I figured out where Boris is getting all of his awesome info: http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/category/forza-3/

Kind of pathetic that someone would put that much effort into flaming titles....

Quote from SamH :

I'm on the Atkins diet at the moment.. quarter pound burgers with mature cheddar cheese. No bun, no mayo, no ketchup, no fries.

It feels like a new patch is imminent. But then I've been wrong before, more than once.

Didn't think you'd actually answer that question, haha!

We've all tried to predict when the patch(es) are going to be released and we're all always wrong but it's usually worth the wait and there's usually something more than what's been announced...we'll just have to wait and see what happens!

Quote from SamH :

I think you could be waiting a long time on that response. The neon/body kit/chav-wear joke's been done to death before

Oh, I know. I've been hanging around for quite some time. These forums have become a cesspool full of stupid with the few veterans still lingering keeping that stupid to a minimum. Just eagerly awaiting the next patch and the one after that, and that, and the one after that...all the way till Scawen finally says "I'm Done" and the team retires. So...yup. What did you have for dinner, SamH?

Quote from mutt107 :

its awesome that they will have 3 stock cars in forza 3
pics
http://i32.tinypic.com/250jds6.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2utjdrn.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/5ousew.jpg
no pics of the chevy model though.

I'm curious as to what other stuff we'll find in the full game too...Just couple more weeks, hehe!

The one car I'm really looking forward to dicking around with in Forza is the foxbody, finally, a foxbody in a racing game other than Ford Racing. Hooray!

Quote from Homeless_Drunk :

Will S3 include body kits, neon lights and turbo upgrades?

Still waiting on a response, Scawen.

http://forums.forzamotorsport. ... 1/2975508/ShowThread.aspx

Heh...

Will S3 include body kits, neon lights and turbo upgrades?

My opinion of the demo...

...weaksauce. After seeing all the awesome 720p picture/video that was said to be 'in game' and all the other visual candy...the demo doesn't really present that. At all...unless I'm blind? I'm playing on a 52" LCD via HDMI. It still looks better than Forza 2...

Instead of basing my opinion on the demo, I'm going to wait for the full game...I'm going to purchase it because I love Forza 2 but the demo did a bad job of presenting the game, in my opinion.

I think what it comes down too is the track choice was poor...I think they should of picked a real track or a track that you could compare to Forza 2 so you can see the contrast between the two versions.

Another thing that probably made it seem dull was I'm used to flying around the track in Forza 2 inside of cars that are borderline uncontrollable and have no problem getting sideways. Every car in the demo was boring...and it made the physics seem dumber than Forza 2, even with all the assists off the steering input was dull and add that to the track they picked and it made for a very boring experience. I played the demo for 15 min and then went right back to Forza 2....

So...now I want for the release...

Quote from BOSCHO :

what is Multithreading anyway ?

Quote :

Multithreading computers have hardware support to efficiently execute multiple threads. These are distinguished from multiprocessing systems (such as multi-core systems) in that the threads have to share the resources of single core: the computing units, the CPU caches and the translation lookaside buffer (TLB). Where multiprocessing systems include multiple complete processing units, multithreading aims to increase utilization of a single core by leveraging thread-level as well as instruction-level parallelism. As the two techniques are complementary, they are sometimes combined in systems with multiple multithreading CPUs and in CPUs with multiple multithreading cores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multithreading

Quote from shiny_red_cobra :

If you have to ask then this isn't the thread for you.

Read the first page next time.

That wasn't really that hard...took me less than 5 seconds

Quote from amp88 :

On topic, I would like to see multiple cores being supported by LFS because multi-core machines are making up a much larger part of the new PC market than ever before and that trend is probably only going to rise in the future. LFS has traditionally catered for low-end machines, but with a future release (maybe the first S3 Alpha) moving to more intensive graphics/physics along with a move to multi-core support would be good.

You can't buy a single core CPU desktop anymore, every thing is dual core and up. Intel has 6 and 8 core CPUs in their future lineups. It's time to stop catering to older systems and start adding awesome DX10 neon light effects and NAWZ.

LFS could easily benefit from multi-core optimization. LFS could benefit from a lot of stuff but we just have to wait for it...

Quote from Bose321 :

You photoshopped that. SOMEthing just must be wrong, it can't be that hot!!??

I knew someone was going to accuse me of that...haha

It's not Photoshopped, it's uploaded to picasa directly from my phone. I took that at 4:30PM

Here's the temp at 10:30AM on the same day...

In the shade...

You know what I think? I think the devs should have planned better. You can’t release a good (incomplete) product, sell a bunch of it and then expect people not to want more and more of it or at least a finished product. That’s great that the devs want to run their project the way they feel fit but if everyone loses interest before it is even finished it seems like a bunch of wasted effort.

I also think these forums are useless now. It’s all groveling, annoying re-occurring threads and people suggesting the same crap over and over as if it had never been thought of before. Who gives a shit? LFS will be done with LFS is done and why I keep checking these forums must be due to how boring my job is and the lack of other content on the interweb. I know that every day I check lfs.net for an update will not be one. I also know that every day I check the forums there will be no new information regarding LFS. I know I will be greeted by the same kinds of posts, same suggestions and same annoyances.

I want LFS to continue to grow into its final ‘stage’ but unless something magical happens I don’t think LFS can keep up with the rest of the market. Even if LFS continued to chug along at its abysmal pace I don’t think I would be too interested in it unless it made some huge advances.

None of our opinions really make a difference. Nothing will change. Nothing has changed much at all in terms of development process and new content…we all, at least those who have been around since ‘Day 1’, know what to expect. Why we keep second guessing it is beyond me. Why I even took time to reply to this stupid thread is also beyond me.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Aham, so for exclusives they deliver a better graphic card in the package? lol

no...the software is written to take full advantage of cell by offloading the load from the gpu to the cpu, which isn't very traditional. almost using cell as a crutch. devs have talked about ps3 being difficult to program for, they have also talked about the lack of gpu power. i'm not just popping off misinformation, these are things that have been discussed.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Um, those are not facts, stop your fanboyism, it's getting redicolous. Just take a glimpse on Killzone 2, Uncharted and upcoming Uncharted 2, and tell me that PS3 lacks in graphical power Multiplatforms looked slightly better in first year, year and a half on 360 cause it's basically a PC, developers already knew how to develop for it. In last year every multiplatform looks the same on both platforms, with very distinguishingly better looking PS3 exclusives.

It does...compared to 360 it lacks power in a lot of areas. Fanboyism? Maybe you missed the part where I said I own a PS3? They looked slightly better...meaning there was and still is a difference between the PS3 and 360 texture quality...its not me making it up, it's facts...The games you are talking about are exclusives that have been written especially for that hardware...I'm talking about multiplatform...

Here, since you think i'm fibbing: http://www.pcvsconsole.com/comparisons/xbox-360-vs-ps3-gpu/

Quote from Gills4life :

I think it's the same for you then. If you cannot see that really you are paying more for 360 than you are to get a PS3 with everything already included, then you are being the fanboy. The 360 console itself is cheaper than the PS3, yes, I do not dispute that. However, add up all the expenses that you have to pay for with the 360 and in the end it will come to more than what you pay for, for a PS3. You can't call me a fanboy for simply stating the truth really.

There is something called value. I own both consoles...to me the PS3 has less over all value compared to the 360 dollar for dollar. I use Netflix all the time. I'm looking forward to last.fm coming to Live. I play the 360 more because the online community and usability is more simple than PSN's when it comes to playing with friends. I didn't say the PS3 was a bad console, they have a 10 year plan for it and it can only mature more.

The PS3 is more difficult to develop for so devs usually assemble things on 360 then port it over, that's a fact. Majority of games look better on 360 due to this and also due to PS3's lack of graphical power compared to 360. These are facts, not fanboy remarks.

Quote from Gills4life :

The PS3 actually does not cost any more than the 360 when you add up all the expenses of the 360. The PS3 comes as a whole package with the wireless and blueray and everything included without having to buy extras. That and the fact you have to buy the XBL sub fees for the 360 AND then most likely have to pay another 60 bob to fix it when it breaks.

I really loathe that debate....anyone who plays that debate is a fanboy. It cost me $400 for my console and the ability to use Live. I have more HD space than the comparably priced PS3, I have all the same games as PS3 (except for exclusives, that goes both ways). I have a better online experience than PS3, one that keeps mateuring (last.fm, netflix, twitter, facebook, community games, ect). My games tend to have sharper and more vibrant textures, this is due to PS3's lack of graphic processing power (Cell CPU is not a GPU).

They are 2 different consoles. I own both. I have played the same games on both consoles...it stuck me as odd that PS3 textures usually look more blurry and washed out compared to 360. If you poke around the web you can find comparisons confirming this too. I find PSN to be pretty poor compared to Live (you get what you pay for?) and Home is a joke. I like my PS3 but I like my 360 better because of the online community and ease of hopping into games with friends.

GT5 vs LFS is really a non-debate. I think GT5 vs Forza 3 is more reasonable. I used to love the GT series but after playing Forza 2 I was converted. The physics, damage, and sounds of Forza 2 blew me away. It seems Polyphony loves their eye candy because it sells. They never really talk about the 'sim side' only how pretty the game is.

Recently in an interview Turn-10 said, "The game [Forza 3] delivers these astonishing realistic graphics while calculating physics at 360 times per a second." That's impressive for a lil console, imo. Cars in GT5 can't even roll over, I'd say that's a big hole in the physics.

Last edited by Homeless_Drunk, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 17:08.

Quote from Velociround :

:sadbanana

ALL OF YOU MADE BANANA SAD :grumpy:

Quote from AndroidXP :

Will people ever stop reporting the same goddamn thing over and over?

No, if forum members stopped doing that and pointing out useless things that are not bugs the forums would implode. You have been around long enough to know that.

Quote from fujiwara :

This is amazing and this is a project.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZsW-uU5B4

Welcome to my thread, feel free to change the subject any anytime...make it a great day!

I was shown this thread by a good friend...

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

Really no detail to go into...the pictures speak for themselves...

All I can really do is laugh and think "really? wow."...even those lacking basic mechanics can probably get a kick out of this one...

It isn't a joke, it is 100% real with no puns intended. Amazing...

Quote from Stang70Fastback :

With those tires if I didn't engage smoothly (which was 92% of the time) they didn't slip, they just GRIPPED and the whole car LURCHED so violently

that has nothing to do with the tires, it has everything to do with lack of experience.

I have played all the Gran Turismo's (1-5) and recently I picked up a 360 that came with Forza 2. I must say that Forza 2's physics are much nicer and way more refined than Gran Turismo's.

Everything from the tire physics to the engine modeling is far superior. Even the sounds are amazing, every car sounds like it should and not just a generic high revving V6 like in GT. Forza has something called a powerband...one that actually functions unlike GT's linear generic one. One thing that I never liked about GT was that all the cars felt generic and handled the same after a certian point. With Forza 2 that doesnt seem to be the case, each car has its own personality regardless of how much power it puts down. Forza is a superior product IMO and I eagerly await Forza 3 that has been announced for some time in 2009.

Gran Turismo has a name, and that's about it...well that and hype. After that its boring and just another arcade racer. Forza has more than that...including physics that actually work....

Everything except the video card is plenty good...The Intel GMA X3000 will be nothing but a big disappointment and really bottleneck the system in games (even in LFS)...You could get a $100 video card for that system and easily quadruple the video card 'performance'...

Is system good: Yes
Is video card good: No
Is fixing the video card issue a big deal: No (as long as it has a PCI Express slot)