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rcpilot
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Quote from CardsetCrazy :Same feeling. I haven't liked FFB in this game but that SLS have best feeling of all cars imo. Feels closest to LFS FFB.

Try some other cars, too. They actually changed the entire set of tire models & FFB interactions I think, and things are pretty great all around now. Did a 20 lap race in the 312t @ Imola and felt right at home swinging the ass end around and pounding over curbs even with all of Imola's tricky sections.
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rcpilot
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• The correct lap: 71
• The cars (/teams) involved: 04 & 03
• The lap/sector/time: Last corner
03 does a deep dive into the final corner which starts a wreck that puts 04 out of the race.
rcpilot
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Session of Incident: Race
Timecode of incident: 1:41:21 (mpr)
Lap of incident: 94
Your Car Number: 30
Other Car(s) Involved: 99
Brief Description of incident: 99 dive bombs me into the corner, and we tangle and go off track.
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rcpilot
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Will there be an IRC channel this time around?
rcpilot
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Quote from eimer_ :Having said that, i still want to thank everyone who was involved in this, no matter if you made this possible or if you "just" drove. I enjoyed every second once again. I´m just loving these events!

Oh, and my opinion on disconnect-penalties:

- first of all, I wouldn´t change rules half way or even after the race. if you think this penalty is too harsh, don´t give it in the next race. but this time, everyone knew what to expect. It was in the rules.

- second, the penalty came up for a reason. think of a team who´s got a damaged engine or a car on the roof. they might want to shift-p or shift-s to get a new car, even at the expense of a penalty lap. now if there was an alternative way of leaving the track without a penalty, they would use that alternative. the alternative would simply be: unplug the network cable on your machine. time-out. quickly plug it back in and rejoin.

so if you don´t want people to do that, you´d have to lift the 1 lap penalty for shift-p as well. and i don´t think you want to do that ...


edit: of course noone can force team alternate to take the price. if they want to give it to the second place, what a nice gesture

It was always in the rules that disconnect penalties would be reviewed. Just too many people in these leagues have reading deficiencies. (Including our gt2 squad )
Quote :For disconnect, or Shift+P there will be a lap removed from your result. (If you have real troubles with the connection we could change your penalty, that your race isn't over after that.)

rcpilot
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Can we get a clearer SC rule? I just followed what nearly everyone did last race during the 2nd SC and kept my pace reasonably quick on the way to the pits. Normally not out of place, but it seems Phil approximated the 140 km/h SC speed which meant that I went flying off into the distance. All I wanted was to protect the gap I was building in the pit rotation and come out around my rightful 3rd, and operated under the assumption that it would be like prior races. It's a sticky situation though considering there just had to be about 5-6 seconds variance for me to come out in the lead.
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rcpilot
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Leaguing, if it's something I can quickly rectify without disturbing other parties on track I'll do it if I think I'm at fault. Otherwise, close calls or something really bad I'll just drive on and let the admins handle it.

Public servers, mostly depends on what mood I'm in with the relative carnage but I usually try to be pretty nice about my mistakes.
rcpilot
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LFS Username : rcpilot
Real Name : Corey Green
Team : CoRe Racing
Preferred Number : 52
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rcpilot
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :After review, the admins have decided that the #08 car made an ill-advised move in attempting to pass going into the bridge turn. Throughout the race, other GT1 cars lapping GT2 cars backed off in similar circumstances, knowing that it is very difficult to control your car if you are off-line in that corner, or if you are forced to lift. The #08 did not lift, despite being fully behind the GT2 car at turn-in, and the results were self-evident.

For a reckless pass attempt that resulted in damage to other teams, #08 receives a DT-equivalent 30s penalty in the final standings.

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In addition, it has come to light that R. Koots was driving with a view that precluded the use of mirrors (specifically chase view), a fact that undoubtedly contributed to the incident. In the next set of rules revisions, to be delivered prior to Round 3 at Westhill, we will institute a new rule that bans any driving view that does not allow use of mirrors. We will also ask all drivers to use mirrors, no matter what view they do choose to use.

We have no issue with the use of custom views, and have no intention to institute a FCV policy. However, we find it to be an unacceptable safety risk to drive without mirrors, particularly a multi-class series.

Don't want to drag this down into the dirt, but this decision just seems silly to me. It only took me FF'ing through half an hour of the replay I have to find only 2 instances of the same situation, each time with the GT1 driver making the same decision I did. Just normally the GT2 is capable of seeing it coming and easily makes room. Everyone else could either pull well ahead by the apex, had no chance of pulling alongside and backed out, or didn't get affected by the GT2 while behind.

And with regards to lifting, no, obviously I didn't lift to back out behind the GT2. But I did lift significantly trying to drive fully side by side at the apex, going 140 mph with little lateral load on the tires when I got pushed up into the wall (~157 is the normal speed at that point).

Plus even this from the driver of the GT2.
Quote :Yeh, it's totally my fault. Really sorry Core GT1.

I'd like to think that in MoE, an extremely wide normally flatout corner would be easy as pie to deal with. This isn't public racing.
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rcpilot
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5:12 into the race, my lap 34, lead lap 204.

#08 C.Green and #46 R.Koots

1st semi-corner under the bridge. #46 seems unaware of the presence of #08 until it's too late, squeezes #08 into the inner wall, causing #08 to spin, take right side damage, and lose at least about 14 seconds and a position all told. Original loss from the spin, plus heavy overheating on the right side tires, and the effect of the damage over the stint (not counting that, but my car wasn't right after that incident).
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rcpilot
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Quote from commandermas :Usually, but if it wouldn't be penalized there would be teams, that could use it to make "faster" pitstops. One drivers joins because there is a driverchange coming. Oh the driver on track disconnects and immediately the new driver goes out with fresh tires and without a second of pitting.

Yes, a few teams have gained from that in the past when no penalties were given and disconnects weren't reviewed. But, a lot of people are going to disconnect in the course of a 16h race with 80+ teams involved, and a vast majority of them will have their race hurt by it. Broadly giving everyone such a large penalty for a disconnect does far more harm to innocents and the overall ability to have a competitive race imo.

You don't even really have to devote admin resources to it, just make it a protestable penalty to gain from a disconnect and most competitors would be happy to cry foul.
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rcpilot
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Got a few questions/observations of my own after going through the rules.

Should disconnects really be penalized with a lap deduction? There's a case for that when it's obviously advantageous to the team involved, but usually it's just a kick when someone's already down.

'Blue Flags have to be respected immediately after the first showing.' Is this really that strict? It's often the case later in a race this long that you have people extremely closely matched on pace lapping eachother, and they can throw a blue flag for several laps before really catching up.

And finally, is passing allowed under a yellow? You seem to indicate you frown on any tomfoolery under the yellow, but you don't say you can't pass.

I'm a stickler for my rules.
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rcpilot
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One off 'retro' skin for CoRe this race:
rcpilot
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Judging from IGTC at AS7 standard, I'd say ballasts need to be at least 50kg for the FZR. The gap unballasted is something like 1.5 seconds, you don't make that up with 20kg. In fact you only make up about 1/3 of that with 20kg. The XRR should be a fraction slower over a single lap under optimal conditions because of its lighter fuel load and shorter pits, but you're talking just a couple tenths.

The IGTC ballasts are pretty good over the season, but they disadvantage the XRR far too heavily at a couple tracks. This track is definitely one of those.
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rcpilot
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Quote from Commander :Thx for the replay

well looking from both cockpit and top view he's just following the normal line not pulling agressively into you. In the cockpit he could only see you getting by when it was already too late. And please admit that there is no place for a serious attempt to overtake. That's what Mysho thought too as he didn't expect you there.

We're sorry you got off track there but this was mainly thanks to LFS collision model because the contact was only an unintentional light one.

It was unlikely that I would've managed an overtake there, but I had every right to pull up alongside for a better position to grab the draft out of the exit. Last I'm going to say because I felt I should respond, but I'd rather not dirty up a protest thread with bickering.
rcpilot
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1st sector, entrance to the double apex hairpin. Pushed towards the outside like I wasn't there.
rcpilot
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I've never heard of these 'mercury' and 'f1rst' guys... As such I recommend an automatic disqualification from the league.
rcpilot
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Quote from RS1T :if i knew that my 24 pounds was paying the dev's salaries and not towards the development of the game, then i would not have bought s2.

Where on earth do you think development money goes in the software world? All you need is a few decent computers and some dedicated workers. If you want to look at ripoffs, crunch some numbers on something like WoW where they're raking in billions per year just to keep some servers running. This... is not a ripoff.
rcpilot
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Quote from Mysho :Why is it always ending with blown tyre, why not for example engine failure... *waits for devs*

Because I stop paying attention to lockup when I'm pushing. Had 3 or 4 blown tires pushing to catch bigtime up throughout the season after some poorer starts. Been working on managing my tires a bit better early in the stint since then, tend to scrub too much and build up more heat than necessary causing the poor starts.
rcpilot
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Quote from ATC Quicksilver :Something we have to get right in here, Georgia was the aggressor, they used US training and assistance and directly targeted Russian civilians, which is a war crime. The Russian response was heavy handed, and it was clearly a message to the USA. Russia does not want a new cold war, their economy is strong, they have plenty of energy resources, they hold all the cards. The USA is in massive debt, its military is stretched thin, and they are 20 years away from an energy crises.

I love the way some people scream COMMIE! When even the most liberal American politician would be considered conservative in the rest of the world.

Shhh... the American public doesn't know who attacked first. (Not saying Russia's responses was right, but...)
rcpilot
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Quote from major_syphillis :whos talkin about using nukes?



someone needs a lesson in history. battle of britain? operations sealion? Maybe they never fully mobilized cause someone came to help, but it was inevitable.

Without US intervention, all of you guys would be speaking German right now lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sealion

The same guy who says we 'saved the world' in WWI has no right to tell anyone they need a history lesson. Foreigners do attempt to marginalize our participation in WWII, but at the same time so do we and so does everyone else. Truth be told every country put their full might into the effort so squabbling about who did what is kind of pointless. (And besides whatever you think of the USSR, they played a HUGE part in victory with their strength in resources both human and natural.)

And the idea that we should act unilaterally as 'world police' is entirely laughable. I think you may have been brainwashed by our defense industries. Trying to say that Obama will lead us to Marxism is quite insane. Trying to lay the blame for the tit for tat going on in Poland/Russia with missiles on Obama's feet is absurd beyond belief. And trying to say a volatile market that drops on pretty much any major news is Obama's fault is ridiculous. You're telling others they need to broaden their views, but I think you need to open your eyes a bit.
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rcpilot
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Quote from flymike91 :I'd like to see you look a Marine in the eyes and tell him he is losing the war and that it is another 'nam

lets call this a tie.

I'd like you to not assume that people who don't agree with a war have no sense of sacrifice or duty. Our 'bleeding heart liberal' family has served in the Civil War (Union), WWII (lost a couple here), Vietnam, and now Iraq. And if you want me to, I can probably go and get my brother post-Iraq to look you in the eye and tell you we're losing the war and that it's another 'nam. I'm so tired of this 'real america', 'country first', and whatever other delusional pseudo-patriotic rhetoric the Republicans can come up with.
rcpilot
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Quote from chanoman315 :STFU!

Well, but it's wrong, because america is the continet. Say U.S. or United States, it's easier...

Don't try to apply your language standards to another language? The continents individually should properly be referred to as North/South America or the Americas as a whole, and United Statians or something along those lines doesn't work as a construct in our language like it does in yours (clumsy and heavily ambiguous spelling/pronunciation). Besides Americans being a much more useful construct for referring to citizens of the US in every day usage (especially in English) than referring to the whole of the North/South American continents.

As some Brits are saying, UK works as a place, United Kingdomans (etc.) does not work as a reference to the populace, and citizens of the UK is unecessarily verbose. It's not an issue of pride, it's an issue of common sense, and I don't know why others in the Americas have a stick up their ass about how we use our language.

PS - I don't come from gringolandia but I don't really care what you do with the specifics of your language.

/Edit - Oh yeah, GOBAMA!
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rcpilot
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Quote from JeffR :Although homosexuality is tolerated, isn't it really a case of the brain being wired a bit wrong (or at least differently)? Almost all of the reasons used to explain why some people are homosexual also apply to pedaphiles (they were born that way). Pedaphile behavior isn't accepeted because most societies have passed moral laws based on the concept of age of consent. Homosexual behavior is now tolerated, but it doesn't need to be promoted as a normal alternative.

Even though I'm a 56 year old heterrosexual male, I'm still find 25 year old good looking girls visually attractive. Apparently I was just born that way and can't help myself, but I don't plan on trading in my wife for a new trophy wife.

Homosexuality involves consent, pedophilia is basically rape. No comparison. And what do you care about what homosexuals do anyway? It has no effect on anything you do or the validity of your marriage whether they're married or not. Laws are supposed to regulate situations where someone's rights are breached by another, not apply overreaching control on how people live their lives on a day to day basis. We've turned into a very nosy society regarding how we treat each other through regulation.
rcpilot
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<PSA>
And for future reference, if you're running an endurance event please don't post the tracker address in public areas. The existing tracker methods are pretty fickle when it comes to high load. There's a good chance we would've destroyed it anyway with how many people are involved, but having people that don't need the tracker on it doesn't help. Don't mean to be mean or single someone out, but it is something anyone who enduros in lfs should be made aware of.
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