Quote from Madman_CZ :

Really? has any one got some good videos of damage after patch and gameplay?

Well the ai races i guess are a big part of the game, shame that they have not sorted that out properly.

Pete

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1525000#post1525000


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Anyway I figured out a way to get infinite paint chips

If you have 2 PS3 accounts, have GT5 for each one, and have the other account as a friend for each.
Then just gift a car from one to the other. You'll receive the car in the other account through the machine delivery button.
You get the car and 1 paint chip. Now gift the car back to the original account, plus the paint chip.

You will receive back the car in the original account, recieve the paint chip sent, and get another paint chip when you recieve the car via machine delivery!

Can only do this once a day though

Last edited by CoolColJ, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 18:15.

Quote from JJ72 :

$15,000 is hardly big money, much rather do the daytona in A-spec. For B-spec lvl grinding the Expert European championship can yield 10K lvl point every 20 or so minutes with any prototype. and because 2 driver can enter, it upgrades two driver at the same.

My B-Spec level isn't high enough yet. Plus my B-Spec cash cow is when you have GT5 running in the background while you browse the web or do something else

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Anyway GT5 feels like a different game with a wheel vs the control pad. Strange, but a lot of stuff you just can't sense with a pad.
Like the floating feeling you get on the wheel, going light, when you go over jumps. I only noticed that yesterday, you discover these little details that might not be so obvious in one car, but will be another car.
So it's a big step up for a GT game, in this area

Quote from danowat :

Odd, so was I, had just updated to the latest patch and system update.

Weird, maybe the servers still need to be updated or something

I found an easy cash cow with B-Spec for now, until I get my level higher
The Supercar race on Daytona in the Professional tier
Bring a Stealth Mazda 787B or equalient, and just let the AI run around for 6 laps on his own, easy $15,000 credits, rinse and repeat. Cash, experience, and leveling all in one

Quote from danowat :

Mech damage for online only?, why?, at least give us the OPTION to enable it for offline play too.

@CoolColJ, sent you a "silver", also tried to join your lounge, but it said wrong version

@Gabkicks, also tried to join your lounge this morning, but it was full

Thanks
Yeah I'm on v3.55 PS3 firmware and V1.03 GT5

Someone mentioned gaps in the skid marks indicating that the tires are losing and regaining traction with the road, in my video.
I didn't notice that until he pointed it out

My Clio Sport V6 not only looks messed up but feels and sounds it too.
If you go into the pits, the cosmetic damage stays but the mechanical gets repaired I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaBZaFp0RQQ

I didn't try it with my wheel so don't know if the FFB is changed as well, which I suspect it might with the car vibrating and stuff

Quote from sinbad :

Yeah, I'm not saying it's that bad and of course body movement is present, but anyway to illustrate the MX5 comparison I dug out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... sE44M&feature=related (go to about 2:10).

yeah I noted a while back the real Mclaren F1 rolls more than one in GT5, from official videos I've seen. I don't have it ingame yet
F1 Time attack at Tsukuba. Anyone have it ingame? Do a comparison?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcRY15toko0


GT Academy rego has started, plus damage patch today
http://blog.us.playstation.com ... egistration-starts-today/

Last edited by CoolColJ, Mon 6 Dec 2010, 22:54.

Man I'm missing my Speedline wheels from GT4.

I know the wheel selection varies from car to car, some of my cars have almost double the number of rim choices, but most of them are these chromey, shiny and metallic wheels.

Rally cars, hot hatches and race cars just look odd with these rims!
There doesn't appear to be any plain 5, 6 and 8 spoke Speedline style rims for that tougher motorsport look. Ala the Prodrive 555 Subara WRC days

Quote from sinbad :

Do you really think that's true?

I mean, let's just assume that the odd handling cars simply are a result of improper data input, specifications and stats which aren't 100% accurate. Fair enough, but it never looks 100% convincing.

It's good enough to be fun and the replays look decent, but cars don't quite pitch and roll enough. Watch some Best Motoring where they're driving MX5/Miata/EunosRoadsters and then watch the same in GT5 - there's a clear difference, it's the same across them all, though. Cars with stock suspension don't pitch on upshifts enough, or on braking and body roll isn't there to the correct extent imo. Some of these standard and old cars should be on their door-handles round corners, and quick changes of direction should result in an obvious violent weight transfer, but you don't quite get that. Cars seem too light, or too stiffly sprung, across the board. Even the kubelwagen and vw van corner impossibly flat.

It's fun, but let's not kid ourselves

Yeah sometimes it feels that way

I thought the 370z in the Time trial did pitch quite a bit in the cockpit view, both in braking and accelerating, you could feel the nose rise
When I watch the AI cars in the classic races, while driving, they do seem to pitch and roll around a lot. More so than the newer cars

And you can see this red AI Integra type R braking in my video, it does pitch forward quite a bit at 0:29. Front suspension compressing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yQfJqFSjvU

Plus that freeze frame comparison I made with a Best Motoring video of the 300zx. Maybe it's the camera angles or something else that doesn't make it seem so


from this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nR8zsr2pU4

Last edited by CoolColJ, Mon 6 Dec 2010, 22:08.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Oh my god, this game keeps on reminding me why i'm avoiding it's 'career' mode.. That night race with Murcielago in Grand Tour Special event.. jeeez, i had to restart it couple of times because i couldn't freakin see where i was going.. and the handling, oh my god the handling.. finally i couldn't be bothered to do it again and went with the bronze.

Turn the driving line on and max out the EV
Yeah night is way too dark. Night on the Ring is scary!

Quote from Boris Lozac :

So, what cars do you people found the best in the game, meaning that it feels like they haven't rushed them physics wise... I'm interested in Premium cars only.

The FFB on the Renault Clio Sport V6 feels good. With the aero add ons and sports suspension. It seems the FFB varies from car to car, but on this one it chatters a bit like in iRacing. Especially on the Mount Aso track generator theme. Maybe the of suspension settings is not damping the springs enough or something, but you can see, hear and feel the car vibrate on some fo the runs and elevation changes.
The wheel goes light when you understeer and when you go airbourne.
I have driven this car in Prologue and it feels totally different, especially in how the oversteer feels, and there is more grip now on Hard Sports tyres

BTW they don't model the physics to each car individually. They just enter the stats of the car into the physics engine, and it takes care of the rest. So it isn't scripted like in some games/mods
In the Top gear magazine article Kaz mentioned this. He said they found that if the stats are entered correctly the cars behave like they do in the real world

I think all the cars all handle and feel different in the game, not all cars in real life feel good to drive.

Last edited by CoolColJ, Mon 6 Dec 2010, 21:38.

Quote from ACCAkut :

yeah, thats what I meant. I have like 100GB music on a small server, wouldn't want to copy that to the PS3. And most of it is in mp4 or flac, and afaik the PS3 (or GT5) can't open those.

Can GT5 acces that stream?

Don't think GT5, can only music on your HD, and only for race music.

Last edited by CoolColJ, Mon 6 Dec 2010, 12:29.

I just read that the LFA comes in matt black from the dealer, doh, didn't notice that while skimming the colours....
I also got some pearl 2 tone weird paint from the FT-86 I won

nice matt green Shelby Cobra
http://advancedoption.co.nz/?p=232

and R8

I got the highroller trophy when I picked up my LFA in gold-brown colour. Now I'm wonder if I should paint it Le Mans Blue from my 370Z or Matt Black with gold rims - hmmm decisions

Sounds like an angel stock, sounds different with sports exhaust, more throaty, wonder what it sounds like with a race exhaust...

Nice guide to help setup/tune a car in GT5, more practical and less technical

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/showfile.php?file_id=6143

Quote from Migz :

Im liking B-Spec event, its perfect for when i cant quite be arsed to play but want to hear all these gorgeuos car sounds.

But my driver has learnt now how to win on his own. He's only level 4 but i can happily start a race and leave him at it, wins everytime.

Although in my race just before i was watching him and noticed he gave it too much power on one corner and nearly lost it, managing to just drift the whole corner haha. From then onwards he seems to be playing with the car and is putting slightly too much power down at every corner just to slide the back out for a split second.
I wish there was a "STOP WHAT THE **** YOUR DOING AND JUST RACE" command.

There are hidden parameters with B-Spec drivers. Not all are equal it seems. A bit like in GT4, the more then drive a certain car, and drivetrain layout, plus power class the better they get at using that car. And they also learn the tracks the more the drive on it. If you observe their lap times you'll see changes and their lines get better

Also according to the ingame manual, B-Spec drivers with lots of miles will eventually age and get worse over time.

Maybe specialising certain drivers, once you get more than 2 might be a good idea

A nice guide on B-Spec
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137714

Last edited by CoolColJ, Mon 6 Dec 2010, 02:27.

I have 1 matt black paint item, but if I use it, it's gone for good

Stick your PS3 on your PC monitor and use your wheel that way

The speed sensitive steering lock limits with the controller (which is why it feels understeery) plus input smoothing is the problem.
Back in the Time Trial with the 1:1 controller settings, which made it feel twitchy, allowed you to drive well on the ovals, not so anymore

Quote from ACCAkut :

I knew it was fake when he said that both car sounds and AI were taken from Gt4 "a little tweaked". One thing I read and hear from GT5 owners a lot is how good the car sounds got even from the standard cars. And 1000 premiums , .... how would you even fit those on a single Blue ray?

A question for PS3 owners, can you select a network storage space from it? I have a little server just for my music, wouldn't want to copy that to the PS3. (I plan on buying one in February, after my exams, when the prices drop :schwitz

You can stream music to the PS3, if that's what your asking?

Windows media player can do it from Windows to the PS3. You just browse you music library via remote and stream it

Quote from GFresh :

Can't you just backup the save files to a USB stick? thats what i do. Just re download any DLC...

EDIT: Oh, and my PS3 has been hammered since the day i bought it 3 years ago (or whatever it was...)

You can for most games but not for GT5, until the next patch which is rumoured to remove the copy protection. Just remeber all your replays, settings and photo mode pics are stored in the main game files, not in your saves! So You can't really back it all up. Off course you can export your photos out, as well as your replays, but it's hassle if you ahve tons of em


Different race, and damage appears to be dynamic
Pics taken at different stages of the race, and after varied amounts of impacts

Last edited by CoolColJ, Sun 5 Dec 2010, 11:40.

I got the "Take your Honda Home" trophy when I smashed up the AI honda with my Evo 6 TM, didn't realise there was a trophy for that until the message popped when I was watching the replay

I'm at level 14, so there is more damage now, but it doesn't progress much further than this.

Last edited by CoolColJ, Sun 5 Dec 2010, 11:19.

I finally got a Holden Monaro, it sounds Ok stock, but I love the way it sounds with a sports exhaust - sounds kinda like a V8 Supercar :cool:
Not keen on the Semi-racing or Race systems though. Not bad for a non-premium car.
Donuts from a stationary start feel and look right to me. Holden Monaro (standard car), FR, does it no problems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZGrI4q_J0

The RX-7 and 350Z, tuned I suspect don't sound too bad either. You can tell which is which by their drive by sounds



The more I play it, the more it feels like physics from the Time Trial mixed together with Enthusia. The coder for the Enthusia physics engine now works for PD, so it's not a big surprise I guess

Front wheel drive cars still aren't modelled that well as far as torque steer and some types of oversteer effects though.

Also the FFB on oversteer still doesn't seem to have the auto-countersteer effect, or maybe it's just too weak, and the wheel spin coming out of turns, when you let go of the wheel, that Enthusia had.
The wheel does go light when you understeer though or when you lock the brakes on turn in.

I did some drifting online for kicks, and after 2 laps of it on Eiger short, the tyre wear meter was only at 75% level, but the grip was just about shot!

Quote from jibber :

The lobby was full after some time. We'll find a different way with private lobbies/friend list (there should be a password option, would make it a lot easier). About half of the people in the lobby were just random people.

Also, we should probably plan things a little better regarding car restrictions. I'm looking at you mason, a race modified elise is not exactly a stock car... it was lots of fun tho!

All in all i'm very pleased with the GT5 online experience. I got disconnected a few times, but that was because of my bad connection i guess. I'm surprised how good online racing can be with GT5, there's a lot of potential. Physics and netcode allow for very close and precise driving/racing.

It was great fun and i think everybody who joined from here was driving very clean. In every race there was at least one other dude i hade a close battle with. It's been a while since i've had this much fun with a racing sim.

Let's do this again from time to time!



What exactly do you not understand about the word "stock"?

The only way to do a private run is someone hosts a race in their lounge.
If that person is on your PSn friends list, you just click on community and scroll to the person hosting it, next to his profile icon will be a Yellow icon, click on it and you will head to his Lounge/race.

If the person is not on your friends list, but you have someone else on your list in his lounge, they will also have that yellow icon, just click on it, and you will go there

Eventually you will be able to use custom tracks here as well, but it's no enabled right now.
How smooth the cars look online depends on the Race Quality setting the hoster is using. The other display next to host name is the latency I think.

Practise runs before the race appears to work as qualify as timing information is shown when you click the Timing button as a spectator.
You can also save online race replays, it's somewhere in lobby area when the race finishes. Doesn't record practise runs though

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If anyone hasn't seen it, here is that demo of a 24 Hour Le Mans race in GT5 with dynamic time of day and lighting. It's so smooth and gradual you don't even notice the transitions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzWPNshceyY

Last edited by CoolColJ, Sat 4 Dec 2010, 02:26.

I don't have any street cars that can do near 500bhp, although my 370z might with a turbo, or my Chromeline M3
M3 has about 430hp, but weighs 1600+kg

What about minimum weight?

I wish they had the PP system and quicktune from Prologue for online, makes it so much easier to dial in any car to specific regulations

Quote from jibber :

The challenge is in the license tests and special events (and since GT5P also online). Newsflash: GT's AI was never a challenge.

Don't know why they dropped the adjustable AI levels they had in Prologue. Or the Performance points system to be honest. Capping the GT Life events with PP would have made the game much more challanging.

Then again the AI level in Prologue was an update addon

Quote from Hotdogxx60 :

Here it is

Nice looks like it
They should have made the race mod number decal available for the other cars as well, that way you can have different numbers on the cars without having a race mod

Quote from speed1230 :

WRC style paddle shift? :grumpy:
Personally I prefer the traditional upshift and downshift paddle

It has 2 paddles