Quote from mcintyrej :

Sounds exactly like the problems I had with my X1950 Pro. Grab yourself an 8600GT or an 8800GTS if you can, you'll be set. I've had no problems with my 8600GT, even when Overclocked past the benchmarked settings by some sites that said they're card artefacted at that point.

Thanks for the advice!

New 8800GT & GTS' should be coming out in November apparently, a little faster and less expensive than the current line. Confusing that the naming will be the same, but actually be different hardware.

Eitherway, I think I'll be going green shortly.

I always seem to end up frustrating myself by not spending the extra $ when I could have... Don't think I'll ever learn though.

CPU – Intel Core2Duo E6750 @ 3.2GHz (400x8) 4MB L2 1.35v
CPU Cooler – Zalman 9700
GPU – X1950Pro 256MB
RAM – 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 @ DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12) 2.1v
Motherboard – Gigabyte P35C DS3R
PSU – Corsair 520HX 520watt modular
OS – MS XP Home
HDD – WD 250GB
Case – Aerocool mid-atx w/ 140mm intake 120mm exhaust
Optical – IDE DVD+-R
Monitor – 22” Viewsonic LCD 1680x1050 / 17” Dell 720p
Peripherals – Logitech G25

A pretty big upgrade, cpu now capable of 16.000 second SuperPi 1M runs. I’m at a crossroads in terms of OC’ing it further. My rig can probably approach or surpass 3.6GHz stable, and newer faster cheaper C2D’s are to be out in January. I want to push it, but its stable and fast for league races, so I’m happy.

It is funny to re-read some of the early parts of this thread. The first-adopters of AMD’s Dual Core CPU’s were questioned and harassed for getting “unnecessary” technology, too far ahead of their time.

The Dual Core argument of “more future-proof” was used, and is now being used to support the emerging Quad Cores as well.

Now Quad’s have arrived, and no-one is criticizing their owner’s too much.

Edit -> I'd like to go to the new 8800 refresh when it comes out. ATI has provided me with nothing but headaches, 2 RMAs in a row, and now a pesky card that requires setting the AA/AF everytime its used.

The "Tounge-in-Cheek" comment was jumbled and poorly laid out. It had the potential for humor, it was just misguided.
Your redneck comment really had nothing funny, just dumb.

And sorry how my failure to see the humor or merit in any of the above goes against my American Excitability or for my American Seriousness...


If there was something witty, funny, or written half-way decently, I would have enjoyed it. Sadly, there wasn't.

Break it down for me, I'm a slow American.

I don't take myself too seriously, but when there's a stupid piss-poor attempt(s) at humor written I'm suddenly the stereotypical serious American.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Another stereotype proven then...

That being?

A poorly contrived/delievered America joke that failed to provide humor. Top notch.
Calling Americans a large bunch of rednecks. Stellar comedy...

Quote from tristancliffe :

Or a failure to realise that what was posted was humorous.

But being against America, I can see that you wouldn't see the funny side of it. Americans don't know how to take the piss out of themselves. Shame, because they'd be quite an amusing bunch of rednecks if they could... this might also be funny, but then, you wouldn't know

Oh, I understood the "funny side of it". It just fell completely flat. The inarticulate/redneck/ricer American stereotype has just been played out. On top of that the delivery was pretty poor.

To stereotype such a diverse and large populous of America as an "amusing bunch of rednecks" is laughable, but not really humorous. Are there rednecks, yes. Are all Americans rednecks, no. And as for "taking the piss out of themselves," I find Americans are quite able to do so, see the Blue Collar Comedy Tour.

Quote from (SaM) :

A sense of humor failure would require something humorous being posted...

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Nice save, but the reaction of the people filming was funnier. If that had happened in America you can bet you would hear 'YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH WOOOOOOOO DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM BOY CAN DRIFT YO WAAAAAAA!' rather than..."oooh god, ooooh gosh"

Spot on brilliant observation.... not.

This is sweet. Was this this year?

Quote from UncleBenny :

it isn't even about driving with real life racers. its about driving with kart racers, and that is how he should have phrased it. if he wants to dive bomb people and force them wide, then fine do it with your kart racers on your special server. but don't act like that is how all racing it is done, because anyone who has any idea what is going on in racing knows that is not true. you can't just expect someone to pull over for you because you decided you want to pass now. you earn your spot along side them and then you race them through the corner.

and don't show up on a public LFS server and expect people to tolerate your kart racing style, because you are not racing karts. when(if) karts make it into LFS then maybe on those servers it will be the norm, but when you are driving a road car in LFS that just isn't how you race. people do not have to move over and they are going to be pissed when you come from nowhere and ram into them.

if intrepid would have just phrased his first post differently none of this would have happened. its obvious that his kart racing style is different from most other racing. but trying to put the rest of us "non-RL" in some category while his is in his "RL racer" category is obviously going annoy people, especially with the attitude he has about the whole thing.

Amen.

rofl... like his own sig for instance?

Quote from Intrepid :

lol.. I told the admin to lock this thread! DeadWolf and co just can't argue like sensible people, and rather try discredit what I say with pathetic put downs that wouldn't even hold credibility in a kindergarten school.

Word.

Lol... Celibacy for Speed

It's a form of motorsport.

edit -> And how does a video of a multiple-thousand $ shifter kart around an auto-cross make it more accessible?

This has really made my day, so much hillariousness in just one thread!

Quote from Intrepid :

The hefty proportion of ral life racers would naturally be kart racers as it's the most accessible motorsport out there yes. But by no means do I specifically mean kart racers.

"Most accessible motorsport out there" would have to be auto-cross.

Quote from ayrton senna 87 :

i dont like being reffered to as a kid, and karting is not a amater 'league'

Says the kid who claims he is from Kazakhstan.

Worst idea ever?

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I saw a 28" 1920x1200 lcd, looked pretty nice for $600.

I'm a mechanical engineer, and for work, I couldn't function without 2-screens. CAD and/or other apps on 1 screen and inevitably a spreadsheet on the other.

3rd is the 2nd loser. Clarkson isn't a racing driver, he's a phenomenal Automotive Journalist, which is why they have the stig for the racing.

There's a reason the stig doesn't speak; driver's don't make entertaining presenters. Tiff tries to hard to do both and fails.

Quote from ajp71 :

As for Clarkson, well he's an entertainer, Top Gear is entertainment, if I want to know what a car is like I read Autocar. Fifth Gear is rather rubbish IMO and I never watch it mainly because it can't decide what it wants to be, it used to be serious, and really really dry with Tiff going on about how he's the dogs bollocks and trying to drive cars seriously. The last time I watched it it mainly consisted of some dumb ape siting around in the Ace Cafe making silly comments and then really dull Top Gear style silly challenges, like a car vs RC race, that's presented so boringly then at the end they usually smash something up and get Quentin Wilson to do one of his crappy safety speaches, better than getting him started on importing cars though

.... Yup...

Quote from Jakg :

The prices of the Q6600/X3210's are set to fall as the 2.66 GHz, 6 MB Penryn Quad are $266 per thousand, same as what the Q6600 is now.

I would hope, but E6600's didn't drop after E6750's came out...

On Topic, you're going to want to be getting a Penryn if you wait till next year. (45nm C2D architecture)
http://www.overclock.net/hardw ... cpus-price-list-quad.html

So for future-proofing stay away from that chipset. I'd actually think about going Pentium E2160 OC 100% and dropping a new CPU when 45nm comes out in January... uggg, geek speak...

Yikes, that E6700 is a big Red Flag. E6750 should be as fast/faster & 1/2 the price.

The 620watt PSU is nice no doubt, but is overkill for anything less than SLI/Crossfire. I have the 520watt, works great.

I'd keep the 8800, I keep buying ATI and getting frustrated. 2-for-2 RMA's, and this one needs a manual add-on to enable AA/AF.

Motherboard - How does that thing like oc'ing quads Jakg?

CPU cooler?

Quote from Jakg :

I'll give you a hint - it's DDR800 at stock, and DDR1075 when Jakg's had a little tweak :P

Play on words my technological forum friend. DDR2-1000, not DDR1000.

I'll get the link later, but there was an interesting point on the Pistonheads.com, after a T1 article they had.

A guy there has a 300 HP Ariel Atom, and the thing is mental. Its so much faster than Porsches, Ferraris, and what-not, all his track-days are spent passing slower cars. He claimed in a year of 7 (5-9?) trackdays, he only had a total of THREE clear laps not slowed by traffic.

Now if you are in a Caparo, something that could leave Atoms for dead, imagine the frustration of driving it, against anything less than LMP cars.

DDR1000! i'm just now on DDR2 ram....

Quote from Intrepid :

I race LFS in EXACTLY the same way as i DO in real life, because I respect that sim.

You don't race cars IRL. You race karts. The two couldn't be more different.