Quote from Becky Rose :

And we mock you. Repeatedly.

Cop-out.


EDIT: My mini-bar looks like Cadbury's Cream Egg

Yum I like cream eggs =P

Quote from DodgeRacer :

Im just relaying information mike helton said at the press conference when the COT debuted...the fi question came up many times and those were his reasons

No I know, I am saying thats just BS. They don't want to change over to FI because all the tech guys will have to learn a new technology. There are plenty of other leagues out there that run FI without major problems. Money will always find a way but FI cannot be any harder than carbs to check, just have to have the right technology.

Pretty, well look at the other NASCAR cars out now those are not very pretty either =P It's definatly not pretty but looks more like a car than the ones do now.

Hehe thanks

You would be suprised =P

I don't know about FTP throttling but I would think more along the lines of General throttling. For the average person this isn't a big deal.

They get a big pipe for cheap from BT. They do a couple downloads, no biggie. After the newness wears off all they do is surf the net which takes very little bandwidth at all. BT saw this that their networks were populated but throughput was slow, so they make a rule that if someone doesn't use X bandwidth per hour they throttle the connection down so the bandwidth can be used for someone elses connection so they can fit even more people onto their boxes =P

I do too =) Then when other leauges get them I can cram as many as I can onto one line =P

specator?!?!?! I am not a spectator. Sam get your facts strait =P

Quote from DodgeRacer :

they cannot go to fuel injection from all that i have heard and read. to hard to enforce the rules, makes room for t/c, would just create a mess....there is nothing wrong with the engines of nascar, they make enough hp, and they cant get much higher with the current config because its so precisly engineered, so nascar doesnt have to worry about teams finding 5mph over a season and going to fast to be safe, if we started over with fi (beyond the fact it would cost billions to do) keeping the speeds in check would be near impossible

Well thats not true there are other leagues running crate engines from say GM like the LS2 or LT1 that crank out 450 HP factory. I am sure they could design an engine thats sealed that uses fuel injection with sufficient HP to push these cars.

I think they don't want to do Fuel injection because NASCAR has always been about carbs. It has nothing to do about T/C or rules. They could just seal the engine up and make everyone run the same engine. ASA does this now I feel very effectivly. I love watching ASA those cars come off the corners soooo much harder than any car with carbs strapped on.

I kind of like the car, the front end is very weird with that splitter on it but with the widshield back up to normal its starting to look like a real car again. It will be good to see how this shakes down during the next season.

The more specific question I want to ask is what does GPL offer us that LFS does not have in terms on the venue experience?

Quote from SamH :

I'm really surprised at the lack of take-up for this idea, and I'm a bit disappointed. Not just because I'm beginning to feel like the STCC is sticking out like a sore thumb, with a lot of resentment (because people don't bother to read threads, Joe! ) but also because userbars are a REALLY GOOD way to promote LFS, off the LFS forum.

When I came up with the idea of a dynamically delivered STCC userbar, it was particularly (if you'll please read the first post again) for people to use on other forums. This creates a hook to LFS, and this is what I wanted to do. I figured if the userbar was generated automatically, it'd provide a bit of extra incentive to use it, too. I still think a userbar that changes when your licence progresses is quite cool.

I'm grateful that Victor saw the value in it too, and chose to create the BBcode to enable it on this forum. If anyone wants help creating THEIR league userbars, (and making it dynamic if they want) I'll gladly help them do it. I'll even give them hosting for the graphic if they genuinely can't do it themselves. We've a spare terabyte at UKCT, which I'll happily give to promoting LFS, both on the LFS forum AND on any other forum/webpage. That's what this project was launched to do, after all.

[edit] Yes, AND to promote the STCC. The two are inextricable. MY motivation is invariably to promote LFS, as a starting point.

I hope other leagues start seeing the potential in this aswell =) Shame people's ego's get in the way....

It's LAN but to me sounds more like how a karting experience would go =P

Would be fun to have a LAN party though sometime, followed by beer,followed closely after by more driving =) Would be great fun.

I agree totally =) Nobody has any real GPL experience and another LFS config would be fun =)

I definatly get this. It's really bad at a start of a league season when you don't know the drivers very well and don't know what they will do. I still get sweaty palms a bit at the start of the STCC races. I was so bad last race I forgot to put a setup on teh car and I had to qualify with the default setup! =)

Invite here pls also =) vipercar93@yahoo[.]com

I like it except about having to play GPL. I guess I will get the game and give it a try to see if I can relate anything from LFS into GPL, hopefully I could score a decent result in GPL =)

I would prefer to run completely LFS but I would be flexabile with this.

They are but there is a reason =P Not everyone can keep the car on the track =P Even I have major issues sometimes. Not saying that they are not fun to drive though. I really enjoy the LX6 once I can keep the rear end planted.

I don't drive the single seaters much but from what I have seen not many people can effectivly handle the BF1, maybe a Fv8 server first?

Thinking about it maybe there could be a single seater version of the STCC tiered servers? I don't know how well it would fly though, also I don't know how many people actually use the FoX, Fv8 and BF1 to see if there would be any people on it. Would be a great idea though in the future maybe.

Ouch your a good 3-4 hour drive from me. I was going to offer to pick you up but I would it just wouldn't work out.

The offer is there for anyone going. I live near oxford and I am willing to carpool anyone down there within reasonable distance of me. Sure hope I have my car here by then... driving cars with no HP suck...

Quote from z3r0c00l :

I raced at the LRF server last night.

I had a really good time.

(Watch out for the Muroc team though...)

Not all of them, your safe if I am online, I can't hurt a fly in the LRF cars, well maybe a barrier or 3 =)

Muroc has a buddy list on our website and I use it all the time, can even autojoin from the website =)

Quote from Bob Smith :

Check first post, you're already on:

Doh! First first post, I checked the one on page 3.... stupid me :doh:

@Bigben there are plenty of league races out there that you can join, you just have to look for them and they are not going to be as big as say MoE or STCC. I have seen many leagues where there are free spots to race. You just have to look and find the right one. there is Fake DTM to name one thats really fun to do, I did that while I was in the states.

Saying there are not any leagues for you to run in is just an excuse. Just look for them. You may have to learn a new car but at least your league racing and getting valuable league time which would allow you to enter into the better leagues.

GPL? I want LFS, if I wanted to play GTL I would be on a GTL forum =P

I am game for this, sounds interesting.

:edit: Bob my email was intended for me to be put on the list if you didn't =P

Hehe =)

Thanks Victor =) I have always enjoyed having pics in sig =)

True, but you could do the same thing with putting in bigger injectors. Yes latency is more noticable in low RPM's but this continues throughout the whole RPM band, not just low RPM's. You change altitude at all with carbs you would have to pop the hood and adjust your needles to get the best fuel/air mixture. With injectors this would all be automatically be controlled via a computer. Granted with the computer you would have to find the correct mapping but once thats done you wouldn't have to do anything.

I do like the sound of carbs but the I feel the gains from fuel injection is much greater than missing out on the nice sounds =)