Old?? It's still in development Yes, the code was started before dual core but that doesn't mean it can't be added. Possibly?

Don't have a clue... Did that even make sense to lerts?

To the OP: You need to be running the latest Patch X version of LFS S2 then use your unlock code to unlock the S1 content. Always use the latest S2 version to get the latest physics etc, but your unlock code will only let you access the S1 content eg cars/tracks within. Just to clarify

Sorry for the bump.. Any takers?

+1 for stalling at least. Soon please...?

The game has now been given an AO (Adults Only) rating in the US, which means it is unlikely to be sold in mainstream stores.

The sensible thing for Rockstar to do would be online/Steam distribution (even in the UK). That way they keep a bigger chunk of the profits too.

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Kev summed it up, lets all just go and beat the crap out of the censors with sports equipment

You get the baseball bats, I'll fire up the Batmobile!

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Judging by your last two posts, your opinions seem to be governed by the laws that enforce them. If pedophilia became legal tomorrow...

I'll stop you there, because that would never happen and is beside the point.

Anyway, I hate arguing. Let's just hug.

The whole videogame violence topic is a huge can o' worms and everyone has strong opinions on it so we can argue till we're blue in the face but what would it achieve? Bottom line is the fact that's it's banned makes no odds as those who want it will torrent it and those who don't want it won't care.

Nice one, cheers.

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Sadistic murders aren't a crime? The censorship of this game has nothing to do with the crimes it depicts?

Sorry, you missed the point again. SHOWING sadistic murders isn't illegal. SHOWING rape, paedophilia and child abuse is illegal.

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no point during reading a book, listening to a song or watching a film am I actually acting out the murder myself (through a joypad or whatever means), that is what differentiates "virtual reality" from pages of text or a cinema.

YOU weren't, but in a film the actors were. Does that make them sadistic too?

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I'm sorry sir, but pedophilia, rape and child abuse are all crimes and have nothing to do with censorship.

Quite right. Even with no censorship organisation at all, games couldn't show paedophilia, rape or child abuse because those are already rightly covered under obscenity laws AFAIK.

Crashgate: If it was banned for that reason, I'd be all for it!

Glad that I'm not the only sensible person around here

Whoever said that the focus should not be on banning games but making sure game age limits were enforced is 100% right.

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Remove limits and you invite "entertainment" involving paedophilia, rape and child abuse to be publicly available too. Yeah, let's remove all censorship and give Gary Glitter the game he's always wanted! Edit: On the subject of age limits, they can never be effectively enforced. Once it's in the household the entire family can see it.

I think you misread the point. The point is, games should have the same freedom as books and films. The point wasn't "let's remove all limits on everything". Re your edit, sure the whole family can see it, but the parents CAN prevent kids from playing it! A little bit of responsibility etc.

Sadly, you can bet your ass the Daily Hate... I mean, Daily Mail will be running this story on the front page tomorrow, with some beaming politician ass-hat ranting about the evils of videogames to win votes.

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VW RB4(on PaTChX-TeST SeRVeR!)(thanks tijay)

No problem, thanks for the drunken linkage!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/eng ... eicestershire/6767623.stm

This is pretty silly IMO.

Adults should have the right to choose what they play and make informed decisions, and censorship is an unwelcome form of control as why should anyone else decide what I can do/view as long as what I do isn't illegal or causing harm?

The poor kid that got killed didn't die because the murderer played Manhunt, he died because the murderer ballsed up a robbery and just happened to have played the game in his free time. If he'd never played Manhunt, the killing still would have happened.

So am I right or wrong? Either way, I'm quite outraged as I thought society had evolved from primitively banning things and ridiculous censorship was something from the past.

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If it was possible to disable it then i'd like for that to be based on LFS' existing bandwidth detection system (like when starting a new game). I'm all for supporting 56k users on 32 car hosts - really, it's a great idea to have cars lagging all over the place

Dialup pings are sometimes as good as poor broadband pings, though.

If you can do a System Restore in safe mode it would repair it. (damn it, CSU!)

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reinstalling windows might be quicker than screwing around trying to fix the problem. Im never installing SP2 again because when i do windows starts to play up and do weird stuff, so ive found just leaving it always works best for me.

Also if your PC has a support disc, run that and choose to repair the Windows installation and it'll keep all your documents.

Could also be getting too hot, although this is unlikely if it crashes at the same time every time.

I don't usually request skins, but this one is something special. McLaren have customised a kart for Hamilton and are selling it on eBay. If someone could do this skin for the MRT, I'd be most grateful

Attached are the only pictures of the kart I could find:

Apparently it's Green Alternative Transport week over here next week.

So obviously I will be making a point of driving everywhere and revving it as high as I damn well like.

I want to try this. Did you use Sony Vegas?

Looks incredible and real btw! Reminds me of GTR2 night. I hope real LFS night looks this good.

I drive better with a personalised skin and black rims for some reason. Also, all the other colour rims look crap If I don't have a decent skin for the car and I just drive a plain one my driving is as insignificant as the skin.

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I had my worst (or best) nightmare when i was 13 years old. Everything statrs when I was feeling I sleep ... a round of 2 minutes everything disappeared

Thats's a hypnagogic hallucination, commonly experienced during sleep paralysis but also on its own without the paralysis when waking up/falling asleep. This is commonly experienced by all of us as hypnic jerks when falling asleep.

As for the octopus on the bookcase thing, I read it some "tales of the unexplained" encyclopedia thing years ago. Now I know it was a result of sleep paralysis.

Interestingly I was talking to a girl I know last night (when I was too scared to sleep, thank you guys and Wikipedia!) about this and she said she had experienced sleep paralysis and the hallucinations separately- the SP felt like someone had their hand round her neck and she couldn't move (typically it lasted a minute) and the hallucination was of a ghost girl which was gone when she looked again. It's more common than i thought. Fascinating stuff to read about but scares you when you get into bed!

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Fascinating. If I could get into lucid dreaming, I would be asleep much more often

There's plenty of ways to do it- what you were describing in the WILD method that involves sleep paralysis. There's less scary ways to do it than that, look on Wiki

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Where about do you live TJ?

Essex in a mid-sized town near Michael Barrymore's old(?) house.

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make a pole. i know what il vote for.

I'm worried that would make me a 'regular poster' and therefore gain a place on the sadness ratings. I'm only posting more because it's study leave I swear!