forget that's what is being done this year in F1 and Le Mans. Even if F1 doesn't look any better than before, Le Mans was fantastic with 3 constructor having completely different approach. There is still no women in factory LMP1 teams as far as I know and believe me you better have some drivers than some others. That's already quite a long time a driver isn't only driving but is the extension of an engineering team. Wait and see, if the racing is shit, as a proper frenchman I will be the first to moan but I still expect racing drivers to be racing drivers and to give these cars some proper fight. Slow cars doesn't means bad races; believe me a french formula 4 race even at Pau street circuit is more exciting than a Formula One boring race.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Thu 28 Aug 2014, 23:54.

1st rule when you develop something is to have back up in case of of a mistake and also in several places, so yeah scawen probably have that somewhere.

I really missed an initiative made by genR few years ago. That was a daily race event and that was a lot of fun. That could be an initiative to fix a time daily to race and have fun together.

The thing that people don't understand is that tyre model change all the behaviour of the car. At the end of the day a race car is a complex system of basic mechanics laws until it comes to tyres. And everything the sprung mass of a car is doing is only controlling the input of the tyres in term of load, camber, slip angle, slip ratio, and whatever your tyre model uses. You can have a perfect car kinematic if your tyre model is crap everything is crap also.

When it goes wrong it goes wrong completely and do stupid things...Before releasing something decent Scavier have to get ride of the stupid thing the model may do.

To be honest the work Scawen is doing is quite impressive and F1 teams have similar struggles with development team as big as 20ish people...

Really looking forward these updates in lfs as even if it´s not perfect I still find that lfs is the most user friendly and enjoyable sim available. Just sad so many people left.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Wed 13 Aug 2014, 23:07.

Tbh you can't really moan about LFS slow development if you don't have yet discovered most of the game...

This is the problem with all those racing simulator business. Only few of them actually pays the license for software, tracks, cars..

crap I registered right before that :\