720p looks fine, that's what I use, and you get more AA and should get better framerates
Better quality footage from the Qore episode 29
Some hints of what cars will be GT5 with the photo sessions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXoumUx2o8
Some hints of what cars will be GT5 with the photo sessions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXoumUx2o8
Yeah I played it a long time ago like that before I got my DFGT, and using the same Logitech control pad, and I'd say it feels different. It definitely is more like Netkar Pro. LFS feels more rubbery and looser.
GT5 has more of that tighter, more solid Netkar Pro feel, at least for the cars in the demo.
hard to judge as I said with a control pad, but it feels better than Prologue with pad, and the Time Trial, better than a modded PC NFS Shift as well
I've played Netkar Pro demo on a pad, using the dual analog sticks on a Logitech controller, and it probably feels like that, off course not with the same kind of car.
Let me double check first though
Pedals will only work if you can connect them into a DFGT, G25, and G27 etc
The ECCI and other expensive sim pedals work when they connect to the above wheels, since I guess they just emulate the Logitech connection
went back for another go on the Demo this morning.
I poked around the menus a bit more, and everything is locked apart from a cut down arcade mode. This demo is different from the others on the net.
There is no Indy Speedway in it - only Rome, Madrid, Tokyo, Nurburgring Nordschleife, and the Toscana rally track
There is the nice smoke, grass/dirt debris, but no skid marks. Also some damage, the rear bumper of the Ferrari 458 was hanging loose after a few "gentle" taps. I didn't try to ram the car to see if there was more than that though
All the races I did today were in Intermediate mode, with Pro physics. Ai is slower in this mode. I could be wrong, but Pro physics in Intermediate feels different to Pro physics in Pro mode... I wasn't getting the sudden snap power steer I was yesterday in pro mode.
Mostly S3 tyres today with or without traction control at 1 (out of 10)
It felt even more solid and connected to road than yesterday.
The first race I did was with whatever the demonstrator was using, Enzo, auto, traction control etc, on the Ring, and the Enzo is a handful even then. The rear end of this car is quite loose whenever you brake or coast into a turn, it wants to swap ends. And I spun in a blink of an eye when I rode the curbs with power on.
The grass is pretty slippery on the ring.
458 on Rome. Noticed the rear bumper hanging loose as I mentioned above.
Seemed pretty stable compared to the SLS and Enzo. I didn't have too many power oversteer moments. SLS on the same track = drift machine in comparison
SLS on the ring. Much easier to drive than the Enzo here. But once you get on the grass, you'll be sliding for a good while. Probably a tad too slippery.
Did 1 race in the Citroen Rally car on that Toscana gravel track, and it felt good! It's not as slippery like everyone says, it actually "felt" like gravel with a control pad. There was a definite gravel "texture" to it, but if you went onto the dirt sections on the side then it become more slippery. I pretty much feathered the throttle between 2nd and 3rd most of the time and it felt more or less like Richards Burns rally or something.
I guess if you try to drive like on a tarmac road, then it might be slippery...
When it gets dark it's really hard to see though
The Rally car sounded pretty good, as a turbo'ed inline 4 would sound, kinda boomy type note. The other street cars thin out a lot in cockpit view like in those Epsilon vids.
Just got back from Westfields, Chatswoood.
It took forever to find, but it's on level 4 next to the info desk. I was expecting a massive display, but it's only a small TV booth unit with a 46 inch TV + Blu Ray player, and a PS3 hooked up to another TV with DS3 running GT5 in 3D
Anyway - as far as 3D goes, good for some TV/Film, crappy for games. So not worth getting a 3D TV for it IMO.
Some of the Blue Ray footage look great, but it feels like a those pop up books, you can see and feel the depth between objects, but the objects still look flat, like cardboard cutouts. Kinda like parallax scrolling.
The Blu Ray footage of Motor Storm had a good feel of depth, but was pretty flickery.
GT5 in 3D looks quite blurry, and the 3D effect is non-existent to me compared to Motor storm and the other Blu Ray footage....
But it definitely runs at 60fps
Now onto GT5 game play/physics -
I can't get a good feel with the DS3, feels empty, it doesn't even vibrate, will have to wait till I try it with a DFGT wheel, but it's way different to Prologue, and different again to the Time Trial with a pad.
It feels more connected to the road than in Prologue, where you felt more like on skates. While it doesn't feel as twitchy as the Time Trial.
In the Time Trial, you had to use super smooth steering and throttle on the pad, but here it feels more smoothed out and easier to handle. I don't think it does 1:1 steering to wheel movement anymore like it was in the Time Trial. There is probbaly some speed sensitive steering limiting now.
The tyre model is different too, it's much more progressive, but can still snap if your not careful or over correct
I had 3 goes, all in Pro mode, Pro Physics, no traction control, everything off etc. TV was pretty loud so I could hear the sounds clearly.
1) Motul Autech GT-R on the Tokyo track, R1 tyres. Had a pretty big over steer moment on turn 1, but after that I managed to get around the track ok. It felt pretty planted with all the down force and grip. AI blew me away off course
2) Time Trial - Nascar on the Madrid track with R1. This thing is hard to control, It doesn't like to turn, and the smallest wiff of the throttle smokes up the rear tyres! Pretty loud transmission whine, so this is probably the E3 build
The low revs off idle on this is really loud and rumbley. It takes ages for the car to get moving (or stop) if you lose control and have to start up again from a dead stop
3) AMG SLS on Rome - with Traction control on 1, on S3 tyres. It's quite progressive on these tyres. You can drift it quite predictably with practise.
Graphics wise, in 3D it looks like Prologue I guess. When I switched to outside view and slide sideways the smoke looked excellent, really dense.
Pro physics is no fun on a pad, relatively speaking but easier to handle than in the Time Trial with a pad. I don't think you'd be competitive with a pad in pro physics against a wheel user anymore.
It took forever to find, but it's on level 4 next to the info desk. I was expecting a massive display, but it's only a small TV booth unit with a 46 inch TV + Blu Ray player, and a PS3 hooked up to another TV with DS3 running GT5 in 3D
Anyway - as far as 3D goes, good for some TV/Film, crappy for games. So not worth getting a 3D TV for it IMO.
Some of the Blue Ray footage look great, but it feels like a those pop up books, you can see and feel the depth between objects, but the objects still look flat, like cardboard cutouts. Kinda like parallax scrolling.
The Blu Ray footage of Motor Storm had a good feel of depth, but was pretty flickery.
GT5 in 3D looks quite blurry, and the 3D effect is non-existent to me compared to Motor storm and the other Blu Ray footage....
But it definitely runs at 60fps
Now onto GT5 game play/physics -
I can't get a good feel with the DS3, feels empty, it doesn't even vibrate, will have to wait till I try it with a DFGT wheel, but it's way different to Prologue, and different again to the Time Trial with a pad.
It feels more connected to the road than in Prologue, where you felt more like on skates. While it doesn't feel as twitchy as the Time Trial.
In the Time Trial, you had to use super smooth steering and throttle on the pad, but here it feels more smoothed out and easier to handle. I don't think it does 1:1 steering to wheel movement anymore like it was in the Time Trial. There is probbaly some speed sensitive steering limiting now.
The tyre model is different too, it's much more progressive, but can still snap if your not careful or over correct
I had 3 goes, all in Pro mode, Pro Physics, no traction control, everything off etc. TV was pretty loud so I could hear the sounds clearly.
1) Motul Autech GT-R on the Tokyo track, R1 tyres. Had a pretty big over steer moment on turn 1, but after that I managed to get around the track ok. It felt pretty planted with all the down force and grip. AI blew me away off course
2) Time Trial - Nascar on the Madrid track with R1. This thing is hard to control, It doesn't like to turn, and the smallest wiff of the throttle smokes up the rear tyres! Pretty loud transmission whine, so this is probably the E3 build
The low revs off idle on this is really loud and rumbley. It takes ages for the car to get moving (or stop) if you lose control and have to start up again from a dead stop
3) AMG SLS on Rome - with Traction control on 1, on S3 tyres. It's quite progressive on these tyres. You can drift it quite predictably with practise.
Graphics wise, in 3D it looks like Prologue I guess. When I switched to outside view and slide sideways the smoke looked excellent, really dense.
Pro physics is no fun on a pad, relatively speaking but easier to handle than in the Time Trial with a pad. I don't think you'd be competitive with a pad in pro physics against a wheel user anymore.
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I'm gonna wait till I get the game into my PS3 before I judge the sound. Kaz says the final version of the audio will only be heard in the retail game. There are a lot of place holder sounds in the demos.
Plus this clip has audio taken from the TV headphone out into the camera mic input
Skid sounds are different from the ones in Prologue, and the Time Trial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-fffZ53kn8
Qore mag episode 29
Here's the GT5 part. Starts at 2:55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm89pric1KY
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Well the Sony 3D Experience tour hits my local Westfields today. So I might go in this morning to check it out. This will probably be my only chance to sample GT5 in 3D
http://www.sony.com.au/microsite/3dwestfield/3Droad.htm
I also saw a Sony 3D Experience ad on TV yesterday, showed a little bit of GT5 footage in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-fffZ53kn8
Qore mag episode 29
Here's the GT5 part. Starts at 2:55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm89pric1KY
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Well the Sony 3D Experience tour hits my local Westfields today. So I might go in this morning to check it out. This will probably be my only chance to sample GT5 in 3D
http://www.sony.com.au/microsite/3dwestfield/3Droad.htm
I also saw a Sony 3D Experience ad on TV yesterday, showed a little bit of GT5 footage in it
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Perhaps the girl wasn't exactly smooth with her steering inputs.
We've seen the same car go around that small track in Senna at Gamescom, in circles and it didn't flip
There were a few cars back in GT1/2 that could end up on 2 wheels quite easily when tuned up, but the game didn't allow them to flip over. Some of those small Kei cars from memory.
We've seen the same car go around that small track in Senna at Gamescom, in circles and it didn't flip
There were a few cars back in GT1/2 that could end up on 2 wheels quite easily when tuned up, but the game didn't allow them to flip over. Some of those small Kei cars from memory.
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So you don't even believe the Top Gear video? That's about as real as you can get
That's in the wet as well, where it shouldn't be grippy enough to flip on a flat surface the Top Gear track has, but the car did.
The GT5 car may well be using race tyres/slicks which would make it even more able to flip the car.
Oh well
It shows a 1994 spec Fiat, so more modern than the old one in the GT5 vid, driving on the Top Gear track in the wet with multi-cam views, just a light sprinkle, but wet track. Off a standing start, turns into first left, at what appears to be quite modest speed, maybe not even 80kph and flips right over.
The driver was even leaning heavily into the turn.
For that type and brand of car yes - tall, narrow wheel base etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixt-sNEH5mw
try it again, I posted the wrong video at first, edited it now
cute girls, roll overs and GT5 - what's not to like? the driving...
Fiat rolled over twice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW_EcybsZcs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PDA0sHJxKk
Fiat rolled over twice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW_EcybsZcs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PDA0sHJxKk
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Spotted these new replay camera angles from a Spaziogames video - the Nurburgring GP track has so much depth!
Plus the new wind swept dust effects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Av92T7MKKk
Plus the new wind swept dust effects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Av92T7MKKk
There is a system information thing in the XMB menus
Little kid doing a Time Attack against the Datalogger ghost, with a Lexus IS-F on the "new" tweaked version pf Fuji Speedway and doing rather well!!!
You can just barely make out the new improved V8 sound of the IS-F
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEO68aHyQlQ
You can just barely make out the new improved V8 sound of the IS-F
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEO68aHyQlQ
Sure, but I was at the speed limit, and the AI cars drove through me like I wasn't there
Is there one game that does not look floaty floaty when there are launches and flips?
I haven't seen one yet - iRacing, RFactor, LFS, GTR series, Forza etc they all look floaty too some extent.
Burnout Paradise maybe not so much
I haven't seen one yet - iRacing, RFactor, LFS, GTR series, Forza etc they all look floaty too some extent.
Burnout Paradise maybe not so much
I've never driven a kart, but I dunno look like they launch and flip quite easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHgOYbL8aWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8_L53XhwzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh6y_UTp5wI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHgOYbL8aWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8_L53XhwzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh6y_UTp5wI
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What was wrong with that? Karts are low, and have no suspension.
You don't think a kart hitting a high curb like that won't launch into the air?
Even my street car with nice comfy suspension and big wheels will launch into the air hitting a low speed bump traveling at 30+ kph and it feels quite jarring.
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