Quote from Blackout :

But are you sure you weren't just improving you driving on the second run and the difference was all down to the cut disabled?

well i think that i raced fairly consistently, as i have been getting the same BL1 times constantly for a few weeks now. I don't think that i could have improved .5 secs in 20 laps. You never know though. There is some support to my findings because in any turbo car, flatshifting will keep the turbo spooled. If you enable throttle cut, the turbo drops quickly, then has to spin up again.

edit: just realized that you mentioned the turbo cars hehe

Quote from JTbo :

I would say that flat shifting vs proper shifting is not very big difference at all and certainly will not stop one to get good times, there are much more of things to consider that are lot more important than such.

I conducted an experiment with the XRT on BL1 and raced 20 laps with it enabled and 20 laps with it disabled. I took the average time for both trials and the difference was give or take, .5 seconds.

Quote from dadge :

i faced a similar problem the other night while practicing for the ATC GP. i was spectating Franky ( i think) and it was lap 3/6 @ blackwood. i saw the guy leaving the pits and franky met him as he exited the pit lane. franky just got out infront of him (inches) and the guy just drove straight into him. then he spammed SRY (i mean if you can't even spell the word, don't use it) i then went on to tell him to check the mini map before entering the track, only to recieve mor e "SRY" spams. i let it go and i joined in on the next race. guess what? same thing happened but this time to me. we were racing away and there was like 3 seconds between 1st-3rd (gag 1st, franky 2nd and me 3rd). it was like grounhog day. the guy just rammed into me @ T1 (from the pits) and again all i got was "SRY" spams. i gave him the same warning and then he telepitted and waited until gag and franky were comming round to complete another lap (by this time i went to spectate to watch the guy). he miss-timed his exit by about 3 seconds. then he left after about 3 corners.
this is the stuff that does my head in big time.
getting back to the topic.
if i am blue flagging a car infront, i just flash the lights a few times to let the driver know that one of us thinks it is a good time to give way. i never spam (sometimes i would say "beep beep m8" ) but i usually crash because i have to type it.
if i am blue flagged i still drive flat out until the leader is within 0.32 (slipstream). if i am at a corner i will not hit the apex but i will take the widest line to give him/her minimum hold up. if it's on a straight i use 90% throttle so that i lose minimum time against any positions behind me. what makes me laugh is the people who say that when they are blue flagged they just drive on and it is the leaders problem to pass. surley this is cowpat? has nobody ever heard of the 3 flag rule? (just because lfs can't flag a driver like this, doesn't mean the flags get ignored)
ignoring the blue flag has to be in the top 5 "don't do's" in lfs

I understand you're point after the guy spammed it continuously, but your comment that people should not say "sorry" if they can't spell it right, i have to disagree with. If you're racing and you honestly are sorry for whatever reason, it is a hassel to "t sorry". Much easier to type "t sry".

i think damage modelling should come first. and fix those damn red and white barriers.

Quote from Blackout :

Uh eh what? Throttle cut on upshift option should be removed because the flatshifting sounds awful? What, so it should be always on? I'm confused. It's the damage what should be improved so flatshifting kills your car eventually.

The throttle cut enable/disable option should be removed. No one flat-shifts in real life as frequently as the "sim" does. Yes, the sound that flat-shifting makes sounds awful, i find that most people will agree on this. Also, you are right about engine damage, maybe if it is implemented, more people will think about whether or not to flat-shift. That might also be the solution. All in all i just think it is unrealistic to be able to do it for that long and that frequently without worrying about any problems or damage.

i think it should be removed completely because it is unrealistic, impractical, and sounds like crap. No one would ever do this on every shift in real life.

Quote from deggis :

Throttle cut and blip should be removed, immediately. It should be a car feature and not a driving aid (makes the "No arcade modes, no steering aids - YOU have to do the driving" slogan kinda funny). Not only it's unrealistic but the sound that comes from flat shifting destroys ears.

agree wholeheartedly

Completed the test,

Conclusions: (Applying to XRT on BL1 only) Lap times are at least .5 seconds faster, (as someone previously stated) with throttle cut disabled. Meaning you can't have a good sound without jeopardizing lap times :/

not sure if this is the right forum but i found this neat little video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ;mode=related&search=

Quote from Goop :

By having throttle-cut set to off, you just do your own lifts. The less aids you have 'on', ultimately, the more control you have - much like doing your own 'blips' can control the car's attitude under brakes.

I think turbo cars benefit the most [from flat-shifting]; the turbo stays spooled up and on-boost. I haven't had it on since S1, and back then, there was a substantial differrence I suggest you do some tests

i am currently half way through a test. I raced about 20 laps on bl1 with the xrt and throttle cut enabled. I took this average time and now, am going to repeat the process with throttle cut disabled

Yes i used the search button and found a thread about this but it seemed to refer more to real life situations than what i want to know.

Will throttle cut on upshifts slow you do at all in the sim? I mean, will it stop you from getting 1.24s on bl1. I love the sound that is a result of the throttle cut but do not want to jeopardize lap times.

i don't know if its worth it to post here anymore but i would really like to see at least one muscle car. ford mustang, ac cobra etc.

Quote from 96 GTS :

LOL, that's great!! The dog is cute

but not the kid? haha

really nice

my opinion is shut up please

edit: now how's THAT for a 100th post! hahaa

i'm surprised that this thread hasn't been locked or deleted yet.

Quote from harjun :

Hi guys...instead of posting all your insults in my other thread, for my team recruiting, you can post it HERE! Now how cool is that. Just please keep most of the swear words out, and have fun instulting Me!
Thanks guys.

wow

Quote from CSU1 :

it's abit like thinking twice befoer you say something

and people still don't think in real life so what makes you think they are going to search the forum? lol

Quote from sgt.flippy :

New technology from Audi: no-wheel drive.

hilarious, laughing out loud.

i'll throw in a similar one.

"Look ma, no wheels!"

Quote from h3adbang3r :

Just today I had my CRAZIEST finish ever, coming out of T3 on the last lap, Rich Lgg taps me sending me into the wall, my car bounces off and hits him, spinning, im still going, but ~70 km/h slower than the cars behind me. Another car hits me from behind, spinning both of us, and even more cars come in and get collected in the mess. I get hit again and it sends me across the finish line, and about 60 feet behind me, another car gets hit even harder and almost steals away 2nd place from me.

wrong replay there huh?

Quote from deggis :

Queer Eye for the Formula Guy

i'm not the poster of the picture but this is the winner

in real life (when you are driving on the highway for a long time and then get off at an exit and start to drive at 30-40 mph again) it is called velocitized. It might affect the way you drive slower cars but with me, its just the fact that i don't feel like i'm going fast at all.

Quote from mcintyrej :

You do know thats a girls fleece don't you?

lol thats EXACTLY what i was going to write.

Guy on right "I think i see T1 up ahead!! We're almost there!"

it would most likely suck