Last edited by Calvinaquino, Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:18.

I haven't seen it before, but i saw the Other one with a Impreza.
GRID is the title of the movie, not one i choose, i was just speculating the reason
Even so, it still rocks.

Got my vote, good luck!
Funny thing i saw a video about catching a drift in brands hatch by 2 different ways...Before entering this thread... it was you driving one of the cars right?=D

"Live GRID (the game) - Got Skills"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndoF7j7QrNU&feature=fvsr
By "live GRID" i think he is comparing the way the guy does the corners heh =P

OMAGAWD thats House????

i knew.

Mercado Livre sells it for 1000~, Six months ago i was about to buy one =/
But i think ill start low, maybe with the DFP. Or i can wait for the G25 prices to go down, since they released the G27, and it is only 10% better (six buttons but no more sequentian shifter... What they had in mind??)

@Velociround: Great post. LFS is made simple and versatile, hence all the languages it can be translated, all the device it can comunicate, and Scawen's pursuit of a stable sim on ANY OS.

@PjFerreira: Well, i can't really say much about it, i've never run a trackday, the nearest i got to real racing was some kart (RD 135) racing i did with some friends. I think i meant racing that,You're pushing whatever 4 wheeled vehicle to it's limits, despise it's specs.
But damn, more than R$1000 for a day... may be worth, but not at the moment for me

Ops! There goes the realism!

Quote from Velociround :

(Sum good stuff)

+1
can i drive it too?

Don't you mean, 400 USD to Really race? =D
Interlagos is more than that right?

And yea, Mouse has no aids, and still we have to be ultra tripple carefull with the pedals...

So in a motorcycle sim (like GP Bikes) who can afford, drive with a 360 controller. That means it's not a sim? or realistic? BAN THE CONTROLLER USERS! i would like to see a small and realistic bike controller.

LFS is not perfect. Crash physics, the tire physics. and some other things.
Well i guess if you're looking for the perfect simulator, well why don't just buy a car and go drive somewhere? there aren't mouse drivers there. Some people drive with mouse not because they like, but because the can't afford/use a wheel at that time. You can bet that soon enough ill buy my DFP, and yes i'd rather drive LFS with a wheel than with a mouse...
Whell, why don't you create your own sim racing game and do better? Ban the mouse users!
Hell why do i even bother, you're just another annoying person.

The Heart Of Fire - Innerpartysystem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnNn2wkJMQ0

I strongly advise you guys to check it out.

Quote from tristancliffe :

The loss of grip in LFS and in real life is very gradual, but in real life tyres do tend to regain grip quite suddenly, which is this snappy thing you refer to, and LFS is a little to relaxed on that front. I've found that in LFS once you start sliding it's actually quite difficult to end that slide even if you've got it 99.9999% corrected. In real life you correct it about 90% and the 'snap' does the rest...

That is the reason why Drifting is easier than normal in lfs.

Just because LFS is very versatile you think it feels like NFS?
That's bs. My wheel is broken and at the moment i dont have money to buy another, so im mousing. It's not bad. And by seeing that there is cruising and drifting show this is a very open game, due to the physics. So thats actually a good thing.

Quote from aoun :

Check the credits when you exit LFS. theres a list of the beta testers there.

Unless there is also written what they do, i think he meant, how much the beta-testers know to be able to judge the new physics. I bet Scawen didn't picked up any person who volunteered (is it right?) to be. I think he picked people with a background (physics related, racing related).

Great post android, now i unserstand better what is happening and what to expect.
This is going to be a helluva patch...

I never (and maybe wont ever) drove in iRacing, but i just drove a few laps in GPL and i noticed the tires loose traction in a more smooth way. So from what i read, people say that GPL was one of the most realistic sims out there (some say it still is), and i can't say anything about Iracing, but what i'm understanding is that this tire physics rework will make the load/traction curve of the tire more smooth?

I hope i made any sense, its 4a.m. here and i'm with a small headache... gotta go to bed.

PS: when i think about all the equations and variables involved in it... I don't know how Scawen's head hasn't already exploded by the amount of stuff he has to research/write/look at. =D

Don't forget:
Tunning, Bumpers, Engine levels 1 to 3, suspension levels 1 to 3...
and stickers. Like NOS. Makes u go faster.

Last edited by Calvinaquino, Thu, 3 Sep 2009 02:28.

I don't know if you guys want a physics oriented book, or a driving technique oriented book, so heres one i found some months ago, its kind of old, but its very good...
I hope im not breaking any rule attaching it:

Amazing news, this actually puts the sirocco in second place on the priority for us (since new tyre physics means almost different cars)
But as someone posted before, can't wait for some kind of side by side comparisson between the old and new tyre physics... damn us physics freaks.

Quote from wild :

Going Find Your Soul

4 Letters: ITSD

Inner Testicle Seems Dead

PCOD

Quote from BlueFlame :

Bend unit kart, kick it tenaciously

FAGG

For A Greater Good (not funny heh)

LCND

Quote from BlueFlame :

Bend unit kart, kick it tenaciously

FAGG

For A Greater Good (not funny heh)

LCND

Quote from Velociround :

I completely agree with that. One of the first elements in Live for Speed that made me instantly love LFS was that I could turn the steering wheel all the way.

I second that. Same thing with me here, and i found LFS in a lan house while waiting for some friends... (Result: i spend half the time playing lfs and listening "Comeon dude, lets play DotA")

Back on topic, i don't know why they still keep with this 1/4 turning shit. Grid makes me think that the steering wheel actually represents the gamepad angle while turning, other that the real wheel direction... But still i like grid, its fun and you can blow stuff up.

As someone pointed out, yes it was a Brazilian driver Rafael Sperafico that tragically died in Interlagos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22ZuPzogxU
After going out of the track on the last turn, he hit the wall and was launched back spinning at the track, thats when Renato Russo's car hit him at about 200km/h at the driver's side.
That is the strongest crash ever in that category...

What i see when i watch both videos (Carlos Pardo and Rafael Sperafico) is that both cars disintegrate almost the same way.

PS: Rafael Sperafico died instantly, while i belive Carlos Pardo died minutes after.

And about the FIA, i know that they can't ban the circuits, but they can NOT allow the circuit to host a specific racing category. Every year (or every 6 months i think) they send engineers to the tracks to check for security and other things, after the review, they will determine if the track is able to host any kind of race. (correct me if im wrong)

Last edited by Calvinaquino, Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:28.