Quote from srdsprinter :

Solution: Max Quality for all games on the main (non-game specific) setting

<- Seems to work well enough, you need to tweak for other games sometimes though.

GT2 = Turbocharged RWD 911. Pretty crazy car.

GT3 = Ultimate 911 Track Car IMO. Normally Aspirated.

Shotglass has a good point, and I agree, may the best product win.

The 911 Turbo naming convention is just too much of a gimmick in my eyes.

Edit -> Jack, you're right, the GT2 is something of an ugly duckling, mainly because it isn't used for Porche Factory racing cars ATM. The GT3 is the basis of all the Cup and RSR racing derivative.

Both the GT2, GT3 absolutely Trounce the Turbo round a track, 996 versions especially.

Last edited by srdsprinter, Wed 30 Jan 2008, 14:56.

The naming convention particularly bothers me.

If this is a true 'enthusiast' wheel, why name it the 911 Turbo? Since the 996, the 911 Turbo has been a fairly tame car, and is not really that fast around a track. Too heavy, too safe, too complicated (AWD, faster 0-60 w/ automatic).

911 Turbo should appeal on a base level with kids, or people who know a little about cars. I.E. The Need For Speed crowd.

On naming alone, 911 GT3 (RSR) would have been much more directed to "our" market. But that would certainly put them off many of the mainstream guys who only care about hp numbers and 0-60 times.

Quote from Gabkicks :

Not my 1st impressions, but someone's from www.gtplanet.net

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWjLRhd8w0

WTF: "The Fanatec paddles provide Instant Shift" vs what? Not Instant Shift of the G25?

This guy is a loser beyond repair, just making up shift differences between the two. He doesn't even have a stable mount for his wheel....

Hmm... why go for the Turbo edition, when you know there will always be a GT3 GT2 version out in a year or so?

Quote from DejaVu :

That ain't no Audi R8, that's for sure.

It is the BMW LMP Car with a Judd V10 IIRC.

Edit - Apparently its a norma?

Quote from Tweaker :

You misunderstood my post.

Sorry for misunderestimating you.

I understand where you are coming from now.

Just for me, if the cars don't envoke some emotion from me I'll never be drawn to the product, no matter how good it is.

The LX cars really brought me into LFS, as that was (and somewhat still is) my dream car. Now the reason I'm still here is the incredible racing simulation and comradery.

If we were all forced to be racing New Beetles and Skip Barber Formula cars then I wouldn't...

Different strokes for different folks i guess.

If they had some caterhams, F3000s, Lotus, and hill climbs as standard, then i'd be at least interested, if not still totally turned off by the pricing.

Quote from Tweaker :

If you have any knowledge of previous Papy sims, you'd know that they feel and play great, always.

As for car selection. I could complain that Nr2003 had big stupid/ugly stock cars, but they were fun to drive in that game! What's to say the driving experience will be worse in this game?

The ONLY downside I think is the payment plans they have. Doing annual payments for a simulation is obviously what they are expecting to get from customers after all their work. If they didn't just throw all these pricing plans on us right away at a higher rate, I think their customer base and buyer-interest would rise. However, if you think about their pricing, it isn't all that bad if you are a working individual with some income:
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I don't understand how that is a response to my post(s).

The tracks look well modeled judging by the video on the main page. That is a plus in my book. Unfortunately it happens to be the only plus I see.

The pricing is ridiculous, as it is unprecendented in the sim-racing market for an unproven product. I understand the Papy sims are fun, I've owned a few and played many, but so what. I'm not going to dish out tons of money for some good looking tracks... leading to negative point two.

The cars have no appeal to me. Just as the NASCAR games did. I see a:
-Pontiac Solstice. Somewhat neat spec racer, lacking the soul of the spec Caterham, E30, or Factory Five Cobra spec series though.
-Legends Car. Neat little machine, I've driven one in real life. Pretty simple in terms of engineering, and not exactly fast.
-Dodge Formula car. Formula car with road tires and a neon engine right? woohoo.
-A couple of recycled late-model/modified NASCAR cars. Again, nothing screaming "BYE ME!"

In closing, I never said anything about the fun of driving, merely I already have an incredibly entertaining sim that has set the benchmark for physics realism, online racing, and (apparently) untouchable value for the money.

Car selection is utter crap too.

meh... the tracks are perfectly recreation of the real life counterparts, aside from that i see Zero appeal.

Yeah, we need to get a community boycott. Even if it is great, pay to play isn't smart for sims.

FIGHT NIGHT LIVE in 37 MINUTES!

Pretty good card too:

Swick in his Welterweight debut.
1 Middleweight fight.
5 i think lightweight fights.
Corey Hill fight should be neat to see.
And Gray Manard is a cool dude.

I'm not too familar with the 2900GT, but I believe its somewhat of a locked down (i.e. not just declocked) 2900xt/pro.

Both would be a pretty big upgrade from your x700.

Sorry i don' tknow about the 2900.

What is the Huge "AERO" switch in the middle of the Renault wheel for I wonder? As all aerodynamic pieces are immovable per the regulations.

I have the same trouble with the "game specific" settings. Using the universal settings works for me though. Hope this is resolved soon w/ nvidia drivers, Good luck.

14.500 Seconds at 3.6GHz (8x450), RAM 900MHz 4-4-4-12.

Last edited by srdsprinter, Mon 4 Feb 2008, 17:43. Reason : Thanks Marzman :)

lmao at the first video... he crapped himself for sure.

Call of Duty 4... I won't ruin it for you if you haven't played it, but the "opening credits" are awesome.

Hm... similar to what i had on my 8800gt...

Solution: Max Quality for all games on the main (non-game specific) setting

Der... a simple screenshot will suffice, but no sunshine from harjum

This is the coolest!

Fantastic to see it integrated within LFS!!!!!!!

XFR/UFR RWD Competitor +1.
MR GTR (RACR) +1.
LMP (Open/Closed/80's/90's/00's Just Please) +1

And to the OP: FZ50 already is based off the prior GT3's specs.

Meh?

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uh???

You won't regret it (self-build). The quality of the components you get blows away anything you'd find prebuilt. I'm certain some of your fellow UK/Europeans will be on shortly to give a good build list for you.

Congratulations!


Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with Wheels and Controllers!