Oh My God! They've Gone Plad!

No problem, and good luck!

Quote from JTbo :

Funny, same story just opposite

Healthcare is something we pay in our taxes, I pay 23% of taxes + few % of social costs from every paycheck, over 60% tax from fuel, whatever I buy I need to pay 22% of tax, of course who makes product will pay tax from making product and selling it and so on.

Houses are so expensive that my life is not enough to pay one and I'm not earning so bad, above average actually.

Living with parents as teenager I don't think gas in US is relatively more expensive than here, more likely lot cheaper and still teenagers here afford to get it, drive all night and some go even to track days too.

You should watch the movie Sicko.

As for the gas - I guess I worded it badly - I mean that the cheap cost of gas over here does not make up for the other expenses we have to pay in our daily lives.

Seriously - though - watch Sicko to understand the issue with our healthcare system.

Quote from JTbo :

Expensive? EXPENSIVE?

$8.31/gallon it is here, how can you say it is expensive ?

Many people go to work in US from here because living there is cheap and income big, so can't really understand any comments why it would not be same thing

Living here is not cheap. It's a lot more expensive than you think. No free health care, for example, and houses cost a fortune. Sure gas is cheap, but that does not make up for the rest of the expenses. I can likewise say there are many of people here who move to Europe to save money. My dad says were we living in Europe right now, we'd be living in a mansion, with 17 different cars (13 of them being rare exotics) and basically bathing in our own filthy richness...

...well not really, but (and I guess it depends what area of the US you compare with what area of the UK, it is not cheaper to live stateside.

Quote from Blas89 :

+1!

+1... until this kid comes into school with a gun, shoots her for betraying him, goes on a rampage and then shoots himself.

Maybe it'd be best to just leave it alone, and if he DOES slash your tires, you'll know who it was, and have enough evidence to prove he did it.

Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :

yeah it works, sort off, but its hardly spectacular. Good cheap tool.

Well, that's not entirely true... but you're trying to make a point, so I won't argue

I'm so very confused...

Fill your tires with high-pressure, super-corrosive gas, and hope he tries to slash them before the rubber disintegrates...

Well, if it's not getting enough power, that could be the issue, but a laptop doesn't draw that much power to begin with, so I doubt that's what it is. Besides, the temperature thing is a lot more likely. LFS will pin your CPU constantly, and on a laptop - having good airflow during 100% CPU utilization for extended periods is extremely important.

Quote from gremwood :

Maybe a huge 18wheeler's engine crammed into a mini cooper . We'll also put in the gears of a uh. uh. what's insanely long?

Well, we could put a train's transmission in - which is just one gear - so that'd probably be fastest, since there's no time wasted shifting!

Next time you run LFS, start this program first and run it in the background. It'll create a text log of your CPU temperatures in whatever folder it's placed in (it's a small .exe file.) Just put it on your desktop. The next time your computer shuts down while playing, you'll have a log of the temperatures on your desktop as a .txt file, and you'll easily be able to see if it's an overheating issue - and that really sounds like what it is.

Quote from St4Lk3R :

hehe, you're talking about pretty much all modern fighters here. I think even the russians have already built something purposely unstable. Good thing is: these things do not run Windows

Exactly. I was thinking about the Eurofighter Typhoon, but pretty much all modern military aircraft are the same way at this point.

The sad thing is he's probably gonna crash his brand new Impreza, and I'll still be stuck with my old car

All I know is I'm glad that the Giants won. That almost-sack leading to the helmet catch was just incredible.

Yeah - here's a perfect example:

My GAMING RIG (2.8 Ghz AMD FX-62): 31.468 seconds
My TABLET PC (2.0 Ghz Intel Core2D): 26.015 seconds

The AMD is, spec-wise, 40% faster and yet, performance-wise, it's 20% slower.

The FX series was originally cheap and faster than anything when I got it. Since then, Intel has completely trumped them. I just don't plan on upgrading anytime soon because a) I'd need a new motherboard and b) this processor is still plenty fast enough that I can wait for Intel prices to come down, or for AMD to do something spectacular (yeah, right.)

Quote from J.B. :

Thx for info, didn't know that. Even a bit surprising considering the über paranoid security you get at bigger airports.

Yeah, my neighbor tells me small airports are still pretty cool. When you land somewhere else (small airport) they sometimes have loaner cars there for people who fly in. All you do is park the plane and you can have the car - no fee or anything. They make so much money off aircraft fuel at small airports that they can afford to do stuff like that. Pretty cool if you ask me!

Quote from JTbo :

It could be there is perhaps need to check tensioner or adjust that, when belt and pulleys are ok and belt is tighten properly you should not need any other stuff to lubricate, silicone is something I don't put even near my cars

Hmmm... I wonder then. The silicone spray works wonders on stuff like the rubber gaskets between doors. It lubricates the rubber. It's great stuff to spray on rubber hoses under the hook to keep them from drying up and cracking. I dunno whether theres anything bad about it, but it's always worked well for me on the belt. I guess if I ever bring the car in again I'll ask them to take a peek. There's no uneven wear as far as I can see, but I'll take a closer look tomorrow (as best as I can - most of the belt is pretty well obscured in my engine.)

Lol - I was just saying what they'd charge. I'm not that clueless. Anyway - I thought you were talking about a belt for the power steering pump - not the overall belt on the front of the car. I'll check it out, but the belt was replaced 20,000 miles ago so it should be okay.

Actually, it has been squeaking lately. I tried spraying Prestone belt conditioner on it, but that make it screech like a banshee. A couple drops of silicone spray solves the problem - but only for a few days. I know there are no cracks in it at least, because I did look for that when it started squealing.

Well if that's the case I don't have a life either. For the past two physics lectures here, I've been so bored, I modeled a 3D version of the little interactive vote clickers that every student has. I like to do silly stuff like that all the time. Here's my initials in a block of wood!

Quote from JTbo :

So it does come only when you turn steering wheel with revving or is revving alone enough to make it?

Timing belt tensioner can do noises if just revving does it (ie without steering), also any of belts really.

One thing you could check is how tight powersteering pump belt is and is there any glazing that could slip and that could be source of sound.
New belt is not too expensive, I guess, but I don't know how possible it is to replace it as engine sits quite low and there is lot of stupid nonsense stuff on way, pun intended

I guess 70 is for one hour work, typical minimum here too (well 55-60 euros but we live in tax hell), surely we can find way to save that, if it does not require new parts and if you are willing to get your hands dirty that is

No, revving alone is not it. It makes the noise ONLY when revving WHEN I turn the wheel. To be honest, I don't even know where I'd look, and I'm not at all knowledgeable enough about the mechanics to start taking things apart. As for the $65 charge, I'd understand it if it was for even 15 minutes of work, but they will charge you just to plug into the ECU and read an engine code - which is what, 30 seconds? Ridiculous.

I'll just keep an ear out for it and see if it crops up again.

Quote from atlantian :

and i can get past ice patches okey, just a month ago i raced someone in the snow, uphill AND downhill sections...

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can say now, after that statement, that will make me believe you are even mildly intelligent. I have an AWD Subaru, and even I don't dare race on public roads in the winter. That's just... stupid.

Well, went out today. It's a good 15 degrees warmer today - if that matters, and I didn't hear it at all. Turned the wheel, and no bubbles came out. Although last time I had been driving a lot longer before the noise appeared, so IDK. Will let it go and see what happens.

Quote from [RF]-art555 :

rofl! Imagine airbag shooting out everytime you crash in LFS? You're gonna have quite a punched look all the time then

That would be a great idea. If it actually hurt, maybe people wouldn't crash as much :P

Quote from Dac :

the steering wont get much heavier with normal driving, in fact youd never notice it apart from the noise.

edit: open the cap and turn the wheel lock to lock and see if any air bubbles come out of it.

I'll do that first thing with my friend next time I go out. How would air get in? Does that usually mean a leak, or that the pump is going bad or what?

Quote from Dooonster :

common problems with most cars has it being hot recently?

check the belt is it tight?
How to check it because it will feel tight to u.
spray some Wd40 on the belt if it stops making the noise u know ur problem

take a photo for me of what the parts are that it connects to on ur engine so that i can think of all the possible things.


if there was air in the pump the steering would get heavy then light then heavy

when does this occur most cold, hot after long drive first thing in the morning?

and last think of the sound does it sound like some of the old buses like a loose belt or does it sound like a quick loud high pitched scream at certain RPM

i know u said its when u rev but where in the range of RPM?

and also do u have the Air con on ? could be that too

and lastly do you loose any performance on a normal drive? like power?
to check this get ur fav song on make it night have the high beams on pump up the volume and floor it, if you have power issues it should feel restricted or like there is something wrong and the alternator light will come on. also if u have the wd40 handy spray a bit around the pulleys.

oo and before i forget last check hows the brake pads? if its when u move could be them.

i haven't really worked on them cars but thats what i can think of send me a few pics and ill ask some of my mates and see if they know of any common problems they have delt with.

hope it helps mate BTW did you know that a not even a third of that money that u give the dealer goes to the mechanic?

when i started my apprenticeship i was paid 2.50pounds an hour the uk industrial minimum wage and we charged 55pounds an hour labor lol

Next chance I get, I'll see if my phone will record the noise. Thanks for all the ideas, but I'm fairly confident it isn't anything other than the pump or the belt. There are no other side effects other than the noise. I don't think the steering got any heavier when the noise occurred. What I can say is that the more gas I give, the louder it is. As soon as I turn the wheel, that's when it makes the sound. We just had an ice storm yesterday, but it's been a lot colder these past few weeks than it was yesterday, so I don't think the cold is the issue.

When it first cropped up, I topped off the power steering fluid thinking that might be the issue, and went driving around. After awhile the sound stopped, so I thought that may have fixed it, but then it came back again.

I was out driving yesterday. We went to a few stores, so there was lots of stopping and starting and I think at least an hours worth of driving involved before the noise appeared. I can say that the engine does not lose power, I did not have the aircon on, it's not an electrical issue - I think, because I wasn't having any other problems, and it's most definitely not the brakes.

Maybe it does have air - but the steering does not get heavy at all.

I'll take a vid next time I go out. Thanks again for the help.