Some media for those interested. Haven't found a video of the full lap yet.

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor- ... ecord-20110322-1c4tm.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqUKLBwBtrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7R73cQ6lo

"A modern Formula One car will race around Australia’s fabled undulating circuit for the first time next week as part of the build-up to the Melbourne Grand Prix. V8 Supercars driver Craig Lowndes and 2009 F1 champion Jenson Button will both pilot a McLaren MP4-23 F1 racer at Bathurst on Tuesday 22nd March, covering several laps before switching to a Commodore touring car."


http://smh.drive.com.au/motor- ... hurst-20110316-1bx22.html

All I can say is -

(It's been very wet in these parts lately though. Hopefully it won't be ruined by rain)

Quote from dadge :

if you'd like to show me where i made these assumptions, i can always show you (again) where i got the info from.

Sure. I've listed some of your baseless assumptions below, and I'll look forward to seeing your no doubt, inane response as to where you got your info from.
I'll even give you the last say, so that this thread can be released to the rest of the forum users.
See ya...

Some of the baseless assumptions made by Dadge:

• That I think the current LFS version is unplayable.
  
• That I blame LFS for my current lack of sim activity.
  
• That I blame LFS for my unwillingness to compromise and play something else while I wait.
  
• That I am or aren't interested in the BF1 and FBM.
  
• That I will still be bored when the patch is released.
  

Quote from dadge :

you still don't see what i'm getting at? just remember this thread for when the patch is released and you're still bored.
you might also want to learn what a rant is.

I have no idea what you're getting at.
Why can't I be bored of LFS's current content, yet still like it?
Why have you made another baseless assumption that I'll be bored after the patch is released.
You're boring me though.

Quote from dadge :

you said LFS has everything you want in a sim but yet you don't play it? and are you sure an update will keep you interested? for how long? for as long as the FBM? or maybe for as long ans the BF1? you also said your in the same place as the OP. do you remember the OP saying "I miss playing LFS, but I find it's current state boring"? you being the at the same place as the OP would suggest that you too are bored with LFS in its current state and that you also miss playing LFS.
maybe you should have a think about what you're going to say before you contradict yourself any further.

The problem with your arguement is that you've made a bunch of baseless assumptions about me. How do you know how long the FBM or BF1 kept me interested for. You don't even know if they interest me at all?
I haven't contradicted myself at all.
Either you don't know what contradiction means, or you still don't understand (yet you still rant).

Quote from dadge :

that doesn't make sense dude. LFS is everything you want in a sim, but you're not playing it any more because you're waiting on the patch? what made this version of LFS so unplayable?

The physics update and more content will rekindle my interest. What doesn't make sense exactly?
Where did I say this version is unplayable?

Quote from dadge :

what you do (or don't do) while you wait for the patch has absolutely nothing to do with LFS. you can't blame LFS for your lack of sim activity when there's still users on the servers racing. you can't blame LFS for your unwillingness to compromise and play something else while you wait. so, imo, you should either play something else, or keep playing LFS in its current (or S1) state.

I not blaming anyone for anything. I'm not even complaining about anything.
I'm a huge fan of LFS, who's just waiting for the updates before I get back in to it.
You should make sure you understand what you read before you rant about it.

Last edited by farcar, Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:30.

Quote from imthebestracerthereis :

I did not miss his point. He is stating



so I gave him some options.

You just blurted out a list. Where did he say he was looking for an alternative sim?

I am in the same place as the OP.
LFS is far and away the best sim for my wants and needs. The alternatives aren't suitable, so I'm not sim racing at the moment while I wait for the patch.

Quote from Bose321 :

But when you turn your devices off, there wouldn't be any LEDS. You have your stuff in standby mode.

I feel you're reading too much in to it. It's not a hard concept to follow, really.

Granted though, that the Xbox is not actually on standby. :shy:

Turn your lights and devices off and take a pic:

From left to right:
Sub woofer
Xbox controller
RROD Xbox
Amplifier
TV
Media Streamer

Quote from imthebestracerthereis :

iRacing
rFactor
netKar Pro
X Motor Racing

Pick one.

You're really missing the guy's point.

I can't understand why people still get so hung up on the Scirocco.
It will add about 5% to LFS's value.

Tyre physics and another track environment (and the TBA mystery car) might add 30%.

The only reason the Scirocco will be remembered, is that it opened up the physics 'can of worms' and lead to the delays in overall development.

In summary: Scirocco = insignificant.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

in forthcome actuality contain update in 2011 year. armband of lfs will rain born forever as high sim actual.

The old 'type something and then run it through a translator multiple times until it no longer makes sense' trick hey?

Sooooo 2008.

Quote from Macfox :

Irrelevant and off topic. I made my point and few would give a hoot about some loose definition to justify your contradictory remarks.

Just be dismissive and claim irrelevance, without addressing the point, then claim that everyone agrees with you.

An empty, yet predictable response.

Quote from Macfox :

Seriously?



illepall

There's an important difference between speculation and a baseless assumption. The difference is further magnified when context is taken in to account. Go and look up those words and you'll have learnt something today.

illepall etc.

Quote from Macfox :

Given this revelation, it would be reasonably safe to say there won't be anything new that wasn't announced, so you really have to ponder whether the pending small content update will be enough to keep the LFS afloat.

Personally I don't think it will be enough. When we eventually see the patch, we'll see a spike/flood of old players return for a month. They'll try out the one new track/car and the new physics and shelve it again, as the reality is that the physics updates aren't going to radically change the appeal of the existing tracks. And the blaring fact is LFS won't survive another 3 years of content stagnation. Lets hope in light of the admission, they decide to develop/release some more fictitious cars/tracks that won't be subject to the physics updates and breath some desperately needed life into the community.

This is really just a massive assumption followed by more assumptions about the first assumption.
All baseless too.

At this point, I feel a bit sorry for Scawen having to be the sole public face of development.

Scawen's focus is clearly on tyre physics, and I belive he's conveyed the current situation very well in this regard.

Putting all past events aside for the moment, I'd personally love to hear from Eric and get some info on what's being developed content-wise. No promises or timelines or even necessarily screenshots.

I'm happy to wait for however long it takes, but just some info on content would be awesome, and I feel would appease some of the more vocal moaners.

Quote from Be2K :

Nope here is the reason why they didnt show us any pics.

But what is the content of that... erm... content?
That is the squilleventy million dollar question.

Revamped graphics, I speculate!

Quote from Amynue :

Victor should make a video of Scirocco with new tyre at Rockingham using his LFS Record. That would visualise Dec 2010 Progress Report

I had a think about why they haven't done this.
Any videos or screenies would render all fanboys (and maybe some fanboys posing as moaners) moist as hell. Seems like a no brainer.

The only reason I could come up with as to why they haven't, is this:

• A secret overhaul of graphics is in progress.
  

Last edited by farcar, Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:28. Reason : typo

Quote from PMD9409 :

If you were a demo racer at this very point in time, would you buy S2, and why?

Absolutely.
I reckon S2 was awesome value when I purchased it more than 5 years ago, and is considerably improved now. This is my opinion totally regardless of what may or may not happen in the future.

There maybe some valid points to criticise LFS on, but 'poor value' has never been one of them. When you compare it's price to the average mass distributed PC or console game, it's fantastic value. I've never understood why people (especially people from western economies) think otherwise.

Quote from Lance Uppercut :

Too little too late

We all heard and ignored you the first time.

Well, these are my thoughts on Scawen's post. In no particular order:

Glad - to finally hear something from the dev team.
Reassured - that they still see a 'long term future' for LFS.
Appreciative - of Scawens technical document about tyres.
Disappointed - that there is still no specific news about new content. I can understand that it's hard to be specific with 'news' when experimenting with tyre physics, but it shuld be possible (and desirable) to show off progress on upcoming content and graphical updates.

Merry Christmas to all - really looking forward to the new LFS!

Quote from Tomrius :

Hi All LFS Players

And hello to you sir!

Sad news.
He contributed to Australian motorsport both as a driver and a team owner, so I'll remermber him.

R.I.P.

Quote from The Moose :

New look at the upcoming "Classic GT" car. Confirmed for release before Christmas

That's a game seller for me right there. Will fill the LFS waiting void quite nicely. Thanks for posting.

LFS needs a class like this.
One day.... one day.

Quote from cardriverx :

every few weeks I check on the forum, every few weeks its the same crap.

For god's sake, give us SOMETHING!!

Yep... that'll help.