Quote from Turbo Dad :

I think it might be an idea at this point to remove the link to the password.
This would ensure we don't get late joiners affecting our average in the sub-league competition .

Or subterfuge from the other teams ....

Good idea ya devious b*gger

+1

I would strongly suggest it is only worth the effort of appealing if you have a leg to stand on

The admin do a helluva job keeping up with the quantity of reports and from what I've seen first hand, the feedback is always thought thru' and logical.

We may not always agree with their decisions, but at least the process is there to be used if we feel the punishment does not fit the crime.

Quote from Lateralus :

That doesn't look like something you can deep fry, keep it

To the OP - with all due respect, unless you turn out to be an alien theres no way you have had enough practice to extract the best from the set ups you do have. I've found the difference a real good set up makes is 2-5%. Of course this figure will vary person to person.

I don't know if you found the Team Inferno and Set Up Field download pages (if not you certainly should!). They contain some proper gems

Just get the heid doon and get some miles under yer belt, then come back and tell us it's all down to set up, cos its plainly not

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Quote from sanderman2000 :

And how it works,when there are 2 classes racing together? Like GT1 and GT2. Should GT2 give room to all GT1 racers or... ?

Well I'm not 100% sure this is always the case, but.........

During Le Mans this year it was made pretty clear it was the responsibility of the faster car (class) to pass safely.

I've always just thought a healthy dose of common sense was good enough for single class racing.

Trulli for me. He has done some excellent things this season

Honourable mentions to Vettel and Kubica, although they have not had the same consistancy of (relative) performance for me.

Coulthard <shakes head and wanders off aimlessly into the setting sun>

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

My prediction is a McLaren 1 and 2, Lewis beating his team mate by about 30 seconds with Kimi 3rd and Heidfeld 4th. Lewis will win from Pole.

Dammit, I need to stop agreeing with you

The forecast at the moment looks nice and dry for Budapest, so I won't be expecting too many calamities. McLaren have definatley eeked out a wee advantage over Ferrari since Canada, plus their drivers seem to be in better form.

Fingers crossed for a good run for Red Bull, thet could do with stringing a few decent results together as the fight for 4th place in the constructors championship is going to be pretty tight between RBR, Toyota and Renault.

Quote from AstroBoy :

..... and CSC still havnt put time on Cadel tomorrows stage should be interesting

Should have been, but Sastre apart nobody had the legs to challenge Evans. Watched the whole thing live when in reality the last 15min would have done
A wee bit disappointing........

I don't think the gap is big enough to bother Evans. All things being equal he will sew it up in Saturdays TT

Not my first choice for yellow in Paris, but lets hope the b*gger is clean at least

Quote from Turbo Dad :

So why do racers have problems understanding them?

I don't think 'they' have a problem understanding the principles.

Putting them into practice however, is a different matter.

Whilst we all make driving mistakes and errors in judgement, I can't think of an example where lack of knowledge can be accepted as a valid excuse.

It is a tricky one to see a way around tho, as Becky and James pointed out. One click and all the T&C's are signed up to. Not much more CTRA can do about that.

Well, short of heading round to the offenders house and disconnecting their internet

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

There is a reason they are called aliens, there is no secret, you can't learn it, you can only get close through practice, but at the end of the day their limits will always be higher.

Nail on head.

It's instinct. Nothing you can learn.

Yes you can improve massively thru practice and technique, but imo that last few % is down to instinct, gut feel, call it what you like

Quote from Bean0 :

Please include the option to turn if off.

Being spammed to death on servers with lapper is a royal PITA.

Yes please, I find pb's are stored pretty well on LFSW.

Not too bothered about pb's for GTR2's, UFBR, CTRA layouts etc

CTRA is for racing, end of.

It's not a bad idea, but.......

Report ID 17019

Maybe you'd be better off focusing on racecraft rather than PB's?

Watched the race last night after recording it.

I'm fairly new to watching the Moto GP, this is only about the third season I've paid attention, but......

That was quite the best bit of bike racing I think I've ever seen

Rossi was evil on the brakes and Stoners grunt out of T11 was scary enough to watch sitting on the sofa!

Was really disappointed in Stoners reaction in the post race interview tho, he should have been honoured to have taken part in such a masterpiece

Ok there was that one incident at the corkscrew where it got a bit messy, the rest was poetry in motion.

Come on Vali, kick Caseys whining butt all the way to the end of the season

No I haven't, but what a wonderful question to ask. Not one you come across every day

Quote from mcintyrej :

I've had Trulli all season since he was very cheap considering he finish around 7th or 8th (can't remember) in the WDC last year. I don't want to sell him, if i downgrade to a driver below it actually costs me money because he's gone up in price so much.

I'm really stuck what to buy - I normally have about mid everything so Toyota Chassis, Trulli, Sutil, Force India Engine, Mcl fuel. I'm not doing very well though I get <400 points each race.

I don't really want rid of Trulli though - he's ace and as soon as I sold him he'd be loads more to buy back.

Good call with Trulli. I missed the boat on that one Theres no way I would sell him to finance other areas of the team.

if I were you, an STR engine would be high on the list of priorities then Vettel for Sutil maybe?

I downgraded Button -> Vettel a couple of races ago to finance a Ferrari chassis. I'd like to think SV is a dark horse for the remaining races

Quote from Gizz :

every bleedin race we get this crap!!!, i carnt belive the crap you lot spew somtimes i really carnt....snip....
so is lewis the best driver on the track??? for me NO kimi is the better allround package at the moment.....

By paragraph two of that post I am bleeding from every facial orifice.....I feel raped by the lack of, and excessive use of punctuation. Lets just not even think about grammer. Trulli excruciateingly painful (excuse the pun )

Anyhoo, the race.

Hamilton was outstanding. Managed to win the race despite seemingly questionable team decisions during the SC period. Definately let thru by HK near the end tho, typically obtuse of Dennis to deny it.

Is Massa off to McLaren next year or something? P!ss poor non-attempt to defend his position from LH.

Piquet, the jammy sod Happy for him, but he will need to produce more....erm, more......well just more generally to make sure he is around next year.

Ferrari. Its all my fault, I apologise In the fantasy F1 league I 'purchased' a Ferrari chassis prior to Silverstone, clearly that act has f*cked them right over. After this post I am off to pen a personal apology to Marinello written in my own blood

Alonso. I like him more and more as each race goes by. He tries so hard my eyes water. Much respect

RBR were a bit of a let down, their junior team have really closed the gap. DC just aint doing the business, a sad end to what has been an outstanding career. I'm sure its not for the lack of trying, but he's racing 2/3rds of the way down the pack (when he actually keeps it on the track). Webber is showing how it should be done, but he obviously drove in front of a pack of black cats whch made him swerve and crash into a mirror shop a few years ago. His bad run of luck is a shame as I think the boy has real speed.

Vettel. Star in the making? Could be, could be.....

Trulli - another consistant quali and race. Having an outstanding season.

The Bayern Motor Works will be a quiet place this morning. Outpaced and outraced by their traditional rivals. Wonder if they have moved most of the focus onto the 2009 car?

Honda and Williams seem to be going backwards......perhaps they should try facing the right way You have to think that Frank and Ross will sort them out for next year though.

And for a final snippet - how the hell does Hungaroring stay on the rota?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of a track to watch, might just watch quali then not bother with the race.......

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Quote from Mazz4200 :

Site has been updated.

Another poor result for me, but surprisingly didn't drop any places.

The big news is the standings in the Subleague Competition are up. Go take a look see, tis good news

http://www.f1racemanager.com/subleaguecompetition.asp

Gerrin' there

Although, since I bought the Ferrari chassis before Silverstone they have turned into a pair of diddies Should have saved myself 10M credits and went with McLaren and kept the change for a driver upgrade.......

Those who picked up Trulli a while back were inspired, he's been operating above his station for a good few races. Fair play!

Vettel is starting to look pretty handy in that Torro Rosso, but I fear for the Honda boys for the rest of the season.

Hey ho, average points haul but only one bet correct.....no changes for Hungary it seems

Good fun tho, fair enjoying the fantasy league

Quote from Bean0 :

You've got the right attitude, which is always good to see

A lot can be learned just from spectating a race and watching the faster guys. Set LFS options so you can see the throttle/brake bars in the corner, and watch their lines and where they get on the gas or brakes.

Thats good advice, worth taking account of
(if spectating press v to get into cockpit view to see the peddles and make sure this option is turned on in the LFS options:tab to change between racers)

In the lower powered cars try to concentrate on carrying as much apex speed as possible without losing control. This doesn't mean aggressive late brakeing, but smooth input to the controls both during corner entry and exit.
Once this leads to better consistancy your lap times should come down rapidly.

Also, do try to get a good set, its not the be all and end all, but does make life much easier......

Have fun and good luck

Quote from Xenix74 :

About Ovals and and "Some Online Charts" at Lfs World, Vik is it possible to a make a Different Sektion for the Oval drivers.

Yes please, can we 'section' all the oval fanatics please

Quote from Rooble :

pearcy_2k7 & Jakg;

I've read some of the crap you two posted in the thread hannah posted a link to, and I have to say its probably some of the most retarded shit I've ever seen on the forum.


Just man up and quit talking so much shit already, its embarrassing.

Wise words Sensei

My Ignore List is growing at a most satisfying rate

ps - Ladies, why not start your own racing team? Could make for some interesting banter when you start winning MoE events etc

Quote from hannah :

there is alot of sexism.
Go to my thread in the begginers forum.
It had to be closed due to it "getting out of hand" with over excited kids
and there was alot of sexual comments there

Theres a wonderful thing called an Ignore List to be found in your profile settings

I recommend you use it to full effect

I also frequent a rock climbing website, and it's really pathetic seeing all the cyber-stalking freaks out there harassing any of the women who admit to being of said gender. They even have to remove their profile pictures due to the obscene amount of lewd and immature comments.

Anyway, No Longer Welcome means you've been very naughty, or just a complete ar$ehole

Quote from SamH :

You didn't actually state that, though.. and if that's what you meant by what you did state, it could perhaps have been stated a lot better cuz I didn't get what you now state is what you stated, from what you stated when you stated it at first.

Quote from HVS5b :

I am loving the fresh TBO Race 2, I just really liked the RAC as well and it's hard to find decent pick up races with it now

Ah, the state of confusion, a place I am mighty familiar with

Quote from SamH :

Outside of the CTRA admins, though, if anyone carries more influence over another person, it is by virtue of their participation in CTRA servers and not their verbosity on this forum, or in my PM box.

Totally fair point. However, I would like to think platinum and nat A licences show a reason able level of participation. My stats aint too bad either. Oh and btw, 'verbosity' - what a great word

Quote from SamH :

You say that after making a post that leaves me with an overwhelming feeling that I must defend the decisions that are made. CTRA exists for the people that drive it. Specifically the ones that drive it, though.

IMO theres no need to defend the CTRA decision in this front. It's been a well debated and totally transparent process. Proper kudos for that! Sincere apologies if you took my comments as a slur. However, I reserve the right to mourn the passing of THE most difficult road cars to drive from the CTRA servers :weeping:
Erm, also, is there a word missing from one of those last two sentences? Or is I just beink fick again .

Quote from SamH :

I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.. you should try it, whether or not it's forced

Thats a certainty, I love the FXO and RB4 but haven't tried the XRT post Z.

Hope you don't think I'm having a go or plain whining, that isn't my intention . Just my tuppence worth on a quiet day at work.

Thanks for listening

@ Glen - I disagree the scripts for gear changes make little difference. In lower powered car round say FE Gold the difference can be easily as as much as 0.5 sec.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=39818

Its clearly enough to make the difference between having a WR and not.........

Its an expoit that should GTF.

Sam, I don't race on LFS for days, even weeks at a time, never mind a specific car on a specific server. I spend a fair bit of time doing hotlaps and racing on our own server with mates.

I only stated that it was the best venue for LRF pick up racing, which I was learning (after being practicaaly allergic to the RAC :tilt and whats more enjoying the massive challenge they present.

And nobody said anything about the decisoin being made on a whim. However, the opinions of certain member of the community undeniably carry more weight than others

I'm not lobbying for its return Sam, just lamenting its demise

And btw, the statement that NOBODY used it, and no offence, complete tosh. I remember plenty good races with mostly other LX6 racers........I even saw VoiD in one

Theres no need to defend your decision, its your server/system after all! But theres nowt wrong with voicing an opinion too.

PS - the only reason I started to 'get into' the LRF cars was exactly because they were a new class in Race 2. If you start to change it to specific TBO cars only per evening, it might be an incentive to try the XRT

PPS - the full grid TBO races recently have been forkin awesome, I don't think anybody is denying that?

Quote from Dru :

Hopefully this clears up your mis-conceptions.

Well I was just kinda speculating, and the crystal ball is a bit dusty atm

But if I had to put money on it, the same crew who managed to bin the LRF's will also get their way with a revamped TBO class

If that happens via LFS balancing then great, if its an X-system thing then that when I start to think its getting too contrived. Better off with points balancing than restrictions to penalise certain cars.

I'm not too shabby in the FXO on most combo's, but a skilled XRT driver will/can still be faster (ok, it was Palluka )

Whatever you guys decide, you can't keep everybody happy

ps - I am loving the fresh TBO Race 2, I just really liked the RAC as well and it's hard to find decent pick up races with it now

Quote from Psymonhilly :

well if you DL the replay and look at his run onto the start/finish he takes the slip road for greater drive onto the home staright before he starts his HL
i guess you just viewed it on the replay analyzer.

Pretty standard practice I think?