Quote from hayward :

Feel free to continuing to bitch in this thread as you seem so sad that you have to reply almost instantly after me posting, Are you that sad that you sit there refreshing the page until im done posting?

Yesterday, 21:40 #126 -
hayward

Yesterday, 22:13 #128 -
broken (around 30mins after, sure is instantly after you)

Today, 00:49 #129 -
hayward

Today, 01:13 #130 -
broken (again around 30mins)

Today, 01:21 #132 -
hayward (8mins after?)

01:43(22mins.. still couldn't beat your 8mins record, damn) - This reply... I was actually in the forum, because Mikjen told me that he has posted a reply.

And no I'm not bored from this thread, because as soon as I do feel like getting there, I'm going to leave it. As I said - I'm not a masochist. In fact as far as I can remember you are the one who had "Bored " as a status message in msn for like 2 or 3 weeks? So to me it seems right now that you are saying that I have some sort of problems, while you can't prove anything of it, and in the same time it seems like it is, well, really - your problems.

So, if you please stop trying to guess what problems I have, especially going firstly with the ones you're having, because it seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Yeah, I have nothing better to do, so I just sit here and refresh this page waiting for your damn reply... Next time be faster please.

Anyway, on more serious matter(did I just say serious?.. damn!) - Why if it isn't on the same language you say it doesn't contain any of my messy code? If it isn't the same programming language how can you know that my code is messy? Because it is true... The code on the version you have was really really messy, that's why latest osc updates(which are something pretty old already, since it seems like I don't have as much free time as you do to spend it on coding) contained nothing but code optimization. And about the site stats, come on.. We all know that you can parse a txt file with php, and even tho I'm not even that good at php, I still know it.

As for whining about lc, I didn't mean to whine, but maybe I did, I don't know. This thread just makes me laugh more and more, and believe me, I'm laughing at my own replies too. But if you take it so deeply and seriously, then why keep on tracking it? I don't usually keep on reading threads, that I don't find funny and/or usable. After all I'm not a masochist, but, well, that's just me.

No, I'm not jealous and I haven't had my tongue in anyone's ass. Your post just proved once again that you definetly can't be a good person, and hold yourself from personal insults, too bad for you that I never feel affected from your stupid comments. Now at least you have proven to people how immature you really are.

And now can you make up your mind and tell me: Am I a "little c*nt", "little fa**et", an ass licker or a "toilet" (or whatever more there was, I can't remember them all), and I don't know why in most of these sentences you use little tho, maybe you feel big now that you stole a name and a insim and made a server with them. When I read your posts I actually feel like you are smacking your keyboard with spittle coming down from your mouth - overall, I feel like you have lost your mind somewhere on the way, go back and search for it... That's my only suggestion, don't take it if you don't want to.

And to "underline" what you said: "im sure there is another(you said it yourself, don't blame me) great cruise server that will welcome foul mouthed children"

And umm.... If you think that to have friends means to lick their asses, you really need to go out more and meet more people, imo.

Edit: Just saw something... Nice update, and you made a whole news entry for it: http://www.liberty-cruise.co.cc/ (YOU ARE SPEEDING! button). Wow! This is such a great update, it sure deserves a whole news entry! Btw nice screenie, I thought that you are supposed to drive on the right side, actually, but maybe once again - I am missing something..

Last edited by broken, Sun 2 Aug 2009, 19:24.

Yeah... Well it may be, because if lc dies and they wont have their ban hammers anymore, which is soooooo sad... How can someone stop working for their favorite server?! Why would he stop?! That would take away they precious kick and ban commands, that's just terrible, just because of him they will lose all their rights.... No more bans, no more kicks... No more tolerated swearing when you crash into someone while you're a higher rank. Impossible! What will they do now?

They will have to go to the other cruise servers and meet the people they've banned... But afaik(and as far as my mind can think logically) admins from other cruise servers are being told to act mature no matter what has happened outside the server, and I guess they really will be, which will be one more minus for the lc people.

Seems like they just can't move on and take it that Lc will close again.

Quote from The Very End :

I don't understand how you can hate someone that has been kind enough to use time and effort on making a system.. it's just beyound me

Just because he isn't doing it anymore, and they hate him... I can't quite get it either, but oh well, maybe I don't understand something.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Wait, there's a whole forum for this hilarious bullshit? Awesome, I'm going there to read every thread to find more gems like your posts right now.

They have nothing to discuss and they are only trying to make up stuff so they can fill their forums with one more useless thread.

And now all they try to do is blame Azzano62 for their own mistakes, because it will give them the opportunity to make even more threads in the forum. But of course that they will blame him, after all he was the only one making any progress on their insim and now that he's gone they hate him, because there's noone to code the insim.

Imo, this time Lc is drowning, and right now it seems like it's trying to take it's last breathe from the top.

Quote from dmwright :

I'm finding the server appauling. The so called member's don't do anything about the ramming in there or the police, who pull you over for doing 1 mph under the speed limit and book you.

I was also told by a member 'f**k you' and then I was banned. Although im not complaining, the ban was a favour to get me out of there. I'm also finding many peoople beeping there horn's in ques.

On a positive note, it's a good insim. It's got many facilites although it tend's to be laggy, plus the server sometime's loses connection to random players.

I just feel that it need's much more policing, and the member's need to be sorted out. Apart from that, it's very enjoyable and an exiciting server.

Now that post really made me laugh my butt off. Totally +1.

And for matzeNNNN - -OsC- Development is currently up and running... if you want to come, come. But be fast.. will be up for a couple of minutes more and then close. My s**tty bedroom host..

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

The irony in this thread is unreal...



There's only one person on this forum who's made any version of InSim, and that's Scawen. There's no such thing as InSims by the way, there is only one, and only ever can be one (If there was two, it would need a name change. Such as OutSim, or OutGauge).



Yes, well we have had it since patch X. Then again, how does one manage to crash a protocol?

Considering you're all claiming to be expert InSim programmers, surely you'd actually know the difference between InSim and a program that uses the InSim protocol? Seems a rather noobish mistake to me

It's not that, it's just that a program that uses the insim protocol is somewhat known as just insim from most of the forum members, so that's what we all start using.. Just makes it shorter. It's wrong but it's already what's massively used.

And about matze: Either you are hayward's friend or you are just a lc fan... If you see convos between me and hayward on msn you'd realize that it's not only me who's not giving a chance... From one of the last conversations I couldn't understand if I am a "little fa**et" or a "toilet"... I do write to him with sarcasm and irony too, but I don't just go ahead and swear at him, after which i log out.. And about the other thing: When OsC is up you are welcome to come in. When OsR is up you are also welcome to come in, but right now I'd like to have a little break from LFS servers maintaining and coding (especially for dougie :P) programs that use the insim protocol.

Quote from The Very End :

One thing I don't understand... If there is an problem with the insim, that causes users to get insane amounts of money back by some strange reason, why do you punish the users? It's your damn fault that the insim is not working, by your I mean to everyone running the server. Simply take down the server, fix the insim. It's beyound me, and sorry for saying, that anyone can be that retarded that they start banning people because you screwed (you again is all of the server-staff-resonsible whatever) up..
Give warnings and kick the ones that does exploit this failure of a insim, and then fix it. I know that you should not exploit, and I hate exploiters myself, but when you people have a defect system, you should fix it, instead going rampage on the users that maybe accidentally does this bug.

Jezz, what a bounch of kids

What you said is right, but actually the situation is stranger. As far as I understood, Azzano is coding the insim and sending the source to hayward, who after that checks if he "likes" it or not. I know, because I wanted to help Azzano once with the health code(not because of lc, nor because of hayward.... i just wanted to help Azzano as he's a friend and idc for what he is going to use the code for), so I started suggesting of ways to fix the issue, after which I was invited in the lc dev server so I can keep tracking the problem. It seemed like I was sending parts of code to azzano, and he was sending them to hayward, after which I guess hayward was messing with the code, because the code I gave the last time was straight from OsC insim(I had opened my source, cause I couldn't just keep on coming up with code that might be wrong too), and it was a 100% working code, I can guarantee. After hayward had lots of code from me and Azzano(we were both trying to help), he randomly said "(my nickname) - i hate you" and kicked me from the dev server, for which I had LFS opened....

Oh and matzeXYZ - He really was the main insim _coder_ and hayward was the main insim _code changer_... The bugs are not Azzano's fault, as I know how he codes, after all I have seen some other of his projects, and they were all fine. About yesterday... He called me in lc, yes, then he placed a password on it, yes - What's wrong about that? Maybe you are sad now, because there is no insim coder and hayward is going to ruin Lc as he did with CC? I am 90%(90, because, who knows... hayward's PC engineering diploma may code the insim for him) sure that now when Azzano is not in the Lc staff the insim is going to get worse and worse, and when it's bad enough, lc is going to start dying again, just as happened with CC.

And for Amynue's post: +1

Quote from sion92 :

// How to use: LFS /cfg=setup.cfg
// Lines starting with // are ignored
// host name
/host=Testing !
// optional: password
//pass=password
// optional: admin password
//admin=xxxxxx
// optional: InSim port
//insim=29969

Thanks to Mikjen for making me re-read your setup I can tell you how it has to be done. Look at the end of my post, please.

Quote from MariusMM :

To me that setup looks OK. Could you take a shot of the error messages you get?

Does it?
What error messages? Isn't it obvious? :P The insim just can't "hear" anything on that port..

Quote from Mikjen :

did u type /insim 29969 as well, before starting the insim program
?

If you didn't actually ask this I wouldn't go to check over the setup file again, so they should thank you.

So how it should actually be done.

Quote from sion92 :

// How to use: LFS /cfg=setup.cfg
// Lines starting with // are ignored
// host name
/host=Testing !
// optional: password
//pass=password
// optional: admin password
/admin=xxxxxx
// optional: InSim port
/insim=29969

Do that and if you haven't messed with anything you'll be fine. Once again - If it wasn't Mikjen's reply I wouldn't even check this thread.

Last edited by broken, Thu 30 Jul 2009, 22:22.

I suggested something like this, but it seems like noone had what to say. Here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=53419

So +6548465421635484(this number was achieved from very complicated calculations, involving much variables and very complicated formulas) from me.

Quote from XCNuse :

What about sleep/hibernate/system off and you get back on and your car is missing?

That should be when you pit/spec? And when you join race you have only wheels (happened to me once to have only wallpaper and a few parts of the task-bar after hibernation -.-)?

Quote from CSU1 :

*Updated* , which means the OS is now 0.000001beta

0.000001 is my favorite number .....until the next version of the OS is released.

Last edited by broken, Tue 28 Jul 2009, 00:29. Reason : Cause I can!!

Quote from uttoro :

The bug still exists.

On Kyoto National, it's still faster to shift in reverse after entering pits to do the drive-thru penalty instead of driving along the 1 mile long pitlane.

Bumping after one year again.
I was just going to report this bug, but I did my homework first and used "the unfindable feature called search".

This bug needs sorting out, imo. And if it can be added to any insim for less than 20minutes, then it shouldn't be too hard to do originally too, imo.

This silly little thread has the potential of becoming a serial killer.

Just... stop with the useless flaming of "XXX is only spamming" and etc.. I do believe that Shadow did explain the situation in some of the 1st posts, and no matter if the information was false or not(I do not say either one), it still was not spam. But every post saying "All XYZ is doing is spamming"(or similar), personally I think is spam, since you can't really prove it, and even if most of his posts are spam(not saying they are) this still isn't "all he is doing". And if only thing you have seen from him is spam then you really are doing something wrong and that is - not reading all replies before replying yourself with some argumentless(is there such a word? xD) messages. Didn't mean to offend anyone.. That's just my point of view.

Edit 1: Gah, this thread made me forget why I came into this forum in 1st place. Going to make my dt penalty bug report now.
Edit 2: Someone already reported it.

Last edited by broken, Mon 27 Jul 2009, 20:57.

Quote from CSU1 :

+ Emptying of thrash will be done by carring out a pit maneuver on the slowest driver

+ close all apps - knok all cones down

+ Delete - crash into

+ Logout - roll car over

+ Shut down - Crash 150mph into brick wall

:lovies3d:

PS: Didn't you mean "format HD" on the last one? :P

Last edited by broken, Mon 27 Jul 2009, 21:15.

Quote from Ales_M :

u sure?

Shush!

-OsT- Old skool Team is currently looking for testers for our insims. Currently we are working on a racing insim, and there is a project of a cruise one which is left behind. After racing insim is finished and cruising has some more progress we will be starting to work on a drift one. If you are interested just reply to this thread or even better - Make a new thread in thcforums.

Currently looking for testers for racing insim. Don't have doubts if you want to join - we won't eat you, and we won't expect you to stay in the server if you don't want to. Preferred time zone - GMT+2 or something close. I will say it again - Don't doubt it if you want to join, we are normal people, just like you.

Quote from WheelMan_92 :

Well, in my mind it's easy to make at least.
My ideas is to open the barriers on some tracks, to make more option for cruisers - turn left or right and stuff.

I know you dont regullarly(spelling?) make dedicated cruise-options, but i cant se why this will be to time-consuming - would be pure awesome on / for the cruise servers.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Because that would be pretty stupid of them since it says: "LFS - Online Racing Simulator".

Quote from Krane :

This is not just for cruisers, it's for those making AutoX layouts, those making trial/offroad layouts, those who want make their own configs of the available track area - I would have made AS Greenhorn config ages ago but can't, because of this limitation.

Quote from broken :

[...]When someone makes a suggestion then for the sake of the community - Don't look what the suggestion was made for... Just look at the suggestion itself and try to find some use of it in your favorite type of using the game.[...]

Quote from zeugnimod :

[...]I'm just pointing out that in my opinion (which I am entitled to, as you said yourself), there shouldn't be made any "improvements" made specifically for cruising since LFS is a racing sim in the first place.

Now there are a few sentences put together. And tell me if I'm wrong but in the most of your posts you say "it would be stupid from the cruisers" but never mention if it would be stupid for the racers. Just re-read this. I have nothing further to say. I can add more quotes to this post, tho, but if you go and read the thread again you will find out that some of us said that this suggestion will be good not only for the cruisers, but for almost all types of the game(or maybe even all? can't say)... And then in one of the last posts you say again "there shouldn't be made any "improvements" made specifically for cruising since LFS is a racing sim in the first place." Now I find that a little offensive to the OP, because you just don't stop repeating it over and over again. So then I was right in one of my posts... There is no use of typing all this, since it will be forgotten or it won't be read at all, and you just won't stop repeating the "is a racing sim" sentence. I mean, how hard could that be? Or is it? Is it that hard? You say that you don't come to "bash" people and in the next moment you throw the racing sim hammer. I don't know, seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Actually everything after the 1st paragraph was overall speak. And I didn't use the word hate literally.

As for if it would be stupid from a cruiser to start a thread named "racing is stupid" or whatever name you want - Yes it will... If it would be senseless - Yes it will be. But doesn't the same mean for thread named "cruising sucks"? I would find it really senseless and stupid too. And in both threads I'd be against the OP, since all he would bring would be just more chaos in the forums(nothing new under the sun tho). Racers insulting cruisers is as stupid as cruisers insulting racers, because it is all a matter of taste.

I don't think that it's right to race and I don't think it's wrong to cruise. But I don't think otherwise either. I think that if you play a game and you like it you should get a + from other people playing that very same game, no matter if you play it in different ways. I would find it stupid from a cruiser to start cruising in a race server, yes! But what's the problem if there are servers designated specially for cruising?

Also from this suggestion, you looked at the thread name and maybe thought it's time to reproach once more that this is a racing sim, which makes me feel like you're telling the guy that this suggestion has to be rejected, because it's labeled for cruising(imo this takes the right of own opinion away from the OP). Think on the other side - Racers will be able to race on many different variations of the track, drifters can make longer routes with less objects. I find it good for the most of the community.

And I'm still -1 for this suggestion as other improvements have to be applied first, and definetly not, because "this is a racing sim".

Quote from sinanju :

Maybe bigger pc screen? Or sit closer to screen? Glasses? Laser vision surgery?

I didn't really get that, could you explain it?
And also if you could explain how was that helpful, I'd be grateful.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Because that would be pretty stupid of them since it says: "LFS - Online Racing Simulator".

This is so banal already that I'm instantly getting bored when I read it more and more times. So because it is a racing insim people that use it for other types of activities can't have their own opinion? Imagine a racer opening a thread saying cruise is stupid - Would bring as much arguments as a thread from a cruiser saying racing is stupid. Now imagine a drifter saying that cruise is stupid? That would bring even more chaos, since racers will come in flaming both - drifters and cruisers and it will be an endless fight. When someone makes a suggestion then for the sake of the community - Don't look what the suggestion was made for... Just look at the suggestion itself and try to find some use of it in your favorite type of using the game.

And please stop with this "LFS - Online Racing Simulator". I mean, are we blind? I don't think so. I also believe that almost every LFS driver has seen the lfs logo so, please, if not stop repeating it then at least find another line that's not "this is a racing sim" either.

Why do you hate cruisers/drifters? They kill racing? No... They just increase the population in LFS. Looking on the other side if more cruisers buy this race sim then maybe this means that racers aren't doing much to keep the interest in racing. I'm not either a racer or a cruiser or a drifter or w/e. I actually like all sides of the game and I don't like it when some people are trying to be cool, just because they are proud of their taste? I'd say that's selfish. But that's just me.

...And I don't know why I keep on writing these posts, knowing that even if you read it you will either flame me or won't even remember this after 2mins... Maybe I'm hoping on a miracle. Or is it too much I want? I don't think so... A few saved "this is a racing sim" posts wouldn't cost you much. They would even save you time from endless and useless fights. Don't you think?

I'm thinking of making it so if you win 3 (or more) times in a row you can chose how many laps the next race will be but from 1 to 5. And in the next race the laps will be set back to default. And to say the obvious: If you win 4 times in a row, yes laps will be set back to default, but yes you can change them again.

This is just my idea that I think would be good, and even if we agree on it, it will take some time to code. Also I just want to note that random car button exists and also picks intake rest. and added mass if they are enabled. Anyway I also have to say that I didn't have time to finish it last night. Something in the random pick method was wrong and I had to disable the button so the insim doesn't crash. Hope it'll be done today.

Quote from PoVo :

Why have a Cruise war? Just play in the server you like and not post on the forum saying "FAKE" etc... I do stick up with LTC tho the fact they got banned by some officer, yes LTC said that they have a thread about us, and yes LC said LTC sucks too, but the banning thing is what i hate so i think thats unfair. Then again Broken wrecking the cruise is another thing, he brakes something on purpose then comes here and says the server is shite... I dont get it, you have been coding your insim for like 8 months and there is literaly nothing done, its not even running, all you have is a DEV server, and you say this new LC is crap??? I dont get it. Well anyways, i believe the new LC wont die soon.... And Cruisers play where ever you want! dont just come here and say oh thats crap and so on.

"literaly nothing done" - How would you know? Have you seen the source? You come here and moan that I say that this server has nothing done on it and in the same time you say the same about me.

I agree, I got the forum insim and in these 8 months or no matter how much they are I was learning on it. But the insim is almost fully recoded, a lot optimized and it has many many more functions right now that are there just for good code arrangement or for optimization. If you are so good go ahead and make a better insim in less time. You have a lot of time. That's 8 months to beat, shouldn't be hard, seeing the way you type, you must know a lot about coding already.

And also I thought that we all have the right of our own opinion. I thought that after all this topic is to share your opinion. Just stick with Lc and don't worry about seeing me around.

And, Heiko, I totally agree with you there. For the 1st time we have the same opinion on something.

Last edited by broken, Thu 23 Jul 2009, 14:24.

Someone closed the server one the vps, I guess.... New name: -OsM- Stunt Server
I will load the layout in a few mins.

Aww, my eyes :Eyecrazy:.... Why was I even so stupid to read all this... :doh: