Suggest a price for this project of yours. 
Yes, bugs. How are bugs not related to the process of development?
@TVE: Not really, no.
Good guess tho!
@TVE: Not really, no.
Good guess tho!
I never saw the word "your own game" in the quote.
It's true tho - if you don't like it - do something about it, instead of moaning.
This is how it goes:
Can't make a game like LFS => You don't have enough knowledge to know what it takes => You can't possibly know what could go wrong => You don't know how much time it may take => You have absolutely no right to moan, about it being slow.
I completely agree with the "make your own game" nevertheless. Why? Because, I'm pretty sure that 99% (not to say 100) of the moaners can't make a game like LFS and keep updating it at the same pace. And imagine how demotivational it would be if a few hundred or thousand people were moaning at you, while you were making this update for them. Tell me, how would this help you? It would cause the same reaction - Stop reading your own forum, so you can concentrate and do what you have to do, instead of wasting your time writing replies or progress reports(in which, by the way you get mostly hate for reporting, but not releasing .. after all these same people were moaning that you were not giving any reports on the situation).
No matter how many times this has been said, and in how many different ways - it is true. Going like "not this again" means that you have no arguments to beat it. Therefore - you are doing nothing but moaning.
Yes... A person, who thinks that everyone should obey him + a programmer who is still at the start of learning the language, let alone programming a whole insim application.
That would make a very good server.
@E.Reiljans:
1. I was just fooling around
. Plus -you never said literally from scratch. These days, "from scratch" can mean many different things. 
2. I can't make an application from scratch that outputs Hello world either. I need VS's headers. I can modify them. But writing them - no thanks - after all, that's what VS is there for.
3. Sorry for the late reply. I just didn't want to contribute to this thread anymore, because I didn't like where it was going. But, well, it got bumped now.
It is a public forum.
That would make a very good server.
@E.Reiljans:
1. I was just fooling around
. Plus -you never said literally from scratch. These days, "from scratch" can mean many different things. 2. I can't make an application from scratch that outputs Hello world either. I need VS's headers. I can modify them. But writing them - no thanks - after all, that's what VS is there for.
3. Sorry for the late reply. I just didn't want to contribute to this thread anymore, because I didn't like where it was going. But, well, it got bumped now.
It is a public forum.
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Reason : I said cruise app.. Nobody mentioned cruise.. -.-
Or in this case - buttons.
Yep, splitting the buttons is a good solution. May I suggest once again a solution. When I started doing the base of my insim app, I posted it in the Spark thread. It has a button queue too.
Link: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1520803#post1520803
Or you might just steal the button queue from that and use it, if you don't want to use Spark.
Go explain that to the insurance company..
Suggestion: Translate the error. That way, people will have a better idea of what's going on.
Otherwise - I'd suggest using Spark too. But that's your choice, of course.
And, just wanted to say that I like this help request. No need to ask for code/language/used base. Just.. don't mind my nonsense.
[E]:
"Otherwise i need alot of Buttons."
Hint: Make a timer or something, and send them to some sort of a queue.. OR just find another way to send them with a delay (10ms between each button should be enough, I think). Sending too many buttons to a person at once might, and most likely will cause them to lose connection. Been there, done that - wasn't nice.
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Isn't this the same thing I did?
Just copy the whole CompCar, and not the values one by one. <-- Think that's the problem(or ..solution), since the errors are thrown on these specific lines.
+1. I'd like to see that too.
Same should be applied for S1 users too, tho (only S1 tracks, obviously).
And later on, for S2 (only S2 tracks).
etc...?
A part of my clsUser.cs :
That's working without a problem.
In my MCI handler, I just do (rough code): User.CompCar = MCI.CompCar.
[E] Real MCI handler code:
Yeah, I've given it a bit of LFS_External look, because that does the trick for me. ;d
Hope that helps.
private CompCar _compcar = null;
public CompCar CompCar
{
get { return _compcar; }
set { _compcar = value; }
}That's working without a problem.
In my MCI handler, I just do (rough code): User.CompCar = MCI.CompCar.
[E] Real MCI handler code:
private void Received_MCI(IS_MCI MCI)
{
int NumC = MCI.NumC;
for (int i = 0; i < NumC; i++)
{
CompCar CC = MCI.CompCars[i];
clsUser U = Users[getUserIdxByPLID(CC.PLID)];
U.CompCar = CC;
}
}Yeah, I've given it a bit of LFS_External look, because that does the trick for me. ;d
Hope that helps.
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@PoVo: Just set it to null (if I'm guessing right on what you're trying to do that is)?
This thread, you are posting in. Is news.
Yes, to be straight, with no smart assing (aka arguments): What you are saying, is pointless. Happy now?
Please don't post in the forums during your period, then. Thank you.
And, please, stop using the word "we". It's you.
Shut up, OR at least speak for yourself only.
I don't care that you're here from 2005. Start doing your homework if you're so bored.
It's not rage. It's capitalized bolded text, to make sure this exact part stands out the most in my post.
Sorry to be rude. I've only read the start and the end of the post. Six days aren't enough to learn even the basics of any programming language. Maybe you can learn how to make windows forms, and make buttons interact with other stuff. But for a system, sophisticated like that (I saw "buttons, buttons, buttons", which pretty much means full gui, I guess), you need years. 1st year to learn. 2nd year to realize that everything you've wrote in the 1st year is crap, and needs to be rewritten, so it can be cleaner and faster. And by adding laziness to it, there goes the 3rd year.
If you don't want to go through all that, just suggest a price, be ready to pay much, and wait to see who will get to the project. Note: Anything under 100 euro is too cheap, and will probably be done from someone, who is still in the 1st year. There are exceptions to that rule of course, but I can not guarantee. Heck, even 200euro is a bit cheap for it. A normal price for a sophisticated and well optimized system like that would be something like 400euro, imo.
And when you add all the things you never mentioned, which will piss off the developer(the most common situation in this business), it can get even higher.
But then again, since you don't seem serious, you can get someone who is still learning to do it for you for free. Then, he will do nothing, you will be running an empty cruise server, and after a month or 2 you will get bored and stop it.
How to start learning exactly insim app developing - get a base from the Libs and Tools section, and start tweaking it. You can get any open source cruise project too.
It's all there.
The whole internet is waiting for you to make your choice. Google will deliver millions of results on the basics of any famous programming language. LFSForum has more than a few open source insim app bases, in many different languages.
If you don't want to go through all that, just suggest a price, be ready to pay much, and wait to see who will get to the project. Note: Anything under 100 euro is too cheap, and will probably be done from someone, who is still in the 1st year. There are exceptions to that rule of course, but I can not guarantee. Heck, even 200euro is a bit cheap for it. A normal price for a sophisticated and well optimized system like that would be something like 400euro, imo.
And when you add all the things you never mentioned, which will piss off the developer(the most common situation in this business), it can get even higher.
But then again, since you don't seem serious, you can get someone who is still learning to do it for you for free. Then, he will do nothing, you will be running an empty cruise server, and after a month or 2 you will get bored and stop it.
How to start learning exactly insim app developing - get a base from the Libs and Tools section, and start tweaking it. You can get any open source cruise project too.
It's all there.
The whole internet is waiting for you to make your choice. Google will deliver millions of results on the basics of any famous programming language. LFSForum has more than a few open source insim app bases, in many different languages.
To the moaners(the ones without any valid points, and/or knowledge) - Stop doing it, it's not helping anybody. It's not even going to calm you down, it's just going to get deeper, until you finally explode in megabullshit. Have you not got that already?
To the demoers wanting content: I guess you haven't really started to get into the real world yet. REALIZE IT - TOILET PAPER IS PAID, WHY WOULD LFS BE FREE, THEN? DUH DUH DUH!
To the demoers wanting content: I guess you haven't really started to get into the real world yet. REALIZE IT - TOILET PAPER IS PAID, WHY WOULD LFS BE FREE, THEN? DUH DUH DUH!
I think I have to agree. We need something like lfswhineforum.net
Anyway, while talking about development, I want to steal a bit of your time, and say that I support TVE's (hope I can call you that too, since The Very End is a bit long to type :razz
wish - rallypack! Would be an awesome gift for the next christmas. (plus maybe, increasing grip on blackwood ramps, because that would be awesome too :shyAnd... to be on topic(?) - thanks for the progress report. Hope the further testing turns out nice, because I'm sure there have been more than a few head-bangs on this (duh, learning multithreading and basic C++ (separately) is taking me more time).
Finally, as for the person, who asked who needs the technical info, and said that it is useless - I find it quite interesting. It is not, by any means, unneeded. I love all those techy stuff in the reports.
I realize that this thread is quite entertaining, and I'm enjoying it too to some extent. But for the sake of the lfs forum community as a whole, we should let it die, imo. 
And that reply was so mature.
P.S. Didn't you hate cruise servers? And if so, how do you know that, then?
They are mostly a matter of personal taste.
However, I am in no way obligated to give you reports.
Then go shut down their hosting machines. Or just start producing more quality racing servers. Racing servers are even worse than cruise ones atm, maturity-wise. <-- One of the reasons I don't even bother to go to race servers anymore.
Stop talking, start acting.
Child and kid insults back in fashion again? Just make you look silly, imo. But then again, what do I know...
We can see those silly remarks even without your "help".
Just leave them uncommented. It will have a better overall effect, imo.
Host refused connection = ban.
Sorry.
Write in their forums(if there are such) maybe?
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