I don`t think that time is the key. It`s the combination of track and car.
If the combo is easy, as fox on Ky oval, you gotta have more laps, than Rac on As Cadet.

When I drive a good combo, with lots of good racers, and tigth figth - I do not feel the time passing. I have sat and wondered, many times, when a race is finished "Man, did there just pass 25 minutes here"

No !

Statistics is a personal thing - Not a team thingie !?

I think that the hardest corner is the first soft right turn on As National - That corner is very very difficult to "hit perfectly" in most of the cars.

Quote from bbman :

You click shift+u, then set place objects to yes and (if you want) "hide keys" to no... Set a start line before the section you want to train (make it so you can gain enough speed before that) and a finish line after that... And off you go!

Thx !

I`ll try that instantly

EDIT :

It`s perfect for my task. I just made a startline, I can allways restart

Last edited by alland44, Sat 9 Sep 2006, 14:59.

Quote from ajp71 :

I can't see any system where you take one corner again and again ever working, you have to be concentrated to be able to learn the best line so doing laps of the circuit even if you're only focusing on one corner is much more sensible.

You could try it by pressing shift + U and putting the start position to where you want it then you'd go there everytime you reset.

Can you do that ?
Not start from the point the game chooses. Could you write down the procedure ?

And for the book - There is a loooooooong way in uf1000, on the long Aston tracks - And sometimes its just one corner that needs practising

Quote from bbman :

Make an AutoX-Layout?

No !

You have to train in the rigth environment. Auto x will not do

If you could mark out to points on a track, a + b. Then you lap the course and now you should be able to take control of the car, after it passed point a. When it passes point b - game pauses, untill a button is pressed.

Then one could train certain corners over and over and fast ! No need to go all the way round to try again, and if you press the car and crash, then you will have another go by a press on a button.

Quote from felplacerad :

A (new?) layout for those who enjoy banger-racing. See attachments for preview and .lyt!

Been there, tried it. Did one myself a year ago.
It is too long a track for uf1000.

Cut it bewtween the "heads "and make a rounding there. Then there would be more intense traffic. The problem with these big tracks, in banger racing, is : If hit, you totally loose orientation.

So if you cut in half and .... etc - Then it would still be named something with bone - But this time you`ll get banned for it

Quote from Rolle :

Does LFS-racers have a chance vs. GTRx- or rFactor-racers?

The answer to this will be given in the
Multi-simulator Racing League that will start soon

We in the Swedish Racing Mates Team will give you
the answer to this eternal question.

Each sunday until Christmas, starting september 17
we will race at classic circuits like Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, Aston,
Donington and South City etc....

All nice racers are welcome to join our friendly league


More info in our forum at
www.racingmates.se

Thanks, but no thanks !
There can be only one

The pink car crosses two lanes in the start, and smashes into the left car.
Pink car is 100% guilty.

Quote from Fir3spell :

WOW :O
Tell me about that, maybe that's what i need
What's that? and what's the function of it in the wheel?
Where can i buy that?
My problem is in the gas and brake pedals, i press the gas to the max and my car won't go to the max speed because of something and with that i just can't compete in LFS because i can't get the MAX performance of my car. Maybe it's just the rubbers or something in the pedals that are broken.

Thanks in advance guys and please give me an awnser

Look here, before buying a new steeringwheel :

http://web.axelero.hu/mozso/momo_e1.html

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=572

How to fix the "broken" pedals. Mine is suffering from the same problems, not so much yet - But !?

Not much

2096x1536 32bit 75 hz and aa and af on sted three of 4.

Quote from al heeley :

Yes indeed you do, just as he has every right to compare LFS to a game. If you are prepared to criticise people for their views, then others have exactly the same right to criticise you for yours.

I would say that is entirely in your imagination. You've been a member since Sept 2004. Not very new. Why are you feeling so victimised?

My life would be far simpler if they did that. But you have to also apply the rule to yourself somethimes otherwise it just becomes self-righteous preaching.

Right in your eyes, do you mean?

Yes thanks I did consider it, it's a pity that an interesting subject like this always gets pulled into a juvenile argument and insult-trading by the members of the community who are convinced their views are the only right ones to be shared around everyone.

No, you're free to go. Thanks for stopping by! Bring in the next one please, Officer.

Yes I have been a member since 2004, and have known Lfs longer than that. I just recently started to use the forum, because of the new patch (With Bf1) and the many testpatches. So I am rather new here.

Quote from dave4002000 :

900 degrees is cool to screw around with...but i don't race with it like that...i mainly stick to 540 degrees. But for the formula cars, i lock it at 200 degrees(cause i'm lazy..lol) I hope that the G25 will have the 200 degree lockout.

It's a lot of fun drifting with it in 900 degree mode though...i think that's the only thing it's good for...but it is nice to have the option of anything more than 200.

Aha !

Drifting - So it is practically useless, that 900 deg.

Quote from al heeley :

Actually he can compare it with whatever he likes. Whether we agree or not is our own opinion. These arguments are so dull, they just spring up every 3 months, go round in circles for 3 weeks, upset people, cause bitter arguments, then quieten down again, dormant, waiting for the next person to come along with a pointy stick. Thanks for your contributions

But I can`t answer a person, calling me a fanboy !??

Do I not have a rigth to speak freely ??

I think my answer is 100% not OT, and I cannot read all those threads, you mention. I started on the international forum, just a while ago, but all you people can do, is hunt new people down.

Why can`t people just say their meaning, and keep shut if they have nothing to say. I don`t understand this forum, where everybody hunts everybody, just for beeing rigth.

Could it be because it is an interesting subject, that people takes up that discussion, over and over ? - Did you consider that ?

Can you tell me if I have bend any rules ????

Quote from joshdifabio :

I don't like rfactor at all but i hate that argument that LFS fanboys always use.

Fan boys ???

Maby you should rewrite it to fan MEN. This maby is one of the biggest differences between Lfs and all the other "sims" out there.

This sim (Lfs) is been driven by men, all the others are boys "playing" arcade games, with not much reality. I have tried most of the car "sims" out there, and put them away again - INSTANTLY !

The day I saw the Lfs demo, I was convinced on the spot, that this was the Sim, I should buy. Lfs is so much more, than the simgames out there - Totally in it`s own class - Therefore, you can`t compare Lfs with "games".

Quote from 510N3D :

yeah sure that sounds like a good deal Dave, but i dont like the DFP that much compared to the MOMO and thats why i want to see how this G25 is (900° turn degree like the DFP right?) and i really hope i can check that out before i pay for it. Anyway if thats not possible i need a new wheel because my MOMO is going to Nirvana soon. Need to fix the pedals every week with new tape and the wheel itself feels crap as well. (Deadzone because of the age and damage) Thats why i also hope the G25 is more for the Pro-Gamers or lets say, for the people that plays (uses the wheel) more then others. I mean if youre playing games only once in a week or so, this wheel would live for 5 years but the way i and others use their wheels, ~2 years is maximum or normal from what i know. So right after the warranty expired, most of the wheels are ready for the trash.

Pssst !

What will you do with the 900 degrees ? Race with it ??

I see so many love the 900 Degrees on their DFP`s - But do they use it !? And if they use it, what for ?

I liked the guy !

Quote from _rod_ :

LOL thats got be the 1st.. See to all you people who said Ai doesnt pit, you guys just didnt know how to make it pit LOL..
Doesnt the ai auto repair after a crash? Now im wondering if you crash it (ai) near the pits it will pit. Hmm

No !
He wasn`t repaired ?

here is the replay - I was fooling around with the server and the program "Lfs Dedilink"

Its about 6 minutes into the replay. I saw something about the fuel too !?
But he wasn`t repaired totally, after the pitstop ?!

EDIT :

In fact i was parked near the fence, on the beginning of the back straigth. Then I saw the message about the refuelling. I was a little confused here

Last edited by alland44, Sun 3 Sep 2006, 16:01.

Holy cow !

I was setting my server, for the national championship tonigth, and tested with some AI drivers. Suddenly the message shows "AI2 pits"

I hurried saving the replay and watched what happened.

Ai 2 was smashed and was driving along the fence on Fe Green, and drove in the pits. Here he randomly parks for a moment in a yellow box, and the message flashes up

EDIT :
It`s in danish, but it`s true (The pit message)

Quote from Rooble :

Its a bit of a half way house, LFS is no longer a small project that 3 people can handle, its exploded and it requires a bigger team (IMO) and a community driven game as much as its a good thing, it could easly become a negative thing. Dont restrict it, let it grow.

Growth is not the important thing about Lfs. The quality is !
I don`t think the devs will ever let size take over for quality.

Why hurry ? They have allready created the most outstanding simulator, and it gets eveen better

So I feel comfortable with the growing of Lfs, in that speed that makes the devs comfortable.

It feels good, knowing that so much more is comming, in such good quality.

Amen

Quote from 510N3D :

actually, yes, there are only 3 turns thats it. Compared to curcuit tracks, what i actually tried to explain, the oval is not that hard to manage/takes less time to do average or better laptimes. You get used to the track faster and the setup should be reach the limit quicker then on curcuit tracks so theres no need to touch it anymore after a while and therefore you get even used to it as well which means, the opponents are the only factor (mainly) that remains and you have to deal with.



Racing is all about battling your opponents?

Not at all, you are battling yourself, agains the track and car (sometimes, depends on your overall progress), your equipment (pc hardware/software combo), lag and many others things and conditions.

The track becomes secondary, in a tigth battle. Take the uf1000 and 23 racers. Ofcourse you have to take the track in consideration, but you have to race the humans very intensely. If you lead the pack - It`s mostly keeping all the other racers behind you, and especially the nearest one. In this case you drive wide, and not the optimal line.

So racing is all about figthing the other racers - Not the track, because then it is not racing anymore. If you have no opponents, you can`t race !!

Quote from 510N3D :

As someone allready said youre more fighting with the other drivers then with the track. So in the end from my point of view, those who have made less misstakes in the hole race have more the right to win the race then the others.

Do you realize what you said ?

Figthing the other drivers - Would you rather figth the cars, or the tracks ??

Racing is all about battling your opponents - And just that !

I ocassionally race on the oval. I think the oval can be fun, even with uf1000. Tactics are important then.

If people would race some more oval, in the smaller cars, I would too.
No fun in a Bf1, or the other open wheelers.

Quote from Flotch :

yes they are fun (except FE), nice and beautiful!! Amazing job Mr Eric

You can do the nordschleife if you have the time

Yeahhh !
Fe definately stinks