Quote from ajp71 :

Wasn't GP4 (slightly) more realisitic than F1C?

lol, it's like :fence: on this for years, but they are both pretty old sims these days, anyways, as long as everyone finds his true love...

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Actually no, he's right. You need to make sure you have all the facts before saying someone else's post is unintelligent Laptimes say nothing about the fundamental realism of a sim. If you think that getting around a track in the same amount of time means realism, then we differ on our opionion of what true realism is. Realism is realtime calculations, not table lookups. Also, gamer mag ratings are beyond useless, and not aimed at the niche that a true driving simulator is. Not trying to sound brash

It always helps to hear different opinions, for what I think laptimes have to do with realism, please check my last post in this thread. And since we are both S2 licensed, it may be safe to say we do not differ too much on what true realism is.

I feel quite sure that it will be within 18 seconds at split1, so here it goes

split1---17.46
split2---20.30
split3---15.01

lap time---52.77

Last edited by wE1l, Wed 19 Apr 2006, 17:33.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Yes I agree totally that F1C is the most realistic F1 sim out there at the moment. But it's also as realistic at simulating F1 (and all the car dynamics involved) as this lump of cheese *points to lump of cheese*

Accurate lap times DO NOT mean it's realistic, it just means the developers have made it so that accurate times are generated. A realistic sim will produce realistic times (with consideration that you'll always be able to go slightly faster in a sim ultimately), but it doesn't work the other way around.

Oh, and I played F1C, realised it was relatively arcade nonsense, and deleted. I think it went as a part exchange for some other game that enjoyed a lot more.

Good for you then. Glad we both find LFS more realistic. I agree that similar lap times do not necessarily mean a good sim, but to be a decent sim lap times can't be too far-fetched IMO. How I want a rl circuit for a comparison!

Hi guys, I really don't want to make this thread dig into F1C, but just for the record F1C, which is a 3 years old sim, is still the most realistic F1 sim out there. For whom thinking it ain't a proper sim, I kinda feel sorry for you not being able to have the fun that thousands have. For whom saying lap times are restricted by fudging the physics, that's about the most unintelligent post I've seen around here. For whom reckon that lap times in F1C are a lot faster tha rl, I'd suggest you take a look at www.findthelimit.com And JFYI, pcgamer who gave LFS 92% gave F1C 91%.

Back on topic, I am just afraid that BF1 runs too fast that it would set a ridiculous lap time on a rl track. Imagine a 1:30.xxx at Spa with a F1 car...

any of you aware of the permanent can't-get-full-throttle problem with momo (barring dfp perhaps)?

am using a MS sidewinder ff, £30 pounds, second hand, sturdy like a tank.

I am very concerned, since it's one of the most obvious ways to judge how realistic a racing sim is.

Take F1C for example, the lap times the top sim drivers do are amazingly close to those real life F1 drivers do. Now with possibilities to add a real-life circuit into LFS, I am really curious to find out how it goes.

I doubt it though, judging by the behaviou of FO8, in which you could take some fast corners flat-out, the bumpy feeling and the sound of tyre scratching aren't quite right methinks.

We don't know the answer, so please feel free to discuss!

Quote from xFMFxShortY :

here´s my first try @ the BF1
its not perfect, it was just a train

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2769/vorschau3ow.jpg

Awesome! What a maiden post!

Quote from [RCG]Boosted :

this track is 23 km long....to long for me :sleep2:

used to drive it in F1C, nearly impossible to remember the whole track, some corners are just so like each other, never completed a timed lap.

Quote from afastest :

The track could possibly be popular among the most serious lfs racers and long endurance races. Something not for majority of LFS-ers.

Majority? Do u even know how many LFSers are there?

Quote from neo force KP61 :

maybe im dreaming too high here, but man how good would it be if we had it im just back from a trip there, and i wanna drive it in LFS! will we ever see an LFS nordshleife or am i illepall ?

I am very optimistic for it to appear in S3, and hopefully as early as S2.

Quote from EeekiE :

I'm more than happy for it to be released it stages, and I'm willing to hand over a few quid every now and again for them to keep developing it further.

Thing is we can't hand over the quids if S2 won't end, we have a S2 license not a S2 Alpha license, don't we?

The other day I was trying to see if I could add a few more credits to my account but failed. But devs do not seem like to be needy atm

S2 Alpha has been there for a while, and with this major update we are still at alpha phase, it certainly bodes well for the prospect of the game, it's getting better and yet still called an "alpha"!

Just wondering whereabout are we now, I mean will there be another patch for S2 Alpha? Or will the next step see S2 Beta?

Long live devs!

Drive around bl1 with F1 and FO8 to see the changes. And maybe later to have a look at the wr table, might be a total mess there.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I may have adjusted that quote, to make it more accurate.

Your right, P-day comes today!

Quote from speedykev :

watch a lap of the F1 car.
just click private lap with jacques villeneuve video on the left.
http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/en/index.html

Anyone has any idea what platform is JV driving on in that vid? A private simulator owned by an F1 team? I want it!

Quote from -ale- :

Hi!

I just bought the S2 license after playing a few hours of the demo, the game is awesome and I was always searching for a more realistic racing simulator, so I couldn't resist. I'm a racing fan and I'm very familiar with racing etiquette, although since I'm quite new to the game and I'm having some issues with my wheel, I'm rather slow.

Ok, now the questions:

Is there a server that welcomes slower but fair drivers wishing to learn or just wanting some fun playing fair? I just want to enjoy driving a car as fast as I can... But I'm afraid to join a random server coz I'm too slow yet.

The other question is about my steering wheel, it's an USB Driving Force for PS2 which I used in my PC and it worked somewhat fine (LOL), although the force feedback isn't working in the game. But well, the question is that if it's possible to make the pedals less sensible? when I press like 10% of the gas pedal it reaches a really high rpm, almost the maximum...same for brake pedal, I just barely touch it and the car is locking the tires. That's a pain when dealing with more powerful cars.

Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading
See you
Ale

Hi Ale,

Welcome to the LFS community! You do not sound like a n00b at all, and I think a serious sim racing driver is welcomed in any server.

For a hint, maybe you should try to drive some laps to familiarize yourself with the cars and tracks, and trainning mode of the game isn't a crappy one.

Hope you enjoy!

Quote from spookthehamster :

Heck, maybe we'll have wet tyres for s3

That's a must-have IMO, even in F1C (made by ISI three years ago) you have various tires to choose from, and they do perform in their own way very well.

We are really a bunch of desperate LFSers.

oh dear, may i know how u guys found these links in the first place??

Quote from SID135 :

All i have to say is lol


oh, and PRESS SHIFT+F4!!!
(if all elce fales, alt+ctrl+del, you have to press them four times, fast)

Be cautious tho, this guy joined the forum almost three years ago, and his username is *f1simfam*!

Quote from sturje :

I'm gonna go ahead and speculate some more.

"But who needs a minute in blackwood"

Its almost like they are saying why do we need to use blackwood, i have a sneaking suspicion that perhaps another track for the new F1 might appear. Of course this is massive speculation so don't hold me to it

Gotta say a F1 on the oval is gonna be an absolute blast.

Valid speculation. Though I think devs are coming to an end of teasing now that we are reaching a spiritual high in terms of this blackwood guessing game. It seems to be a perfect timing to release the patch tomorrow, except if they could present a real life GP circuit to go with it. But that would be a very far cry indeed.

Quote from spookthehamster :

Is anyone else terrified at the idea of driving an F1 style car around BLGP? I've made cars that can do 200mph with Mechanik and they're horrible to drive, but that's mainly because of tyre issues, hopefully that's been sorted out. Traction control would probably needed in a 750bhp RWD car too

Well, terrified no, electrified yes. And I would be vapourized if they add a GP circuit in.

Quote from axus :

Fair enough but those people should just think that once it is out it will be even more than they expected.

WE ARE GETTING A REAL F1 CAR IN LFS!

What more info do you want for one day?

That is a huge step IMO, giving us more picture on how s3 will look like, well in my dreams we would see all major motor sport championships F1/GTR/GP2/ETCC in one F briliant sim. Am I dreaming too much here?

What more for tomorrow? I for one, would like see Nurburgring GP circuit.

Sorry, I've gone too far.

Quote from balee :

Oh, yes, seems I'm blind...

take it easy m8, never meant to offense, was trying to help u actually...

anyways, who's gonna ever make PIPMNINI to work with LFS?