sorry, hijacking again, ill go through the post again and see what i can take out of what you have shown me devil 007, but a quick question u mention the Core 2 Duo E4400 (2, 0GHz, 2M, 800MHz)............and then ive also seen (yes i know its old) a Intel Pentium D 945 3.4GHz/4MB Cache/800MHz FSB. now i know everyone is saying go for dual core, but for things like lFS which dont use a dual core would the pentium processor theoretically be faster then the core 2 duo? and if not, why? as it has more cache, more mhz and the same fsb.