It's not really ironic at all... Red Bull brought him into F1 (remember the red bull US F1 drivers search a couple years ago?). If he stays with them its a sign of appreciation and thanks to them.

NASCAR is alluring to these drivers for its racing. Door-to-door racing you don't find elsewhere.

As for JV, he's got nothing better to do, as I don't think his music career is going anywhere fast...

Jokes aside, he's succeeded at every level he's raced at, and I imagine he wants to see if he can bring that success to NASCAR.

That's cute; however, you've yet to put together a logical argument, let alone a decent post.

Ground effects (shaping of the underside of the car to produce downforce with diminished effects on drag) could be reinstated. As I understand it, the venturi effect is less affected by being in another car's wake than current wing's aero efficiency.

The FIA just got scared by its efficiency and banned it without really looking at possible ways to regulate it.

Quote from richy :

I'm an idiot...

Stop your meaningless posts please, they really do nothing to contribute to this conversation.

NASCAR's races have the most competition in today's world.

Beating 42 other individuals with the same machinery is what these guys are out to do. Think about it, racers by nature are very competitive, some are ego maniacs. If you believe you are the best racer in the world, NASCAR is a suitable environment to prove it.

Brilliant! That's gotta be the race highlight!

ALMS from Mosport is on... Great classic track.

Wow, I didn't even know the Seat was running diesel. Any sites have good WTCC coverage?

Quote from Blackout :

NASCAR and other stock car series, like many things in the US, is all about entertainment and the spectators. If the spectators can't see, and they have to sit in the rain in soaking wet clothes, it doesn't sell tickets and that isn't good. End of discussion.

Accurate observation, except the key attraction is the interaction between the divers and cars (the track is largely incidental). For the most part, road course racing (what Europeans have been raised on), has been the interaction between the driver, car, and the track (think Monaco, Nordschleif).

NASCAR is hugely successful. They have a winning formula, and they don't need to change it.

Agreed with lizard, let this thread RIP.

Ferrari FTW... McLaren had a nice recovery.... onwards to Monza, hopefully a decent race for once

McLaren's a bunch of goons for not replacing that front wing on LH...

CP: agreed... yawn.

I love Alonso trying to block Hamilton in the pits again!

Quote from DeKo :

what? 0.o

lol... my thoughts exactly (?).

I hadn't even realized, its called the "Ferrari GT Experience"!!

http://gear.ign.com/articles/815/815496p1.html

Why does Ferrari continue to license their name out to really crappy hardware/games/etc?

Look at those pedals... give me a break...

.04 difference, Nice! Shaping up to see what Could be a nice fight for pole. Who knows though.

Auon - Sorry am I.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I admit I might have a different viewpoint from your average NASCAR fan, but that's because I have more human genetic code than your average NASCAR fan It still stikes me as completely stupid they don't even run in the damp if they can get away with it!

Mindless trolling. Despite all preconceived stereotyping, survey's taken in the mid-late 90's showed the percentage of NASCAR fans with an up-todate PC and internet connection was roughly 3 times that of our national average.

Your ridiculous claims and arguments only further prove how you simply don't understand it, and never will.

There is nothing to prove by racing round an oval in the wet. Oval racing is about the side-by-side battling and the spectacle. There is no need to needlessly endanger man or machine in what would probably end up just being a who is luckiest competition (think CTRA SS1 on FE Club with full field of mixed talent).

Why don't top fuel dragsters race in the rain? They aren't made for it and it serves no purpose.

Ha, you really believe that?

You ever seen a crash on an oval? Cars and parts everywhere. "Wreck in T2" doesn't exactly suffice.

You're talking about an amatuer series on an amatuer track.

You're expectations in terms of spectating (as a racing driver, a technically minded individual, and as a European) are fundementally different than that of the NASCAR/IRL fans in America. As you are totally oblivious to this, you can justify saying that slow cars at Rockingham ovals can do it, why can't 800hp stock cars.

How would onboard be awesome? showing a huge cloud of mist with no visability? How would it be good racing? No braking points, no visability, no spectators... Going along in control of your car till bam, you hit a car you couldn't see... Sounds fun.

Its a stupid idea and you understand that. You just find enjoyment out of making arguments for the sake of it, so be it.

No need to encourage him further.

And I like Chicken, but I doubt that will have much effect on the outcome of the race.

I imagine whoever takes pole tomorrow will flag-to-flag the race. Hungarian GP always leaves a very cynical taste in your mouth doesn't it?

Quote from amp88 :

I believe you can read more from tea leaves than you can from modern F1 FP times. They mean diddly squat, perhaps even less than that.

If I was looking for a quote to put in my sig, this would be it!

I'd rather see a little bit of fight for the driver's championship, it's bad for the sport for one team to run away with it.

But I would not be at all surprised to see LH on pole tomorrow.

Friday practice does not a GP win make. [/yoda speak]

That is encouraging, but especially with the 2 tire formats, I doubt it means that much.

Edit - I'm glad to see that getting rid of Scott Speed has already put the Torro-Rosso team into a Championship Contender role... [/sarcasm]

By what measuring stick are you "pretty good"?

Right, different turn banking, radius, ideal line.... Nice.


By your definition, T1 of BWGP is essentially the same as T1 of AS3... Both vaguely go the same direction...

You ever seen Pocano, Indy, Bristol, the Autodromo Nelson Piquet's Emmerson Fittipaldi Speedway (or half a dozen other ovals that couldn't be more unique)?

I'd say just go for a clean copy of LFS, shouldn't be too hard. No idea what that problem is from... sorry

Edit - You do see the irony between your name and avtar?