Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS CS
I've been modelling a gt4 version of the Porsche 718 cayman for 3 days now, based on my other mod. It turns out that I like modelling more than messing around in the LFS editor 
Totally agree with your comment. I myself am not in favor of banning abortion (although I make pro-life arguments). Because I know of cases in history where such bans have led to women dying from self-induced abortions.
The only thing I didn't understand was this sentence. I'll try to argue with that if I get it right.
It is this "simple procedure" that will mean people will die, this is what you yourself said above.
I mean...last time I checked that it means death. And I completely agree with your statement, but it goes against what you say later.
Modern society has normalized human death, and to keep people sane, it's just been given more pretty words like abortion, termination, decimation...etc. But the essence does not change, no matter what you call it, death is death, murder is murder.
No one has an obligation to carry the "child of a piece of shit" If the child is unwanted (such as in the case of rape), the child may be placed in an orphanage or other special services. It's still better than murder, and besides there's a chance that this child will be adopted by another family.
It's better to write about it in improvements and suggestions but I'm upvote this, that's what's missing from a lot of competitions. And taking a car from the pit for this purpose is not convenient.
Changed spoke obj to fit in limits and changed rim obj.
Added new bodykit in new configuration.
Added new bodykit in new configuration.
I checked it and this doesn't explain why:
1. I able to put lod2 in confings that have more then 32k in some mods, but i cant do that in my mod somereason.
2. I have messages of errors that arleady fixed.
3. I cant add Lod2 (about 1k triangles) in duplication mesh of others lod2 or by merging subobject with new lod2 in main config that have only 24k.
I'm not sure where to post, here or in the suggestions but I'm trying to update the drift vers of 400Z, I made a new body kit (in config 5) and a new lod2 for it (pic1), but when I press the button to export the mod for upload, it says that there is no lod2 (pic2). As i get it, it was cuz of the lod2 not in the main, but i cant put lod2 there cuz of the message of 32k limit(pic4), but for config 5 i have only 23k in main (pic3)...but still it not working 
And i remember that i was able to put lod2 in configs that exeeds 32k, cuz i have done it with all my other bodykits and lod2 for it, (i have different lod2 for each of config bodykit) and all others configs have more than 32k, and now i cant do that some reason for config that have less then 32k...
And i have a bunch of errors that i already fixed (pic2), there no errors in modeller and if I press on H it doesn't show any errors. Looks like some bug for me or I did something wrong?
Edit: i checked others mods and yes, i able to put lod2 in confings that have more then 32k, but i cant do that in my mod somereason.
P.S I have 0.7E5 version.
And i remember that i was able to put lod2 in configs that exeeds 32k, cuz i have done it with all my other bodykits and lod2 for it, (i have different lod2 for each of config bodykit) and all others configs have more than 32k, and now i cant do that some reason for config that have less then 32k...
And i have a bunch of errors that i already fixed (pic2), there no errors in modeller and if I press on H it doesn't show any errors. Looks like some bug for me or I did something wrong?
Edit: i checked others mods and yes, i able to put lod2 in confings that have more then 32k, but i cant do that in my mod somereason.
P.S I have 0.7E5 version.
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57k triangles for now, modelling is complete, it will probably still require minor shading corrections and adding logos, but I think the video is already enough.
I didn’t have the opportunity to post yesterday, I worked another 2 days (8 hours) on modelling the mod. Already 48k triangles.
Federal Penitentiary Service: Navalny is dead.
As might be expected.
As might be expected.
Every day it takes 4 hours. So it 12 hours of progress for now. Almost finished with the body, only small parts left such as headlight parts and nameplates. Tomorrow I'll start working on the interior.
4 more hours working on Porsche
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I started making Porsche - https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/107152-Porsche-718-Cayman
Porsche 718 Cayman
The winner of the poll, the Porsche 718 cayman will be made by me. As I promised I will do the stock version first and after that GT4 vers.
I've already spent 4 hours making the model. The progress now is -
This time I'm trying to use polygons more sparingly and it took me about 9k triangles for the whole body without parts. But of course further detailing will be required.
Speedmodeling
I've already spent 4 hours making the model. The progress now is -
This time I'm trying to use polygons more sparingly and it took me about 9k triangles for the whole body without parts. But of course further detailing will be required.
Speedmodeling
My vote was for Aston Martin but it looks like people are more interested in a Porsche, so I will start making one soon.
Ну я тоже сначала думал что расширения нет, но судя по тестам, всё таки есть. Несколько сантиметров, сложно сказать точно. Да и поменять могли.
I'm finishing the body kit, but i'm thinking of making another version of the mod in which I will use this body kit. There are 2 reasons for this.
1 - This body kit is made without widening the body, unlike this version.
2 - The style of Gocha accelerate in the middle angle and catch up with their competitors due to this, and this version of the mod is handled in full lock.
But I can probably also redo this body kit for this version too.
1 - This body kit is made without widening the body, unlike this version.
2 - The style of Gocha accelerate in the middle angle and catch up with their competitors due to this, and this version of the mod is handled in full lock.
But I can probably also redo this body kit for this version too.
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I fixed it, but my tachometer numbers placed a bit different from the texture, so it is still misaligned, but now the revs that are close to the cutoff are more correct. But if you pay attention to the 2,000 rpm, they are in different places.
So Forward Auto in their new video have showed their new Nissan Z body kit from different angles and even partially showed the livery. Well on the basis of this can already make a new version of the body kit for drift Nissan Z, and update the skin. Since I was inspired to create this mod version because the Gocha team is going to do this project soon all this will be in my mod!
Edit: Because the number of possible configurations has been increased to 8, I will probably also make some other body kits in the future.
Edit: Because the number of possible configurations has been increased to 8, I will probably also make some other body kits in the future.
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It's an interesting example, but if we think about it it's not much different from the state of affairs today. It's just that we don't have literal numbers for social credit, (and that's not true for all countries) But it doesn't make much difference. In today's society it is understood that for some actions you can give up your freedom or even your life in some societies, whether we have social credit or not.
That is why all societies have the institution of prison and many societies have the institution of death penalty. Because freedom and life can have its limitations despite the idialogy. Why? Because both of these concepts have no super value that nothing can override. Society intuitively understands that for some actions it is possible to give up these two values. And this has been the case throughout the history of mankind. Even faithful Christians who advocated for the unconditional value of human life denied it through crusades, inquisitions, preventive wars, and wars of conquest against pagans and other small religions. It's sad but this is the reality of things, mankind has been killing each other and depriving each other of freedom for all of history, and since that is still the case today, I have no reason to believe it will ever change as long as we call each other human beings.
Eventually humanity more or less came to the defence of innocent life, which is good. But in my opinion humanity is still not much different from the version of ourselves where murder was considered the norm. We're still just as hypocritical about human life. Which is what this thread is about.
Totally agree with what you said. An innocent human has an intrinsic value that must be protected. But in my opinion what you are saying is in conflict with the original topic of this thread, because you seem to have started an arguing with my argument but have not presented a strong counter argument, I see that you are still looking for your position. And it is right to consider different arguments to get closer to your true position. But as I see it, your position that life has intrinsic value is much stronger than the question of when it begins. If you are not sure about this question, why not be reassured and take the very beginning? After all, we're talking about the most important value we can have.
I completely agree with your analysis of this situation. Indeed, the situation in many countries resembles oceania. Many people in Russia have lived very similar lives to Winston. In many ways, the world of Orwell's dystopia is embodied in Russia, but there are echoes of it in other countries as well.
That's why I have minarchist views. The state tends to expand, increase its powers and keep its power as much as possible. Thus the state always tends to be authoritarian. Good are those models of society that have adopted institutions that oppose state leviathan. Such as the separation of powers. Protection of rights and freedoms. Free carry of weapons. A system of checks and balances. Decentralisation, which implies federalisation and strong municipal power. And all the other things that make government small and weak. But it is important that these institutions are not just on paper, but really work.
I never said a human had extrinsic value. I said that human has fundamental intrinsic value, although he can have extrinsic value, but it is only applicable to other people besides oneself, (because it is unlikely that a person can be extrinsically valuable to himself) and it really depends on the context.
Let me briefly explain the meaning of this extrinsic\intrinsic dichotomy. Every person has things that he or she values extrinsically, such as money. But why do we need money? Because it can be used to buy something (i.e. money is valuable not in itself, but for something else, so money have extrinsic value). For example, you can buy a house. But why do we need a house? And here we can answer for example, to be warm and dry. (i.e. again the house is not valuable in itself so house have extrinsic value) And so on down the chain.
Everyone has a chain of extrinsic values, but the last link of this chain is what is intrinsically valuable. For example, in the case of being warm and dry at home, it is necessary for safety (and safety is already valuable in itself, i.e. intrinsically) People have many different intrinsically valuable concepts, such as happiness, love, honour, etc. and these things are not necessary for anything else, they are important in by themselves. But there is a fundamental intrinsic value that endows all other intrinsic values with the possibility of having value, and that is human life. Because without human life all other intrinsic values would have no meaning. As I said earlier, I believe that a human begins with a zygote, and from that moment a human has fundamental intrinsic value.
I could agree with this if it were not for the fact that it will be more difficult for leaders of societies with similar ideas to survive in the face of conflicts and wars. Or they will have to make strong concessions, which many people may not like and this may cause protests.
Well, yes, in fact, it is precisely because murder is defined by society that we have this situation with abortion. But in turn, society is susceptible to policy change through propaganda, both within a single country and across multiple countries through idialogue mainstream change. And now it is practically convenient for a large percentage of society to have abortions, and there is a clear interest for a large group of society to define it. Imagine what would happen in society if homicidal rapist maniacs defined what is murder. And for example, that if the victim was raped during a murder, it's not murder, but an extreme sextual act. It doesn't work that way now because there are very few homicidal maniacs in society. As with anything other than abortion.
Abortion is unique here because it is the only case where most of society considers it normal, simply because a certain group of people are labelled as not human for various reasons. There are a lot of different and sometimes contradictory versions why is that. It reminds me that if something bad happens related to Russia, the Russian propaganda has a huge number of different versions that often contradict themselves. (for example, they say that Priogozhin was shot down by an American or British missile from an fighter jet, then they say that it was a Ukrainian missile launcher, then they say that he drunkenly blew himself up with a grenade in an aeroplane) They do this to confuse people and take their eyes off from the most obvious version.
Even here we can see the inconsistency of this position because no one has consistent and clear answer as to why people are labelled as non-human, and in particular because of this we have different maximum possible time limits for abortion in different countries, but probably not because there are different answers, but because they don't care about the baby and they care more or less about the mother's life. Although, to be fair, we have similar examples in history when a certain group of people were labelled as non-human and could be killed for this reason, but unlike the Jews and other people in the crimes of the Nazis, unborn people have no voice to stand up for themselves. But for some reason it's considered normal.
This is an extremely positive and open to learning stance. It is a shame that not so many people are as open minded as you are. I really enjoy the dialogue with you. Even though some of our positions don't align. We can find a common ground for constructive dialogue.
I'm not sure Alfie's brain was declared brain dead by the doctors. Because in our country, in this case, doctors declare a person dead. Death comes not from cardiac failure or respiratory failure, but from brain death.
I think if you have an axiomatic position that human life is self-valuable and its value cannot change, then your position on death penalty cannot change because against the death penalty is the only relevant position here.
I just don't have that position because I believe that a human determines his own value by certain actions. Otherwise, what do you say to a suicidal person who wants to die for rational reasons. (For example, a lonely, infirm, immobile old man who is in extreme pain all the time.) That he shouldn't kill himself because his life has intrinsic value? You realise it would make no sense to him at that moment. I believe that a person has the right to live as he want (as long as it doesn't disturb other people) and to die as he want (As long as it's dictated by real rationality and not a momentary emotion.) Although, I can make rational arguments against suicide.
I can also ask you how do you feel about death in wars? How do you feel about mobilising people?
Society in general has a morally normal attitude towards deaths in wars if these deaths are for the defence of one's family, one's home, one's town, one's country.
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