Big boned, big boned
Yeah I'm sure in regarding the point i made. Fatties aren't even in the equation here. When was the last time you saw Danny de Vitto racing

Could a mod 'spin-off' all non-3D test patch posts please? Assuming that I'm right when i say I'm speaking on behalf of the test patch testers that it is getting increasingly harder to follow and respond to related 3D posts that are being cluttered with mostly crap.
XP support is here to stay for the time being thankfully. If you wish to share opinions about it, a different thread would be the place for it. I may have a go myself in there, but it's hard to type neck-deep in shit :goodvibes

Is your E-mail hacked or your LFS account?
E-mail: contact e-mail provider
LFS: contact developers
on either occasion i recommend you find a real person translator
You can also change your E-mai ... iated to your LFS account

On a pro level, racing is a sport for low weight drivers. Less height means less weight which is the most important base along with talent. You could have lots talent but if you're tall and consequently heavier you can forget pro level competition. Petrov being the exception because of money talks crap.
With that in mind, racing cars are designed for short guys as is our default guy in LFS: ~180 cm i believe. Ofcourse the view may look strange if you put a giraffe neck on him - because of specific car design.

@smove
Scary accurate Nice job Rico

Good memory
I prefer cabin view (or corvette uf1)! And I'm too old to test, my consistency varies, not a suitable test subject

I remember i did some laps with F-view before i invited you on the server last time, to ensure myself it supports my logic. Damn, I was so confident it would work. Oh well Good luck in your quest pal, i hope we meet online sometimes, but not in fbm, fuk that car

Remember me young Sith? Do you have the multiplayer replay of us from last year where i tired to explain why it is suboptimal way of driving with forces view?

I know what bothers you, i know how it feels not getting a straight answer, often insults instead, and i think i might provide an answer again.
I can start by answering immediately that the F-view will remain for some time if not forever. It's just that it is soooo convenient 'debug setup' feature for players that it would be a downgrade to remove it completely. There is the possibility of limiting its use for practice sessions or replays for example, removing it from competition sessions altogether. But to achieve that would require near consensus of the community that it is a bullshit method of driving in addition to it being potentially advantageous. I say potentially because there is one way i can think of it being advantageous but can't actually confirm because it would be extremely time consuming to test is and get accurate results from it. That is to simply drive both ways: lots laps in cabin, lots laps in F-mode, under most similar conditions. With many different people testing it, etc...

I know how advantageous it might look if you want to think it that way. Clear vision of the track, distance from the tire edge to the grass, etc. Taking advantage of every single pixel on the fly and what not. Pandering to such a way of driving to gain same advantage, to achieve level ground, is of course out of the question because it is bullshit. The need to 'set it right' arises.
But it takes some more experience and most of all thought to come to terms that it's not the case. The 'why' part is what i tried to explain back then. I hope to god you still have the fukin replay
In the end, explanations don't mean shit if they fail in practice. If that test could prove my logic wrong, that it is indeed an advantage, I would agree with you Sith. Toilet Paper

@ good intention Gav: opinions don't matter, arguments matter (in good intention m8 ). Which he did not receive, as far as i noted tho

You did it Fordie

Normally it's installed with LFS only when you tick one of those options in the installer. I believe it only adds one registry key to tie join link with LFS app.

Instead of installing LFS again go here:
http://www.lfs.net/?page=addons

and download LFS Associations Setup, run it then tie it to your desired LFS installation. It does the same thing as complete installation but without replacing any files, only registry update. Join link should work now.

bada bing, bada boom

I would download but not reinstall. Rather extract to another folder, un-ticking all options installer has to offer so that original LFs folder registry settings are unaffected. Name the new LFS folder something like 0.6E Default, then simply take any default file you need from there and copy it into your original LFS folder.
By reinstalling in the same place you will loose a lot of changes you made of your original LFS.

Some settings, like FOV (pov), are shared between all cars. Theres no way around that as far I'm aware of. There could be more that are shared but don't know which.
And theres those that are separate for each car, like custom view setting. Not sure if there are more tbh.

Ups, it's LFS State indeed. Not to be confused with other LFSStats application (which is also great btw)
Grazie Fisico

How can one say no to such nice intro
There's a first time for everything they say; I finally used calendar reminder for the first time

Great Insim
Very customizable options, intuitive and useful Very good work on this app

Can it be done that it reads own PB from lfsw? Right now i have to make PB with LFSStats opened before it knows what my PB is.

1st link - sudden wheel turn under braking, going thru a corner
2nd - half throttle, speed decreasing, going thru a bumpy corner
3rd - rear wheels locked at turning point, front wheels turned wrong way
4th - braking hard on the apex, probably rear wheel locked
Not even going into setup differences, all these situations will produce same result in lfs, physics are already good enough to replicate those. Your best laptimes aren't yet fast enough to experience this on a regular basis. I dare to say it has happened to you before and you just forgot about it.
In XFG, put normal tires in the rear like those guys in the videos and experience oversteer extravaganza.

Correct.

Although the thermal camera looks cool () and it is what it looks like, aka factual situation, the truth is that even the large difference in heat displayed on the video has negligible effect on grip performance and as such having the same display information in LFS's F9 instead the current one (i'm guessing for most of us had that idea crossed our minds when we saw the video) would be useless. I'm wondering how many think or know the same? It's highly counter-intuitive.

Fun fact: we already have the same display in LFS. As and addition to current F9 info: press F9, then press ctrl+shift and hold. Now you should see the actual surface temps behaving exactly the same as in the video. But it is not the default view. Why? -I'm guessing the same logic that's behind what i said before.

Coincidentally (spell check ftw) enough, tomorrow will be exactly 6 years since this picture was taken. Result of a randomly pressed Prt Sc at the right moment

Had same symptoms with another program: ran normal first few times then stopped without reason. No system changes, no firewall changes, nothing...
So i tried most commonly suggested 'fix' for everything on win7... run the exe or the shortcut as administrator. If that somehow works then you can permanently set to run like that by changing it's compatibility option.
If that doesn't work then good luck with finding solution cause who knows what it might be but it's a high chance old pc isn't the culprit. I recommend smart google search. Don't focus on the particular program that's giving you problem but in general how that program behaves and include win7 in the search. You will probably have to skip first few result pages giving you run as admin routine

Oh yea, i also reinstalled my program but it still didn't ran, only admin thingy did it. In my case it's only one exe file whole program, but it does require registry access so i'm guessing that's why it needed admin (after it didn't, jeez win7).

There is one server where elderly folks drive: DeadMenRacing. They don't organize leagues that i know of but they have annual weekly race on thursdays i believe. Nice guys. Friendly, respectful, mature; you know, that sort of pedigree. One guy from DMR recently posted that he is 71 in anticipation of s3, and now you're 72.. that blows my mind, positively
He will probably read this too, straightening his wrinkles as he smiles while eagerly waiting to share his ww2 stories with someone his age. Respecto mundo to all oldies in lfs

Yow old buddy, old pal
I miss reading your thoughts in the chatbox together with my morning coffee & cookies... What's a man without his rituals
Hi to the ppl on the list too. Over the years i got to know a few of em Bit hard to recognize their names not written in the mirror tho

I'm having the same problem as our distinctive-difference-between-username-and-racename polish mate here. Specifically, the sparingly used copy/paste question marks which i always presumed was caused by my substantial registry fixes in that area for another Win XP unrelated problem . So thanks for the info
And to add a little something - it is same crappo procedure in win7, only the tab is name far less intuitive. Just like the entire OS is for that matter.

Edit: After some fiddling about with settings and stuff i found the procedure that works without the need for a restart every time. First, find out what is your key bind setting for switching between input languages under regional and language options... Default should be Left Alt + Shift. I recommend you put Language bar on the taskbar (right click on taskbar - toolbars). Press key combo and you should see the change now, real-time. This ony works for the programs in the active window, unless you change it on the desktop without an active window - then programs are started with active input language selected. That is way i recommended that you put lang bar on the taskbar - to avoid confusion which is active. Change should be visible as you switch between windows with different set languages. Now for the actual procedure:

Win7: do same as Scawen mentioned, select Russian but don't reboot. Run LFS, alt+shift until Cyrillic appears. Done deal. If not, try reboot. If still not then wait few moments... That's all i did when i went to test it on my main PC with XP!

WinXP: Here in LFS i had only Central European and Latin 1 so i went to add Russian like i did on win7 but to my suprise there was a whole array of Russian this, Russian that, Cyrillic this and whatnot. So i selected a few to be able to select them in LFS but it required not only a reboot but install CD as well. Fek that i said and leave it for you to try

Don't know if this will work with copy/paste ???s yet, but typing is OK.

Last edited by Nilex, Mon 29 Apr 2013, 15:00. Reason : the solution

Only one i can think of. It's complicated, illogical, definitely not for casual pc user, high chance you will lose your setups and all settings if u don't follow what i say to the letter, will cost you up to 3 unlocks at the worst, and probably won't work. Luckily windows don't care about logic so we have a fighting chance
Should i continue, cause too lazy to type in vain

EDIT - Few chocolate bars later:
1. Firstly, copy both lfs folders someplace else. Name them so you know which is which (e.g.: lfs unlocking; lfs fu'ed). This backup ensures your data stays safe. We don't need every single file to backup but it's so much easier for me to type it . Delete lfs.exe (EDIT 2: and the uninstall.exe) from both backup lfs folders. Delete the misc folder from the backup of the non-unlocking lfs folder.
2. Get the installation file for 0.6E.
3. Uninstall LFS, if it asks to keep this or that say no. Uninstall it ALL.
4. Guess what, you still have one intact original lfs folder. Uninstall that too, ALL. If the uninstall.exe is missing then just del the crap out of the folder. And del the other original folder if it is still there.

Now you're left with two backup lfs folders but without any registry info about them. And this part you're going to do again little later as i suspect is the culprit of the problem.

5. Install LFS from that exe you got. This install is your main LFS from now, the one you play the most, the one files are associated to. Name it nicely, thick all options. This time you want it ALL.
6. Now you will install lfs the second time but this time you don't want to 'install' it, just extract all the files. Untick all the file associations and what else there is, keep only your vanilla game. This isn't actually installation but extraction. Like extracting an archive. Name the folder what you wish and on to the next step.
7. Don't run the game yet. First copy all the files from the backups. I hope you named them so you know which one goes where, and deleted the exes' (from the backups eh)
8. Run working folder. Should be same as before if not better. I put my hand in fire if it ain't so...
9. Run non-unlocking one and unlock it. This time it should stay unlocked. At worst it will be same as before. To get your driver names back copy over the *.ply files from the misc folder of the first lfs.

Resoning behind all of this is that i think you installed the game twice before, posibly making multiple registry entries for the same thing. And it somehow got screwed up.
This time you'll install it once, and extract the other. For example i have four working LFS folders, only of which one is installed, the latest version.
Del the backups when you're sure you will not need them anymore.

Last edited by Nilex, Tue 23 Apr 2013, 14:03. Reason : Dorina chockolate, 100 grams. Brain lag for E2.