I hate ranking, there are allways people out there who just looks at the statistics. Which destroys the point of a ranking system.

Quote from axus :

Noooo!
Stop posting. I'm trying to overtake you in post count here!
(Let's pretend it matters, umkay :razz

I'm affraid that is impossible

jeeez, there isn't allways time to do one lap before the race starts.

Quote from Batterypark :

I pity the fool who cannot find A Team! :mr-t:

I knew it Thats what I thought when I saw the topic

The default sets are way better now than before, specially the Race_S setup for the BF1.

heeyy Grats :-D

FOX is awesome, if you want some really close but still fast racing the XFR or the UFR rocks to :-)

Quote from Tweaker :

Yeah I read it, sounds good to me. Would like to see the pedals too, since it has a clutch pedal aswell.

To be honest, the price isn't all that bad. Back in the day, I bought my Red MOMO for a steal price of $160 USD, but the retail was $200 USD always. I thought that was a lot to spend for a wheel, but it was worth it. And usually the expensive stuff from Logitech is always worth it, I've bought some of their expensive equipment, and love it.

But think of the entire deal. A nice wheel, a nice shifter + button controls, and a 3 pedal set. That $300 pricetag isn't so bad to be honest. I just hope the build quality is like my Red MOMO.

Yup, I have a DFP and the quality is great. If I ever am going to buy this though, I want to have a spin first.

Quote from Tweaker :

It's a 900 degree wheel, and dual-force FF???

Read the article and you will find answers

wow, nice.

How did you do this?

Quote from marsaz :

So how racing is done on S2 servers? I mean in demo every server is running a 5 lap race (i have had an 8 lap race only twice) and it would be fun to participate in a longer race (not talking about league racing )

You can join events, the ATC 60 lap GP for example.

Quote from mattlikespeoples :

whats s2?

Its your life

Would actually like to see an VW Passat like car in LFS, station wagon, or what its called.

Quote from SamH :

I may be wrong, but I read his post to mean that the option to DISPLAY the carnage would be ON/OFFable, which would be like turning shadows or Haze off to save FPS.

That sounds logical. The damage is there, but you can't see the damage, of course for low end systems.

Hankstar, I runed out of fuel some weeks ago. (right next to the pump, lol) And I didn't notice any of those symptoms, I'm driving a Mazda 626 83mod.

Quote from Bluebird B B :

Modern race cars dont have one, drivers have a pit-crew who start shouting in there headsets they are running out of fuel

Maybe, but the TBO class is just regular cars, not race cars ;-)

I agree, modern cars do have it, dunno about the race cars, but atleast the TBO class and so like should have it.

Quote from lavigne165 :

I think there should be a south city configuration : "the whole city"
wouldn't that be just ......"GREAT".....???

Yes it would, and at the same time open up Fern Bay, Aston, Kyoto and so on. Would be fun

Quote from tristancliffe :

it's rare he makes a bad decision.

True, can't even remember any bad decitions But on the other hand, one time have to be the first :smash3d:

Quote from Tweaker :

Oh and MyBoss, I only gave your post(s) as an example because the majority of good suggestions are ultimately thrown out of proportion by people saying "NO, this will ruin everything", and then can make people jump on the bandwagon and start saying "NO" aswell, without even thinking or discussing the topic completely, to give the feature more 'edge'. I know you made your point with that by just the 'forced cockpit' option... but from reading everything in here, it just looks to shut down the entire suggestion completely. People could get the wrong impression. I've seen plenty of threads with GREAT feature suggestions, but then they start to turn into disagreements and don't take the suggestion anywhere, and yet again... we are left with no ideas. If we keep it up, LFS will just be same old - same old.

True, I allso see the benefits of forced cockpit (leagues and organised events).
But I think I made some good points, I didn't just say "NO this is stupid".

I think we should follow Woz'es excample and let go of this discussion, atleast for now. So we can discuss the other Hardcore options.

Quote from Woz :

Can we drop the forced cockpit fight now.

The forced cockpit debate has been thrashed to death here and in RSC over the years have ALWAYS ended up the same.

Quote from Tweaker :

So suddenly you agree on these options, but still think it will bring disaster to online racing in LFS. Well we can only wait and see. Besides, you are 100% sure Scawen wouldn't make this, but I do recall one of the devs mentioned it?

The forced cockpit option that was suggested in the first post in this thread is the ONLY option I don't want into the game. I thought I made that VERY clear.

And where have I said I'm 100% shure that the devs won't implement the feature?

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And to think you wouldn't even want to TRY it, just goes to show you are already dividing yourself from the community, or in places where the game wants to expand and try new things

And again, where have I said I won't try it? Its not fair of you to say things about me that you don't know anything about.
For your information I have tried default view (cockpit) more and more lately.
But that clearly isn't the point, I would mean exactly the same if I allso used cockpit view.


I thought about one thing, how about the devs implements some kind of option that allows everyone on the server to view each others driving positions? That way, leagues could have a rule about view settings, and just check if everyone is obeying the rule.

bah, allright. hehe.

Going to try it tomorrow then, to late now.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I don't want to see horses in LFS. Not even quick ones.

why?

Quote from Tweaker :

"Oh, well if this was put into the game, I sure as hell will never play LFS ever again"....

It shure is fun to discuss when people pick ONE line of all that I have said in this thread, focus everything on that sentence and impressively manages to jump over all the other I have said. Neat, isn't it!

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So to say that you will be isolated from servers that have such options enabled, and only left with empty servers, that is bullshit.

It truly is, because I haven't said that, I'm answering like that because shure this post of yours was aimed at me, right?

Here is what I said, once again.

Quote :

1. In LFS you can only move your head to view the left or right of your car, you can't move the head so you get that damn corner out of the blind spot. And in Real life you have much better view than in any game.
2. There would be fewer racers left on the servers that are running the default setting, there are few enough allready.
3. In the end it could divide the community where the hardcore guys thinks they are much better, more serious and dedicated than those with custom view. (can allready see it in this thread)

Quote from Vaillant :

It will be welcome!
OK ... forced cockpit apart
= Fixed seat
= Forced Wheel-driving (if possible .... Joystick detection!)
= Forced Manual clutch
= Forced TC if real car simulated get it (to avoid hardcore-simmers become too .... harcore)
= Forced ABS if real car simulated get it (to avoid hardcore-simmers become too .... harcore)
= No TC if no present in real car simulated
= No ABS if no present in real car simulated
= No steering help
......

Agree on most of those. The server could allso have an option to force people to drive with the same amount of fuel, no car resetting, no race-join after start.

Last edited by MyBoss, Tue 2 May 2006, 21:00.

hmm, for some reason LFSTweak says it searching for a car.

I've selected all of the demo cars, I've been in the garage, I've been in the loby, and I've been on the track. But no green car lights, do I have to switch LFS into demo mode?

I'm a little bit surprised.

Its like you guys think that with a hardcore server. T1 crashes, 5lap races and so on will just wanish. Its not, its pretty naive to even think thats going to happen. Many people thought there would be cleaner racing in S2 compared to S1 because of the damage, well, there isn't.

And agrumenting with that "all cars allowed" thing just isn't the same, its logical that you can't have a public UF1 race if the BF1 or any other fast cars are enabled.

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"If a group of hardcore race sim enthusiasts wish to compete under strict and even conditions it is logical that a non-hardcore racer wouldn't enjoy the action anyway and therefore isn't being deprived of anything that he desires. You wouldn't be missing out on a thing if hardcore servers were in the list."

Why do you think a racer with custom view wouldn't enjoy the action just as much? Do you think those running with cockpit view are better drivers? Do you think they are more enthusiastic?
The only differense is the driver view, nothing more, nothing less.


Just a note, I would love to see those other options you are mentioning.

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A variety of hardcore options that could include fuel load limiting, control tyre choice, no telepitting or reset, no text chat and other realistic race controls would enhance and add depth to online racing.