the point is how do you do to close and lock your canopy? I think you didn't understand the problem. The problem that FIA pointed is that in case of crash (and bad luck) some object like wheels (Henri Surtees' son), pushrod (Ayrton Senna), springs (Felipe Masse)... can hurt the driver. So by the way the problem isn't when the car is upside down because this isn't canopy mission to protect driver in that case but it is the mission of the rollcage.
The problem with the canopy is how to extract a driver quickly from it, in case of fire for example. So the huge problem is to build some fast but hard locking system (and add lot of stuff due to closed cockpit like air conditioning,...
This canopy have in fact nothing in common with a closed LMP cockpit that is the rollcage too, here this is kind of "nothing into the head of driver system".
wrong it is damn hard : rain, temperature, safety (quick exit from the car, doors locking, ...), ... There are some reason why they are still some open prototyp at Le Mans
nop because of air restrictor ^^
I have heard someting about Dome...
:o I've totally forgot that test race. I apologize to admin team, sorry for not coming :s
the problems with formula in general are open cockpit and no bodywork around the wheel. It is a security and aerodynamic problem (formula one's Cx is around 0.9 whereas Porsche 911's is 0.26)
So if you want to have a car totally safe you need closed LMP...that is totally non sense.
more : I don't know exactly the weight of a wheel in formula one, but I suppose it is about 5kg+ so finally your windscreen have to be really really strong to stop it ! Look at that : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4xN0vfpUk
if you want some example of how dangerous an open cockpit is, you only have to remember what kill Senna.
So if you want to have a car totally safe you need closed LMP...that is totally non sense.
more : I don't know exactly the weight of a wheel in formula one, but I suppose it is about 5kg+ so finally your windscreen have to be really really strong to stop it ! Look at that : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4xN0vfpUk
if you want some example of how dangerous an open cockpit is, you only have to remember what kill Senna.
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btw that engine was AER engine renamed by Mazda speed and it was totally under powered by the regulation and not reliable at all...and very expensive too ^^
Wolf Racing formula one in late 70s. Only the second team to win its first ever formula one Grand Prix after Mercedes !
http://www.rccartips.com/tamiya-f1-wolf-racing.jpg
http://www.vrchy.com/2011_spa/wolf.jpg
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Maybe they would have died today in open prototyp !Gratz to Audi for this safety !
Well Peugeot got a warning from the marshalls (that's why after almost crashing #2 Audi Davidson finally let him pass after Mulsanne corner). ofc that is totally unfair but that's not new. Indeed I remember Audi intentionally blocking Sarrazin while he was tryig to make the pole in 2009. In 1969 Porsche 908 #60 was block a long time behind #7 Ford GT40 that was the team mate of #6 Jacky Ickx's car.
Peugeot is french but that's not why they don't get a penalty...look at #8 Peugeot that was penalize because one mechanic forgot its glasses during a refuelling.
I'm happy that didn't change anything on final result it would have been such a shame for Peugeot to win like that and a deep unrespect to Le Mans and its legend.
These crash from Audi remind me few pictures :
http://www.7sur7.be/static/FOT ... 8/5/6/media_xl_936756.jpg
two years later Benoit Tréluyer did a fantastic job and win one of the most entertaining race of the history setting pole and certainly the stint that enable Audi to get the checkered flag!
Another picture of #1 Audi :
http://photos.autoreflex.com/p ... podium-3148_580_435_9.jpg
Peugeot is french but that's not why they don't get a penalty...look at #8 Peugeot that was penalize because one mechanic forgot its glasses during a refuelling.
I'm happy that didn't change anything on final result it would have been such a shame for Peugeot to win like that and a deep unrespect to Le Mans and its legend.
These crash from Audi remind me few pictures :
http://www.7sur7.be/static/FOT ... 8/5/6/media_xl_936756.jpg
two years later Benoit Tréluyer did a fantastic job and win one of the most entertaining race of the history setting pole and certainly the stint that enable Audi to get the checkered flag!
Another picture of #1 Audi :
http://photos.autoreflex.com/p ... podium-3148_580_435_9.jpg
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I have just came back home and omfg what a race! Pugs and Audi were so amazing! Pug was the fastest car during the night with soft tyres but was totally off pace with medium. Anyway 13s! The atmosphere was unbelievable and Audi #2 did an extroardinary job as his whole team! Their race was really consistant but they have been several time almost hitting some Gts ! Pugs were not consistant and that's why they lose although they pitted less. Brilliant race for us, but not really from them...3 against 1 I still don't understand their strategy...
That race was certainly the mist exuting race I have ever been, nothing was sure before last pit stop for the win and the gap between pugs and audi have never been more than 2 mins however, GT race was fantastic too. At 4am in GT Pro & AM & P1 the 4 leading cars were in less than 2 minutes! Epic race!
That race was certainly the mist exuting race I have ever been, nothing was sure before last pit stop for the win and the gap between pugs and audi have never been more than 2 mins however, GT race was fantastic too. At 4am in GT Pro & AM & P1 the 4 leading cars were in less than 2 minutes! Epic race!
6 cars in 1s in free practise session...gonna be epic !
enjoy !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd1i1ZP3Aec
that's a Norma which is the brand that fight with Osella in European hillclimb championship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd1i1ZP3Aec
that's a Norma which is the brand that fight with Osella in European hillclimb championship.
It doesn't have the same sound anymore :'( it is a bit uglier but still the best on track
well there is really a huge mone ygap between motorcyle and cars.
24 hours of Le Mans invitation is 55 000 €. With that money you only have the right to participate. You have to add the cost of the car (LMP2 are 400 000 €, LMP1 are > 800 000 €), fuel (something like 4 € per liter), tyres (really expensive too), miscellaneous other things like oil and of course something like 3 bodywork sets, wishbones, ... One more figure, carbon fiber Brembo LMP brakes are 55 000 €...
So I let you imagine how much Le Mans cost ^^ You have to find at least 1 million euros to compete in LMP1 (with a back grid car) and I doubt motorcycle cost that much.
I'll be in Le Mans too
24 hours of Le Mans invitation is 55 000 €. With that money you only have the right to participate. You have to add the cost of the car (LMP2 are 400 000 €, LMP1 are > 800 000 €), fuel (something like 4 € per liter), tyres (really expensive too), miscellaneous other things like oil and of course something like 3 bodywork sets, wishbones, ... One more figure, carbon fiber Brembo LMP brakes are 55 000 €...
So I let you imagine how much Le Mans cost ^^ You have to find at least 1 million euros to compete in LMP1 (with a back grid car) and I doubt motorcycle cost that much.
I'll be in Le Mans too
You should have told that to Gerard Larrousse & Hans Hermann and the whole Porsche team in 1969 that have totally forgotten #60 908 during 20 hours before the last 917 broke its engine...then I guess they had some regrets in the last lap.
Same story in 1970, #23 917 K was the slowest 917 on track, however she won !
What about Le Mans 1977?
What about 1980 when Rondeau beated Porsche factory?
What about 1991 when Mazda-Oreca beated Mercedes, Jaguar, Toyota, Porsche, Peugeot,...
What about 1995 when Mclaren won it?
What about 1999, certainly the best edition of modern times? Do you realise that BMW V12 LMR wasn't the favorite at all?
There are so many factors that can totally change the face of the race ! 24 hours is really a very long race, and there is NO 24 hours race with no troubles. Indeed each team has its own problem (sometimes it is a small one like a slow puncture 10 mins before the end of the race, sometimes not...) and Le Mans is...Le Mans, a track...hum no...a road that is totally different from something else, where EVERYTHING can happen. Yo ucan ask Peugeot ^^ and I think you have better seen last year results and 2007's where a slow Pescarolo manage to be on the podium !
There are plenty of example showing that this isn't only about the performance but really about efficiency, luck, and what the track want. A german team manager once said :"You win Monaco GP, you win Indianapolis 500, you survive Le Mans"
Le Mans is David vs Goliath, Jaguar vs Mercedes, Matra vs Ferrari, Rondeau vs Porsche, Pescarolo vs Audi. the victories of David, are why Le Mans is so beautiful.
LMP1, and that's not only for Le Mans, in fact Honda stops its Le Mans program
Source ACO . Seems that this is because of the situation in Japan, almost same story as the 2nd Oreca Signatech-NISSAN.
Strakka and RML may be there (RML chassis is ok...only have to do some hard work on it
)
EDIT : Endurance-info article about that :
http://www.endurance-info.com/ ... detail.php?VARnewsID=7200
Source ACO . Seems that this is because of the situation in Japan, almost same story as the 2nd Oreca Signatech-NISSAN.
Strakka and RML may be there (RML chassis is ok...only have to do some hard work on it
)EDIT : Endurance-info article about that :
http://www.endurance-info.com/ ... detail.php?VARnewsID=7200
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was funy can't wait to have some proper cars
can't wait to have some proper cars 51 – Morgan Trollé – MoMo92i – spdoRacing – France
Happy birthday IneX ! And have a nice fight in MoE final
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