Well we lapped LLM at least three times (eventually not to have a single one at the end) and your pace was even better than ours. Hopefully we will see you soon on track.

Quote from Sobis :

Hmm, to me only the first stints were somewhat hard to start. After like 2 practice stints it became much more enjoyable and I had no trouble finding motivation. I was actually quite sad when I didn't have time to do a stint.

24hrs isn't long enough!

Was sad to see CoRe 77 having to retire due to connections issues :s

Actually those endurance races are probably the only reason why we are all still playing this game.

Quote from dekojester :

My command centre for this (or any) race:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akam ... 393934124_400283109_n.jpg

Such mess
So paper

Such a big cup of coffee !

Thanks for all the work you (and your dummies ) have done this season again to run probably what is the most professionnal sim racing league in the world for such a small administration team.

By the way, as Vires vice-Team manager, I would like to dedicate our GT2 class win to our competitor and friend Tomasz Nogiec. I hope he enjoyed this race. Rest in peace mate, hopefully you met Ayrton where you are.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Sun 9 Feb 2014, 23:48.

Well it's done, you can't catch us as we are 0.3s faster pace and have already lapped you 3 times just to fail again, but while failing we let you pass 8 hours mark in the lead while being p5 so basically now that you passed 16hrs mark p3 for us to win this champ we will need you to finish at least p3. But as we definitely like to fail, while having 1.5 lap lead we decided to take our first wrong strategy decision and let you and you alone come back on our lap...We definitely don't want to win this and I'm planning us to fail again somehow and so not even win that race.

2 disconnection and one computer frozen, hopefully 2nd half will be more lucky...

To be honest regarding track choice, I think it didn't help to get folks coming. If you look back at AS6 two cars stayed on the waiting list...Of course 24hrs race requires less man power but still AS6 is more interesting track than ky2r

Quality > quantity indeed but...that's not MoE 2012

Read what DWB posted well still looks obsolete...

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

I mean, you know that photo was after they cut the roll cage open, right?

Yes ofc but if they have to cut the roof it was because the roll cage did move and it wasn't possible to extract the driver with the roof. Couldn't find a picture with its roof still on but my guess is that the roll cage didn't really survive. In comparison the pescarolo 908 that took off in Le Mans 2009 in front of my eyes (that was terrific) had absolutely no damage on the tube, same for McNish and Rocky's Audi.

As Phil said, for an LMP open cockpit debris would have been the issue rather than that Ferrari lifting on driver's head. By the way the shape of the front nose is also made to avoid that.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Errr.. If it was an LMP2 car [except the Mazdas] that hit that stationary 458 it most certainly would have been fatal since the 458 lifted up. What you would have seen would be nothing short of a decapitation. What saved Gidley was most definitely that it was a closed cockpit.

LMP cars have carbon fiber crashbox that collapse, DP don't and basically their front was use as an LFS ramp. You said he was saved by the cockpit? It looks that it nearly killed him...Look where the tube is. That's definitely not as strong a state of art carbon fiber LMP chassis. if this crash happened with a LMP car the Ferrari would have not been lifted up, the crashbox of the LMP2 would have made the job to absorb the kinetic energy. The difference between DP and LMP2 is called FIA crash test.

What may have killed Gidley is that DP chassis are obsolete and nowhere FIA standard. Thanks god it's close cockpit but when the cockpit collapse that much that may actually be more a problem than a solution...

http://cdn-6.motorsport.com/st ... /1658100/1658116/s3_1.jpg

Many huge crash similar to this one have already occured in LMS/Le Mans/ALMS especially one at Silverstone in 2009 and nobody was badly injured in LMP



Few example :

http://images.forum-auto.com/m ... 9/SPA11ILMCSPAVS21003.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMoI_5vjtSI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_F5x1m4YGM (Oak car after a 230km/h walling in Le Mans)


(pompidou being collected by another LMP at the finish of 2009's Silverstone 1000kms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nthu0GLo1Gk
Romain Dumas collecting a GT at Mulsanne corner, only 80kph tho.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 22:45.

I still don't understand why NASCAR sticked to DP....that Corvette was just completely smashed and it was pure luck that Memo Gidley didn't die.

At least LMP cars can fly and no one hurt...plus they look much more 2014s, I'm not talking about how the BoP is ridiculous. DP pulling 1s away in the oval section and LMP2 catching into the technical sections and braking zone. DP got advantage at Daytona because of power but might be much slower into some more technical tracks.

At least this race confirmed that no way we see DP in Le Mans!

yeah that's why it's better to do it right before going into the complex things...And if you want to take into account all the possible setting your suspension kinematic can have, that's actually not only a toe curve but you have to implement a multibody model with possibility of setups (toe,caster,pSteer,camber,ride height,...).

Last edited by MoMo92i, Tue 28 Jan 2014, 21:13.

Well to be honest, having everything which is higher that contact path is more important to have first before having a perfect tyre model. If you start with the tyre model, you will be misleaded by errors in suspension kinematics, aero load,...so your tyre can't be realistic...unfortunately that's how lfs have been developed, even if lfs physics are better than most of video games, there is still many way to improve it before investigating in depth tyre model.

probably not modelled in lfs...

well that's depend actually because many factors influence on tyre radius. rotationnal speed, camber, wear (it change the structural properties of the tyres), temperature,...

Tyres are so complex, lfs should probably focus on some more useful stuff tbh like having aero map pitch sensitive, and what about having aero load actually creating some spring deflection and requiring the use of bump stop?.

Exept the Oak LMP2, LMP2 cars are much slower...

Everything

Good luck Joonas!

Really well said Matti!

#54 & 63 update

Rest in Peace Tomek.

I let the bonnet colorfull with Tomek picture as he deserve not to be in the dark.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Tue 14 Jan 2014, 20:24. Reason : added 63

When Niki told me the news on facebook I couldn't believe it and still can't

Tomek was one of those people that push everyone up simply by his natural talent. He was a really strong competitor ,some said sometimes too much but at the end of the day that was just showing how much he was passionnated by motorsport and that LFS, as he confessed to me once, was unfortunately the only way for him to be close to his dream.

I would always remember how enthusiast he was after the Blackwood round of the opening GT2WS. He really enjoyed his race with Isaac on that day and that made him happy, but he was also sad because thanks to some massive draft I had, I made the fastest lap of the race, beating his time. That was Tomek, always fighting to be #1, and that's simply what he was.

Rest in peace my friend, hope you will keep be winning where you are now.

Last edited by MoMo92i, Tue 14 Jan 2014, 23:52.

We recovered from my early mistake & disconnection thanks to red flag. Then I got some scary moment at the restart passing the field but in the end on the second part of the race we started hour 2 with something like 50s gap (thanks to me failing to change tyres :facepalm. Would have been even better if me and Adam didn't make it more complicated by changing the suspension geometry but yeah it ended much better than how started..however sad for 63, they deserved it and I'm not so sure I would have called any multi 21 action if I could have done

Jesse I can sympathize with you
https://www.lfsforum.net/attac ... id=95744&d=1257675360

Last edited by MoMo92i, Sun 12 Jan 2014, 17:32.

Quote from CSF :

gg jeoonnneass. Would you have lapped the field if your team-mate could qualify?

You mean if they didn't have to fix damage after 15 minutes?

Anyway that 3:02.51 qualify lap was quite funny

Gratz Joonas & ilbens as well as podium in both class (but not to myself)

Last edited by MoMo92i, Sun 12 Jan 2014, 17:05.

That made me though that the grand stand around Aston track are really badly placed ! Look at the view you have if you are in the one at the begining of the s/f straight

I don't see what you are talking about

hopefully that will not end by a drag race on the final straight after 24 h ! (deja vu also )