- I like that the forum is fast
- Many helpful and intelligent people to argue with
- Funny threads

HAHA disregard that, I am gay!

Quote from Sponge :

It's really great news! I didn't notice until the day before yesterday

Can't wait for it to be released


+1
If all off-topic posts could be removed it would be a nice thread again

oh btw.. how will the update effect the load on the computer? I'm glad I can run LFS as it is now

I've already asked that on one of the earlier pages and was told that the CPU load increase would be "mint", whatever that means.

I have a question: Will there be any impact on the FPS and overall performance?

Quote from AlexC :

Nothing would stop them, and they could edit it all they wanted. Measures can/could be put in place to allow only clients which meet certain requirements to connect to the master servers, which would stop people making their own version with modified content and 'cheat' online. No sales would drop, since a (race) license would still be required to play on the master servers/network.

Thanks for explaining but I still don't understand, what prevents someone from creating a different master server? There are cracked servers for Counter Strike, craked servers for Battlefield and cracked servers for XY other games and those games aren't even open-source.

If I had the coding skill and LFS source-code, why shouldn't I create a rip-off game with my own master server that wouldn't require any licences, it would just maintain a lobby for races to meet and start races (simply a server browser). The game server is in the game already so the source-code for that would be accessible.

Remember what happened with the Half-life 2 leaked code? It wasn't even a finished version and some russian guys managed to make it into a playable game (although I haven't tried myself so don't quote me on the playability aspect).

Quote from AlexC :

1) What makes you think they wouldn't?
2) Sure, you can edit the source *you* have, but does that mean you've edited the version that they will distributed? No, since you wouldn't have access to that version they will release, since you just edited your local copy and never sent the patches upstream for them to consider to include. Therefore, you couldn't edit tamper with the code.

1) In the spirit of answering each other's question with another question, let me ask you this: Why are there so many opern-source Linux distributions? And another question: If Microsoft released the Windows 7 source-code, do you think everyone would still rather pay a lot for the "oroginal" if they could have the same (or maybe even improved) version of the OS? I know it's not LFS but the principle remains the same.

2) I think that you are missing my point so let me explain. What I meant previously was that if the devs released the source-code, what stops somebody else from plagiarizing (is that the correct word?) it and creating a clone, that would be free for all? The LFS license sales will probably drop.

Quote from AlexC :

Indeed they could, though what would be the appeal? How many servers would they have running in their own network compared to the current official ones? Users would get a far better experience running on the official ones, than third party - which would be the same incentive that people get to buy a (race) license currently

Edit:


People wouldn't be able to jump in and change the code without permission. In fact, they would never get their hands on the RCS/DVS system that is currently being used. Patches could be sent, but the developers can freely choose to ignore/decline/accept them. No one can tamper with the code.

1) What makes you think that? I think that you are being a little naive here.
2) Give me the LFS source-code and I'll show you how I can tamper with the code...and I am no David Copperfield either.

This idea might work in Utopia. What you are saying is: "Why do you use security doors on your houses when you can just have curtains? It would make your life easier. It's not like if somebody came for a visit when you're on vacation."

Make LFS open-source and in one week you will have a s..tload of LFS clones for free download.

might be what you are looking for

Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Re-Animator (only the first half)
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (sort of zombie movie)
...and Braindead of course

I am looking to become a Jeremy Clarkson, now that's my kind of testing

What do you intend to broadcast? The three songs about LFS that exist in an infinite loop?

Who will be providing the speech and about what?

Do you have the consent of LFS devs? Because otherwise you can't call it official.

What address do you have for the stream? If it is some freehosting provider with complicated URL, then good luck with looking serious.

Answer these questions and then I'll tell you if you have my support or not.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

Well not really, because it is numeric as well, we have 0.5z at the moment, so the most obvious next one will be 0.6a, as the viewer name suggests.

What about 0.51A?

Both comps must be on the same workgroup. Rightclick on My computer > Properties > Computer name and there click on a button Change (the only button there iirc). I'm using slovak XP so I'm not sure about the translation but you should be able to find it.

Browse the LAN through My network places > Network Computers (or something like that)

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

http://www.it-rx.com/insults/swearing/

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That's a good one. I checked the slovak part and found some swears that I have never heard of and some of them haven't been used for at least 500 years

Quote from amp88 :

Can't see this lasting long.

I did my very best to write in a polite manner
And I'm not foulmouthing anyone. I was just interested in other languages. There are profanities in Oxford dictionary too.

Quote from BlueFlame :

He did it on purpose. Lack of irony understanding tbh.

I did what on purpose?

Post your favorite profanities from your language translated literally (word by word) in English.

Slovak is my language and some of the most widely used are:

Go to ass or go to c..t (means f..k off)
It's in the ass/c..t (means it's f..ked up)
It's for sh.t (means it's no good)
You d..k/c..t (means basically the same in English)

Then there are many combinations since Slovak uses various prefixes and postfixes. Cursing in Slovak can sometimes be quite creative

Could of, should of, would of...even must of! Give me a brake

Quote from Kristi :

If we are in the hang of S3, what you guys think of the price.. If it will cost 36 pounds(its not that much actually) even less people will buy LFS. Even in the present , not so much people spend 24 pounds for a great simulator, what do you except when it will cost 36 ?

Let me speculate...

If S3 comes out and costs 36 pounds (or 12 from S2), then I suspect that most of today's S2 owners (me included) will upgrade to S3. Because of this, the current S2 will be as much populated as S1. As a result of this, not that many newcomers will be willing to pay the full S3 price and neither will they want to pay for S1 or S2 where nothing will happen. The number of any LFS licences sold will not grow as fast as it does now.

/speculation

Quote from sandrian :

Hello, community.
First of all, sorry for my english.
I'm quite new in lfs forums, but believe me, not the noob in racing sim LFS. There are few things I want to say, and I think I am not the only one. So here is the deal. I'm planing to buy LFS in two, maybe three days. I'll buy it, because I know / play / drive this game for... four years now I think, and I really love it. What about people, who heard of LFS, and want's to know more? Yeah yeah, there is official site for it, www . lfs . net, but when you load up the page, what do you see? Page updated Mon, Dec 15th, 2008 17:30. SWEET. What would new player / potential buyer would think? Game is dead. That's what living creature would think. Annoying thing is, that it really looks dead.
It's a serious SIM, so why to vaste it looks, respect ?
I know, maybe developers are busy and so on so on, but when I read few topics in this forum, I saw that most of players / S2 owners are very dissapointed about last 8 (?) months of LFS improvement? I see most of you are wating for VW badly, physics update and other stuff.. But actually I don't (because I don't have the licence YET ), but when I will have it, I would like to know the progress of the game, I really would, and I don't think I',m alone in this possition. So.. Why don't make somekind of progress bar, for users to know when to expect something new?
If this topic will be deleted, I believe that means, that developers afraid of something.

Love you all, Jerek.

What's the logic behind that statement?

Anyway, you haven't said anything new.

Does the braking distance include driver's reaction time?

You all fail so much at this
I pity the poor misunderstood OP whom you all made look like a dumbass

The next poster is supposed to create a sentence from these 4 letters:
F A I L

Quote from sinbad :

In the case of the 7 type car vs. 911 type car then it's the only way to do it.

(Captain Obvious Say): A 7 is fast because of low power and low weight, a 911 is fast because despite its weight it has (relatively) a lot of power.

For even laptimes on every circuit you need cars with very close power to weight ratios, but of course even that is not a guarantee as the 911 and the 7 could both have identical power to weight ratios.

So reduce the weight of the 911 to help it on the tight twisty circuits, and you've got to reduce the power output too or else it becomes even more of a straight line missile on fast circuits with long straights.

Increase the power of the 7 to help it on fast circuits with long straights and you need to increase its weight too or else it's faster by an even larger margin on the tight and twisty circuits.

Or perhaps you mess with tyre sizes in the hope that slowing the 7 through the corners will help keep the 911 in touch on the twisties, but then oh, now it's even slower on the fast circuits, so it needs more power, and now it cooks its tyres whilst the heavy 911 works its fat rubber gently..... It goes on.

So I guess "crippling" a car is a good term in that situation, in one way or another. And it applies to varying, usually lesser extents to most other class balancing situations imo, but especially if engine size and weight differ significantly from car to car. You can balance anything if you're prepared to mess with everything, and imo that's A: not worth it, and B: not going to improve anything.

I think that balancing the cars so that they behave the same way and achieve similar lap times on every LFS track is pointless and also impossible. If you'd try it, you'd end up with a bunch of identical cars. There should be cars (in one class) that are somewhat specific and each has it's "favorite" environment. This could be quite interesting in leagues and tournaments where tracks change, but where you have to stick to one car.

In one-off pickup races, everyone would probably pick the same car (which is obviously the fastest for the current track). Whether this is good or bad is very subjective and I don't want to get involved in this debate, I don't have a clear opinion about this anyway.

I have a short thread somewhere where I was looking for a combination of two different cars with similar laptimes, to induce many overtaking situations in one lap (FZ5 vs. restricted FBM on Aston Historic Rev). I found a good combination, but on a different track it didn't work and I had to play with the restrictions again. My conclusion? You cannot have many different cars that are mutually competitive on different tracks.

To sum it up, I have no idea why I am writing this, probably just too much time on my hands today Good thread anyway

Is this some kind of a e-penis competition?

I would like to have your problems.