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Tomi
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this has nothing to do with money.

According to your flawed perception, anything which is well made is an art. That's just not true.
Tomi
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Quote from sanderman2000 :Think about it again...
Get to the professional level of each and tell us that it's not an Art.
Imho, while the skills are getting higher than a physical reflexes,that come from 5 senses - it starts to be an Art...6th sense. Dunno how to explain it.
Aliens will understand me

Sorry but with such a stupid idea, all high levels athletes would be artists. They are not.That 6th sense thing is just a bad way to say you sucks compared to them. But this has nothing to do with extra powers.
Tomi
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Quote from [plidex] mateo :i think that "normal" or "grip" racing is the most beautiful way to go from "A" to "B", and also the fastest i mean, what is more beautiful than watching a perfect hotlap? a car going sideways and making smoke? i don't think so

Whatever the style (drifting/driving/racing). This is never beautiful. Racing/drifting can be fun yes, it's entertaining, but it's not an art.

You don't drive fast to create a piece of art, you do it because you like pushing harder and harder at the limit, you do it because you like speed, you do it because you like measuring yourself to others. The same thing apply to drifting. No drifter does it as an art form. They do it because they like the sensation to be at the edge and try to do better than the others. That's all.

The difference between drifters and racers are not in the aesthetic. The difference is only in the way each others are measured and how they battle. Racers measure themselves with a chronometer and a start/finish line, drifters measure themselves with the subjective judgement of people on the side of the track.

Racers/Drifters are gladiators, not maestros or poets. And that stupid new topic prove how we all are bad poets.
Tomi
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Quote from ImportFantasy :Falken Ae86 taking a spin in fern bay. More to see in Lynce's magazine.




I see two XRG, not an AE86.
Tomi
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Bathurst and Isle of Man would be cool but I agree with the previous statement. Brands Hatch or Cadwell Park would be a better choice for LFS as it is a shorter track. Long tracks are fun when driving offline but shorter ones are funnier online. I don't like driving alone in the middle of nowhere.
Tomi
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it's ugly and a stupid idea.
Tomi
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the FO8 is the best looking open wheel in LFS. It's clean shape makes it look better than the other. A bit like mid 1990's F1 cars.

The GP2 are ugly. They are made too look like the modern F1 cars which look even uglier. The modern F1 cars are crippled with stupid and ugly aero accessories. They looks stupid because the modern F1 regulation are much too restrictive and doesn't permit the engineer to make better design. So they need those external devices to correct the flaws.

The FO8 should stay as it is. If you want a GP2, ask for a new ugly car. No need to spoil the FO8.

We have a good range of openwheels. I'd only add a champcar like car, a bit heavier and longer than a Formula 1 but with a more powerful turbo (yet less efficient in the low revs) engine and steel brakes. F1 cars are fast but not much fun to race because passing is always difficult with those brakes.

I'd better see a whole endurance prototype package, starting from a tiny barquette such as the Norma M20 or Osella with a motorbike or >2L engine. Then a LMP2 like car and 2 LMP1-like cars, one open, one closed (we don't need diesel engine though !) with slightly different physics. I'd see the closed one more aero efficient and faster in the long straight while the open one would be slightly lighter.
Tomi
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too bad the girl has the voice of a witch. I couldn't watch the full vid thanks to her.
Tomi
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Quote from Woz : So to get this clear. In future versions we will have the following situation
  • Open wheel cars - sequential
  • GTR cars - sequential by default but gearbox can be changed to H
  • Others - H
Where do the UFR & XFR fit in. I assume they will selectable gearbox but possible H as default?

UFR and XFR real names are UF-1000 GTR and XF GTR. They are GTR cars.
Tomi
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I'd say the LX4.

This car is only good when driven smoothly, so a newbie would learn the basics, and the car is still quite easy to drive without too much power.
Tomi
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why don't you look for them on lfsworld.

A basic search show 355 racers from ireland. Just pm them to know more about them.
Tomi
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Quote from Alan Dove :lol i meant 1:20

First : this is Renée Arnoux who show up on the inside without sufficient overlap, so you can hardly say that Gilles cut his line on the outside.

Second : this is the only contact in several laps of active battle, where both of them leave room to each others. A slight misjudgement can happen in such a battle.

Third : they both had completely worn out front tires (Gilles having also flat spots), making the braking much more hazardous.

All in all, the whole battle was extremely fair and one of the best they both had (see how they laughed on the podium), and is exactly the opposite to your view about motorsports.

I will had that you mentionned Senna and Schumacher, but you easily forget a lot of F1 World champions (or not champions) which were much more respectfull to their opponents than Senna and Schumacher.
Tomi
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Quote from danowat :But you need a server setup to use TS or Ventrillo?

Yes but there are lot of free ones.
Tomi
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Quote from Alan Dove :
It's how guys like Gilles Villeneuve racing, Schumacher, Senna to name but a few.... but for sure...they are well childish because clearly winning F1 titles means they are 'like children'!

In FACT i find using the word childish disrespectful because I can go and get a couple of 8 years who could beat you on a level playing field right now!

You discredit yourself. Gilles Villeneuve used to leave room on the outside instead of doing it the Senna's way.
Tomi
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Schumacher is also driving in regular open roads. Does it means that that Paris Hilton is as much a real racer as Ayrton Senna ?
Tomi
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Quote from ayrton senna 87 :its not arrogance, its fact, most of u guys do not know what you are doing, every1 who knows me knows im not arrogant, and in real life i dont go around crashing into people, because of the fact that they arent losers with 0 talent.

uhuhuhuhu

This is your racecraft and competitiveness that makes you bumping people at T1, and end on the roof alone in the AS Cadet chicane at lap 2 ?

stop saying sh!t, you are both an arrogant and dirty racer. And hiding behind a famous name won't make you look a better racer.

By the way, competitiveness has nothing to do with being a clean racer or not. And the inverse is true. At all levels of competition you can see fair and unfair drivers.
Tomi
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First thanks for the servers guys.

IMHO, there is not so much things to do. With popularity always come the bad drivers. The only solution is to have an admin online to clean a bit the server. I had some great races when an admin was present. But this is a full time job and you just can't race and moding at the same time, it just lead you to frustration because you can't manage to admin correctly and at the same time the moding prevent you from having good races.
Tomi
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he has nothing to prove to you Ayrton.
Tomi
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Quote from marsaz :Never heared about actually making sense?

It makes sense. Gilles Villeneuve at Dijon had worn out tires. Yet he still overtook René Arnoux several time. And though they made contact, both of them made room for the other on the outside.
Tomi
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Quote from marsaz :
Yes, i don't understand that the outside line can be as fast as the inside line because it simply can't and there are no banked corners in circuits.

There are. I don't talk about high degrees, but enough to give the outside line a chance.

Quote :And a car without enough grip (weared tyres) will not be able to keep up anyway so it wont be overtaking anyone.

Never heard about Gilles Villeneuve ?
Tomi
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Quote from marsaz :It's not the "pusher" it's the driver who's taking his line and if the outside-behind car makes a contact it takes the responsibility about what happens next I am not talking here about the guys who randomly run people of the road...
And who said squeezing someone isn't fair? If you are being squeezed and you don't back off you simply run out of track or make a contact it's simple as that. In both cases it's your fault. If you want to keep it clean, back off a bit and fight for it in the next corner or so

you don't understand that the driver on the outside has the right to not back off. And you can also say that the driver on the inside takes the responsibility if he hit the one on the outside and spin because of it.

You also don't understand that the outside line can be as fast as the inside if the banking allow it or if the tires are in a better shape. Both drivers can exit the corner side by side.
Tomi
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Quote from Hoppers :Well that's the point, they don't. There are millions riding on this: car-sales, sponsorship, the reputation of the whole company. At this level they are fighting for every tenth on track (okay maybe every second) so some doofus mechanic not knowing his job or not concentrating before or during a pitstop is not allowed. I don't think any of those mechanics are enjoying themselves during the race, they are working their asses off.

Some teams remain competitive yet seems to have a lot more fun than those audi guys, including great ones. You can be serious and still have fun and smile. It's part of the reputation of the company too.

Must be the german way. I bet this is the reason why Audis have that "car for wealthy insurance employee" image and why they don't build fun cars oriented towards driver pleasure.
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Tomi
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Quote from marsaz :
And it will certainly be not you who's laughing when you'll be squeezed off the track while thinking "nobody can push me off!". Nobody keeps themselves on the outside line for too long (except situations where overtaking car is too slow to be in front by the exit of the corner) in real life because they know they will be squeezed off. It is racing, not gentelmen's club.

sometimes this is the pusher who end up in the wall, and I'll have no pity for him on shuch case.

It's not about being in a gentlemen's club. You can be competitive yet fair. I had some fair races last night, and other much dirtier. If I race a clean racer, I just try to be as fair as possible. If he is dirty, I give up after a few laps and beat him at his own game if I can. Funny as some of them are prompt to whining and call names once they are pushed off the track while they have kept doing it the whole evening to others. :haha:
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Tomi
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By the way, I know those guys are supposed to be professionnal and that a lot of money is involved, but that Dr Wolfgang Ulrich looks kinda suspicious to me. He looks like a torture master, and the mechanics seem all frightened. I don't think maintaining a fear among your team will make it faster / more reliable.

They have the right to have some fun and pleasure for god sake !
Tomi
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Quote from Shotglass :i kinda doubt it remember the year when the changed the entire rear suspension + gearbox just to be sure ?
unless one of the drivers makes a huge mistake id say joest is way too well organized to be beaten by a bunch of frog eaters

OWNED



like Deggis said. Le Mans is Le Mans. Everything can happen at the last minute. There is only one Audi left, the Peugeot had some minor problems in the previous hours. Everything can happen, even a Pescarolo win (which would be well deserved), especially with the current weather forecast.

In 52, Levegh was leading the race in his Talbot, 3 laps of advantage over the Mercedes boys. He just missed a gear, put the 2nd instead of the 4th gear, and the race was over for him in the last hour.
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