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wE1l
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Quote from Marty502 :AAAAAAARGH!!!!!

I almost died watching the WR BF1 clip!!!!!!

Man, what a blast!!

I
WANT
THE
DAMN
LICENSE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

Why it still shows your a demo driver?

But you know, I think it looks better than it handles. Sometimes you could even drift the car, which is...... ( I thinik you could spot that on the vid, the car's sliding too much as for a Formula One car )
wE1l
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Very funny to see Renault got fooled by Ferrari, Michael did a fantastic drive, interesting to see it's almost the reverse of last year at the same place. I like this race.
wE1l
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Quote from TagForce :
And believe me, I am a 100% race fan. Anything that has 4 wheels and goes fast I love.

Oh my god, gotta be the quote of the month.

Last GP in Australia was hell fun, openning lap saw a huge battle between Alonso/Button/JPM/Raikkonen for P1, Button despite his tyre temprature problem beautifully defended his position and led the first lap, then safety car came out b/c accidents at the back, when it went in Alonso made a well timed overtaking down on the backstraight, and Button suddenly under great pressure from Raikkonen and JPM, who as teammates, battled each other big time.......safety car came no less than three times......at last guess what, Button's engine blew spectacularly 100 meters before finish line.
wE1l
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This is what I call TELEMETRY

Firstly thanks for the info guys.

But if that's what you call TELEMETRY, I think I will have to show you some idea on what is a proper one in my vocabulary.

Figure 1 to figure 3 are based on a test at Silverstone with an Arrow F1 car.(Courtesy of RacerAlex setup guide)
Figure 4 to figure 7 are based on a lap at Barcelona with a F2004 without TC.



Figure 1.E. Alexander’s 1m21s509 front ride height trace over C. Wynn’s 1m19.853 reference lap. In the above trace you can see how the front is bottoming at seven distinct points during the lap. This will require raising the front ride height slightly.



Figure 2. The above Chassis Slip Angle trace shows the added grip the car has achieved after some changes on the antiroll bar and front wing angle. Note the grip is not rail-like, but rather, the car handles better by breaking away slower and more gradually, allowing the
cars limit to exploited easier. This is reflected in the top right trace: note how in the highlighted Abbey section, the 1m19s197 lap (green) has much more slip than the slower 1m20s612 lap (yellow). The friction circle in the lower right corner shows how this increased slip allows a higher lateral acceleration to be maintained. The Velocity trace shows the car's averaging almost 5mph more through Abbey now.



Figure 3.Incremental time difference: Gray = C.W. 1m19.987; red = E.A. 1m21m506; yellow = E.A. 1m20s612 In the above trace it can be seen that E.A was losing time at Stowe, Club, and Abbey. There is a second and a half to be had there.



Figure 4. Suspenstion Travel



Figure 5. Throttle, brake and wheelspin overview



Figure 6. General gearbox information



Figure 7. Engine RPM vs Velocity and time distribution of RPM
wE1l
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Quote from ekze :calm down mate! of course i know that, just kidding... :rolleyes:

Nothing, I was not heated up, so no need to calm down.
wE1l
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Quote from ekze :Yep! NFSU is streetracing simulation...
illepall

do u even know that the developer behind F1C is ISI, the author of rFactor?

and what a shame that someone who likes LFS doesn't even know NFS is an arcade game.

for all it worth, I quote wikipedia---

The EA Sports F1 Series is five racing simulation games based on Formula One motorsport.

Need for Speed (NFS) is a series of racing computer and video games by Electronic Arts
wE1l
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Quote from TagForce :Correction: What is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsports...
It's the pinnacle of fast cars and drivers, yes, but not motorsports.

F1 is generally considered to be the pinnacle of motorsports, or more specifically, of open wheel racing. It's widely accepted, but not everyone thinks so. That's a correction to your like, not really a "correction".

Quote from TagForce :
If anything, the BF1 has shown me just how boring F1 today is, and exactly why it is boring. There's no overtaking, the cars accelerate too quickly and equally with TC, and the brakes are exceptional, so late braking is a matter of inches rather than meters. Although the occasional "terrific move" happens in F1, it's mostly a matter of desperately trying to pass that slower car rather than actual racing.

Do you watch this year's formula one? Or did you watch last race at Albert Park in Melbourn? If you claim there's no overtaking after you watched a race or two this season, I would think you're kind of illepall .

Quote from TagForce :
Mind you, from a driver's point of view, the BF1 is a wet dream for the exact same reasons it's (even in LFS) boring to watch from the sidelines.

The speed and look of the BF1 just totally blew me away, from a driver's point of view this machine is bloody quick and the brake is like hell. Boring? No. Exactly the opposite.


Quote from TagForce :
So no... I won't get more interested in F1... In fact, I stopped watching the races mostly halfway through last season, and am not inclined to get back to them any time soon.

Not sure, because I am afraid you're gonna miss a lot of fun.
wE1l
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Quote from Qurpiz :Well, you know, LFS is a sim, F1C is an EA Sports game. There is a difference.

But yes, you should go online and see how much fun it can be!

For your information, F1C is a racing simulation.
wE1l
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Quote from silent_wind :do you think telemetry is a must in order to have a good setup in an F1 car ? IYO, should it be implemented in a near future ?

I think telemetry is a MUST MUST for a serious sim, unfortunately that's another weak point of LFS.
wE1l
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Whatever skin you wear, it is still BMW steering wheel that you see when you sit in the cockpit.
wE1l
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Quote from DeeS :ok so what is the price for winner?;]

we have got some result "speculation" . here you go ;]

so what the price for winner ?:]


SparkyDave 48.67
Tukko 49.82
eindewege 55.00
Ingolf 1.00.0
spoop 49.560
DodgeRacer 49.50
DeeS 52.60
wE1l 52.77
csimpok 52.89
JJ72 54.00
ayrton senna 87 54.10
Jakg 53.52(5)
snellejowan 52.00
Winkel 48.75

hie hie;]

good job, it seems csimpok is the closest for the moment, but i think i will win in the end.
wE1l
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I am OK with the new fonts, in fact I think they're pretty cool.
wE1l
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Quote from ayrton senna 87 :can u post it on here pls?

from lfsworld.net, u could download all replays of the wr, and when viewing the replay, press esc to select "test drive", that's how i do it, with my own setup, i can't make it into 55 after several tries.
wE1l
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can do 55s with csimpok's setup, it is very comfortable
wE1l
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wr for now is 54.00 :P
wE1l
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First impression---BF1 kicks a$$
wE1l
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Quote from Dygear :56.75, with a mouse .

57.79, with a wheel.

Love it!
wE1l
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Quote from vladimir : i am sure it will be released in the next couple of hours.



LOL, you better be sure, otherwise people will :banghead: for real.
wE1l
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update, new dedi added
wE1l
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Quote from maxwolfie! :7:30pm +10 Est

15 hours from now? And source?
wE1l
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Quote from thisnameistaken :That's the whole point - nobody outside of F1 knows. It certainly used to happen, and modern F1 is all about "the spectacle" rather than "the racing", so it is probably more likely to happen now than it ever was before.

You basically can't trust F1 as being proper sport. It's like boxing - it's just a big stupid media bullshit event tarted up to look like sport.

if it's like what you said, then wicked may be the word. however chances are very low in my opinion, from my observation, it no longer is the case.
wE1l
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Quote from JTbo :Thank you, that was explaining a lot, also can't stop laughing

Now what a world would be without silly teenagers, pretty boring place I guess

np, the fourth version is quite hilarious, although whoever made that seemed rather serious
wE1l
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Quote from thisnameistaken :Team orders, sure. Got to love it when Barrichello wins races and moves over to gift it to Schumacher. And it's nice the way the FIA judges penalties based on how the championship is going - like reinstating a driver's points to make for a closer competition.

There's also the less-subtle stuff, like when Mansell got pole position at Adelaide in 1994, and Bernie Ecclestone told him to let Hill and Schumacher past at the start. I wonder how many other events like that have been engineered by the management without the spectators knowing anything about it

How often does that happen? I haven't been following F1 for that long but I couldn't see things like Bernie telling drivers to back off happening in today's F1. Farewell to those good old/stupid days.
wE1l
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Quote from thisnameistaken :Except when the racing is fixed.

How, team orders and the like? Or sometimes dominant cars on the grid? Genuinely confused, sorry.
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