Kit Car progress: finished default skins, minor shading fixes and added some minor dashboard details. Made some tests with various tire sizes and compounds.

Found out, that an original 185/65 R15 gravel tire size from a Michelin catalog cannot be replicated in the LFS Editor, because there is a different ratio between width and thread. In LFSE thread is much smaller and car understeers badly. To preserve an original thread, 200/55 R15 is needed. With such tire the car can compete with TBO class, however, it is too large for rear mudguards Finally, I decided to use 195/60 R15 tires. Thread is still too small, but the size is compatible with the current V1600 class used by the LFS Rally Community

Did a multiple tests with this size and found out, that now even slicks can be used, without flipping the car on roof every 5 seconds. Added a default racing setup with slicks and a terrain setup inspired by 1997 Rally Acropolis. Still working on dashboard panels.

Hi! Godot is a game engine, but also has a pretty nice UI editor for non-game applications (or for games too). You don't need it to run this tool, actually the 60-ish MB executable is the engine itself (with the editor and some other stuff removed, and my own project embedded).

One important thing with Godot though, is that it supports multiple rendering APIs, like Vulkan and OpenGL, and I chose Vulkan by default, so if your GPU is old it may not support it; however, I also released an OpenGL version, you can use that one and it should work just fine.
The next release of Godot should automatically allow falling back to OpenGL if Vulkan is not supported, at that point I will be able to provide a single version, and that error message should stop showing.

Let me know if you have any other issue!

Quote from scania :

can I load a map from google into this editor?

the editor is Blender3D and I am sure it is possible to load background images into it. Just goigle any tutorial how to do it.

can I load a map from google into this editor?

Hello,
after the f30, I decided to model a sedan car again. I started working on the superb, a well-known skoda model that we all know is easily recognizable by its stripes. i would say it's almost 90% over now. I tried to do quite different things on this tool using the editor's animations.
-The ambience and indicator colors can be changed from inside the pit.
-The glass ceiling opens and he can come back.
-The taillights slide when you turn the car on and off.
-The indicators and multimedia turn off and on with animation when you turn off and turn on the car.

I took great care to transfer the actual characteristics of a car like this into the game.

i change my pc and in this week i update lfs editor and the lfs reinstall like 3 times beacuse ff tools and i want to login in lfs editor can someone help me get unlockes key

Quote from stuchlo :

Hello, I would like to ask a question about tire design in LFS editor. During...

I think it could be specific tyre construction or measurements standard.
Sometimes if u install tyres on a rim, put air into them and measure dimensions, they can be different to ones from tire catalogues. Air pressure also influences that but Editor doesn't show that for some reason.

Last edited by versiu, Fri 4 Oct 2024, 22:50.

Quote from T R I C K Y :

Why has this excellent mod never been approved?

I used it to learn LFS Editor and uploaded it too early in development. Physics and sound were good but model, graphics side... ouh... It was rated in early state and it's just tweak mod so very small group of drivers uses it. There's some graphics bugs to fix anyway.

If u look at my modification of Rubies Memolution, u gona see day and night difference in quality. I have even better parts WIP but lack of time to finish anything for now ;/

Last edited by versiu, Fri 4 Oct 2024, 18:29.

Hello, I would like to ask a question about tire design in LFS editor. During work on a rally replica I went through some real rally tire catalogues and picked a few realistic tire sizes to test. Unfortunately I was not able to replicate those tire sizes. For example I have found a 205/60 R15 gravel rally tire with thread 7.76'' and radius 322mm, but when I adjusted a tire in the LFS Editor to 205/60 R15 I got thread 5.66'' and radius 314mm. Not a game-breaker, just curious, if I did something wrong, or it is a LFSE limitation

Hello, this is my upcoming project. 1973 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R KPGC110 "Ken & Meri", also known as "Phantom GT-R" because of it never got chance to race at all, opposite to Skyline tradition, due to oil crisis striked back in 1970s.

3D model is Martin Trafas' Nissan Skyline GT-R C110 Kenmeri '73. I downloaded model and unsubdivided it in blender & merged by distance in LFS Editor to make it fit in the tri-limit. All interior parts is modelled in blender with looking to real life and Gran Turismo's interior photos. This video really helped about reference: https://youtu.be/TgBlKRScTno?si=P2LV0blSZs_4ZoDV

Full development walkthrough video is here. Despite how much i try to model the interior and dashboard low poly as possible, it ended up in 64622 tris, so you'll see a little humor about it in this video

https://youtu.be/wMhI7mx34HA?si=BYXr4hXcxpgY8-_G

I decided to make this vehicle as Glass Van. I am currently continuing my modeling through the Editor. It was September 25th and I started doing it around 18:00 in the evening. I showed the developments regarding modeling in LFS's modding channel on discord. Exterior modeling is now completely finished. I'm currently working on interior work. Developments based on my work;

In my opinion bots should be stronger, but now it should not be a development priority, there are too many more important things to do before that, update with graphics and physics, track editor, dynamic weather, etc.

Quote from sevendust :

i understand how to to duplicate mapping but when i do it. it doesnt highlight...

The duplicated mapping will be exactly like the original one. So same size, location and cutout. While it looks like the original is highlighted, it's actually the copy. You can drag and rotate it with the blobs around it. You always need to assign the mapping to the tris. it's supposed to be shown on. So in your case the duplicated mapping needs to be rotated to the side and assigned to the "side" of the roof.

"free" behind a mapping only means that this mapping is not sitting parallel or perpendicular to the x,y,z planes of the editor. If you want a mapping to be marked as (for example) "top" it needs to be visible from the top view and the rotation values in the bottom left need to be either 0, 90, 180 or 270. But it doesn't really matter as long as the mapping isn't stretched on the model...

we only have planar projection mappings in editor
each X Y Z axis will need a mapping
each mapping can have same cutout
u will rotate each mapping so they face their axis
polygons must have the mapping of the closest axis they are facing to

cubic, spherical, cylindrical, UV mappings, or exotic projections are not possible yet

LFS UI Builder
==============

Introduction
------------
LFS UI Builder is a tool for creating and editing user interfaces for
LiveForSpeed, a racing simulation game. It allows you to visually design
UI elements and preview them in real-time within the game.

Features
--------
- Visual design interface
- Support for buttons, text labels, and panels
- Real-time preview in LiveForSpeed
- Property inspector for element customization
- Undo/Redo functionality
- Copy, cut, and paste support
- Element layering (bring to front, send to back)
- Most Recently Used (MRU) file list

Getting Started
---------------
1. Launch the LFS UI Builder application.
2. Create a new UI design or open an existing .lfsui file.

Designing Your UI
-----------------
- Use the toolbar to add UI elements (Panel, Button, Text).
- Select and manipulate elements in the design area.
- Modify element properties using the property inspector.
- Organize elements using the tree view and layering options.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
The size of the designer area is 400x400 pixels, but the actual size in
LiveForSpeed is 200x200 pixels. This larger design area is provided to
make it easier to create and manipulate UI elements. The design will be
automatically scaled down when saving or previewing in LiveForSpeed.

Previewing Your UI
------------------
1. Click "Tools" > "Live Preview" or use the preview button.
2. Enter the IP address and port of your LFS game instance.
3. Connect to see your UI in the game in real-time.

Saving Your Work
----------------
- Use "File" > "Save" or the Save button to save your design.
- "File" > "Save As" allows you to save with a new name or location.

How to use the .lfsui files
---------------------------
The .lfsui files are XML files that contain the UI layout information. To use these files in your project, you can parse the XML and extract the necessary information. Here's a simple C# code example that demonstrates how to parse the .lfsui file and print the results:


This code will parse the XML and print the flattened results, including the nested elements.

Additional Features
-------------------
- Advanced text editor for text elements
- Hierarchical view of UI elements in the tree view

Tips
----
- Group related UI elements using panels.
- Test your UI thoroughly in the game.
- Save your work frequently.
- Remember that the final UI will be half the size of what you see in the designer.

License
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Copyright (c) 2024 Periklis Koutsogiannis [email protected]

GPLv3 - See the included LICENSE.txt file or visit gnu.org and read the license.

Last edited by pkoutsogiannis, Sat 21 Sep 2024, 07:33.

Hello all,

I have noticed a peculiar glitch in the Live For Speed Vehicle Editor, where longer cars have their default skins cut off in the skin template. Is there any way to get around this?

Thanks in advance,
Nic

EDIT - I also found out that when I copy a .eng file from lfs/data/engine to lfs_editor/data/engine, and then select it from the LOAD WAVES menu, the engine sound is still the default when loading up in lfs. Very weird!

Last edited by UniValvePlums, Mon 16 Sep 2024, 12:26.

It only seems to be wrong in the LFS Editor models. It looks fine in the actual XR cars in game.

Here are a few screenshots of the new version. You can see the contrast between the most "civilian" configuration (GT Line) and the record-breaking version (Projekt 400).


Since I still have some spots left in the config. editor, I might make some more settings. Right now you can change chrome to carbon, remove the second cockpit, add a longer tail/splitter, change the wing, cover up the vents, add wheelcaps and remove the mirrors.

I will probably upload this weekend. Hoping for some feedback!





Also, my skins are copressed to **** in-game (especially our beautiful flag). Looks fine in the editor however. Any ideas?

Shiny wooden material with an ambient occlusion using GIMP software

1. Take a photo of wood and colorize it according to your liking in the first layer.
2. Create the second layer by duplicating the first layer. Desaturate (Colors -> Desaturate -> Desaturate) it and adjust contrast (Colors -> Curves) so both completely white and black pixels are present.
3. Remove white from the second layer using (Colors -> Color to Alpha)
4. Change 'Mode' of the second layer from 'Normal' to 'Erase'.
5. Hide the second layer and create the third layer between the first and the hidden second. Draw an ambient light using a black 'Airbrush'.
6. Create the fourth layer by duplicating the third layer. Change 'Mode' of the fourth layer from 'Normal' to 'Erase'.
7. Show the second layer and export a final PNG texture using '8bpc RGBA pixel format' and tick the 'Save color values from transparent pixels' option.
8. Load the PNG texture in the LFS editor and use a 'Variable Shine' option in the material properties. Similar steps may be also applied on many other materials (for example leather and various plastics).

The way the training lessons mode works is that you do have to work your way down the list to unlock more lessons.

But if you just want to drive around autocross with a layout with objects:

- go to Single player
- select the Autocross track
- in the Layout section, you can choose one of the default layouts with objects (AU1_LX_week1-3)

You can also use the layout from the MRT training lesson. Go to your LFS/data/training folder, find a file called AU1_MRT_AutoX.lyt and double click it or manually copy it over to data/layout. Then it will appear in the list of available layouts on the track selection screen.

It is also possible to create your own autocross layout - more information in the LFS Manual: Autocross Editor

I was thinking, if a track editor were to be released, doing something like a track building competition for the community would tremendously increase the quality of the tracks, the interest of the community and ammount of tracks created. Something like a monthly/bi-monthly competition where multiple players can collaborate on creating a track, and at the end hold a community poll for the best track, the track is then reviewed for copyright and eventually implemented in the game by the devs. It's a fun concept

This isn't a track-specific bug, but rather something related to layout editor, however i think this is the subforum it fits the best into

Stacking armco is a way to make somewhat realistic looking barriers, but collision doesn't seem to work properly when it's used, tyres can fuse through the horizontal armco bars and hit the posts with catastrophic results, causing heavy damage and catapulting cars into the air, see attached replays. This is not dissimilar to the infamous kerb-tyre bug.



I understand this is not quite an intended way of the objects being used, and i don't suppose it's something that will be readily fixed, but it would be great if it could be addressed. Additionally, maybe it would be worth adding the armco walls as a new layout object eliminating the need for doing things this way?

If LFS had track editor back when AC was also booming with mods maybe then it wouldn't be too much of an issue today. That ship has already sailed though. LFS is unique in it's own way, we can boast about the good old days but that's really what's only left. Not even a track editor can make things work, I'm pretty certain the projects budget and licensing issues will not allow for anything remotely nice. The car mods are a nice addition but honestly most car mods feel like Chinese knock-off cars. It's like playing a game but the mobile version..

This subject is no different than the millions of reallife car mods simply being under a non ip name. Any disicussion foward stating licensing issues is just chopping a steel pole.
we should have the track editor simple as that

Quote from Lekvar012 :

[...] right now we already have quite a few tracks to choose from [...]

IMO a track editor/environment editor could be mainly looked at as a long-term solution to continuously entice people in to LFS. Thousands upon thousands of people pickup sim racing, but only a fraction of that use LFS. Yes, the new content would fragment the existing users somewhat, but surely those who love(d) LFS in the past may be enticed as well, hopefully increasing the daily users.

Quote from rog_nilsson :

Is´nt a "good middle way" to add more stuff to our autocross editor?

Quote from michal 1279 :

Better solution would be to make procedural objects - that way we could keep the object count low while maintaining same/better geometries. [...] This would be amazing but would come at a great cost, as it would require a complete redesign of the layout editor system which is now at the limit of what can be stored in data packets...

Whilst I think improving the layout editor would be a good thing, would the time Scawen spends on it have the same sort of impact as a track/environment editor? Maybe a track editor would be rather constrained, letting you select your own track layout (straights, corners, chicanes, elevation changes etc.) enclosed within a limited area. If something like that could be linked to the layout editor we could all start off with a layout square-like place and build up our tracks. However, the environment editor is more challenging as it would be open world (think rally stages, touges, cities etc.). Maybe only Scawen knows whether a user-made system like that can even be implemented into LFS at all, which raises the question whether the track editor tool that he made for Eric can be brushed up and released to the public?

Considering all that's been going on lately, I don't think we can expect anything of the sort any time soon. As Pukky said, there are some great ideas being shared here.

Quote from rane_nbg :

I wonder what will happen once it has no sources availabe that are written by humans.

Well, the scary part is it wouldn't know what's written by AI or humans. The ChatGPT response I posted would be picked up and would be sourced to other AI software. Imagine all the 'bots' in various platforms and all the misinformation they are programmed to spew? Then again, that's not unlike the garbage/misinformation that some humans constantly come up with.