You'd think so, but I'm like you when it comes to engines sadly.

I suppose that it could help if it didn't blow up (makes me think about the engine trouble TRD had at Daytona and that they've won on almost all of the horsepower tracks this year (Cali., Vegas, Texas, Kansas..)

Holy crap

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... zed-after-kansas-win.html

:chair:

Quote from Gougoodthing :

V8 Supercar/NASCAR car swap at COTA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzrTDBwFyg

Thanks for sharing It didn't look like they got them very fast as far as speeds though

I look at it more from a fairness point of view. Those who have a good car are now more likely to be toward the front for the start and the same goes the other way around. Excitement wise I do agree with you though Benny, but I have to remain in favor of this.

You are correct PMD.

CotA would be much better than Kansas for a second time, or, heck, just about any mile and a half a second time, but I don't see it happening. It's a shame.

Quote from Gougoodthing :

Send 'em all out at once and make it a 20 minute session. Not this stupid "groups of 5-10 drivers" rubbish

Eh, I prefer the groups myself. Very unlikely that a slower driver will get in a faster driver's way or the other way around.

Car swaps are always cool and it'll be cool to see Sprint Cup cars at CotA

Car: LX6 Roadster (LX6) - Unrestricted - 142 kW (190 hp) - 539 kg (1188 lbs)
Track: Kyoto Ring Oval (KY1) - 2.980km (1.852 Miles) - 3 Turns
Distance of Race: 95 laps (175.940 Miles - 283.100 km) + 2 pace laps
Tyres Permitted: Road Super & Road Normal
Pit Window: 71 - 83 laps (fuel)
Pit Entry: Exit of Turn #3
Pit Exit: Exiting Turn #1
Saftey Car Speed: 60 MPH (96 km/h)
Bump Drafting: Not Permitted

Event Time Table* (GMT Clock)
Race Day: Sunday, May 12, 2013
-13:55 UTC – Teamspeak join deadline for Roadster 175 driver's meeting
-14:00 UTC – Roadster 175 Qualifying begins
-14:35 UTC – Grid Stacking begins
-14:40 UTC – Pace Laps Begin (2 pace laps, final pace lap being double file)
-14:45 UTC – Roadster 175 Green Flag (95 laps / 175.940 miles)
-16:10 UTC – Estimated race completion

* – All times are estimated. Teamspeak join deadlines are static unless otherwise noted on this thread or in a prior session.

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Quote :

Official Note: Any discussion here which is not directly involved with the event will not be tolerated. Any kind of insults will not be permitted on this thread. Please take them to PM's if you must do them at all. I beleive that many competitors would like to have a race discussion thread. Don't ruin that for everybody please. :scared:

No more talk on the matter. On to the rest of the season where teammates will hardly be a factor and bump drafting will no longer be an issue. Practice session news coming shortly. (Likely Saturday and Sunday morning if not sooner)

Quote from Gougoodthing :

I'm guessing it was just an exhibition race, though?

Yes, I beleive that they have also ran exhibition races in Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ykQxIHhhnA

They also went to Twin Ring Motegi, which was a better race, but they used the oval (1998 & exhibition as well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxAfyj8cgpM

I'm a little excited to be able to bring this news to you guys. I really like this change

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/ne ... se-qualifying-format.html

Group qualifying to come to the Sprint Cup Series at the road courses

Same as in the lower series'. No more one lap crap

Quote from Jettascuba :

Session: Stock Car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish): 27:18.17 to 27:24.27, lap 36 turn 1
Drivers Involved: 23, 45, 52
Description: 23 hit 52 while 3 drafting, both drivers lock side by side, 23 hit the wall, tried to regain control, no attempt at braking, stayed full to half throttle and tried to regain the racing line. At time of incident 75% of track was open for 45 to pass, had 45 hit the brakes he would have compounded the incident by driving into the bundle, 45 took low line, but 23 drove deliberately in front of him, at no stage during the incident he tried to brake. This is a direct violation of the Clean Driving Rules stating that cars should be stationary after an incident. Also a violation of Clean Driving Rules whereby which he simply continued without attempting to wait for 45 to pass him. 45 drove full speed in 23. After incident 23 continued trying to rejoin, and could've hit 96 in similar manner than 45.

Initital incident is caused by the 23 making contact with the inside wall. This collects the other two entries to his right. The 23 attempted to continue following this incident after his car straightened up, but again lost control and slid down the race track resulting in contact with the 45 car.

LFS issued a yellow flag warning to the 45 car 5 seconds prior to the contact with the 23 and Race Control issued the caution flag two seconds before contact.

This is a racing incident as these are all accidents and nobody gained anything in these instances of contact.

Quote from Jettascuba :

Session:: Stock car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish):1:15:02.39, lap 91, turn 3
Drivers Involved: 23, 53
Description: Car 23 made a move on 53 at t3, 23 understeers and drove in to 53 causing him to loose time and chances for good finish, the incident was avoidable

Note: 53 ask me to do the protest as he is afraid that he will state what he really think about 23's driving skills

There is slight contact as the 23 moves up the race track into the 53 through turn 3. This contact is avoidable, and because this results in a loss of time for the 53 and an advantage for the 23. A 10 point penalty will be assessed to the 23 car following this event.

Quote from Jettascuba :

Session: Stock Car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish): 11:20.15
Drivers Involved: 00
Description: Why no yellow flag?

Quote from Jettascuba :

Session: Stock Car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish): 8:30.84
Drivers Involved: 45, 26
Description: why no yellow flag?

We at Realistic NASCAR only throw cautions if it is deamed that a caution flag will help drivers not already involved in an incident. Directly from the Realistic NASCAR Rulebook comes the following statement.

"3.1 Yellow flags will be thrown if it is deemed that the slowing of participants would reduce the possibility of competitors receiving major damage due to a disabled or out of control race car. Drivers are asked to unblock chat messages under yellow flag periods if Teamspeak is not being used for an event. Chat will remain closed unless a competitor is asking for permission to speak. See Figure 6.
"3.2 The calling of flags will solely fall upon the hands of the administration team, and this will be achieved via the flagging system unless competitors are told otherwise."

The track behind the 00 was clear for some 30 seconds. We've done this time and time again. The 45 was removed from the racing surface immediately when the crash happened and therefore a caution flag would not have halped any of the other competitors.

Quote from Jettascuba :

Session: Stock Car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish): 8:20.10 and 8:30.84
Drivers Involved: 45, 26
Description: At 8:20.10 26 attempts to pass 45, cuts in front of 45, tap 45's front wing. at 8:30.84 26 understeers, hits wall, hits 45, causing 45 to retire

The 26 also caused an incident later in the race which lead to a drive through penalty for that driver. Following the event the 26 car will be assessed a 20 point penalty on top of the in-race penalty.

Quote from Jettascuba :

Lastly, a general protest:

1) It seems like admins are trying to artificially get an all Green race, by not throwing yellows - this changed drastically from previous races, why?
2) It seems like admins are not willing to give instant penalties for being afraid of loosing drivers. I do find that certain drivers gets unfairly 'picked' on, such as number 00.
3) Lack of practise races where incompetent drivers can be identified
4) The more admins loose motivation to run leagues, the less drivers will take part, the less penalties are given, the more the league will loose cautious drivers
5) Cancelling practise sessions and changing schedules due to a perceived lack of drivers is unprofessional and will not help the league to grow.

I have been in charge of running all of the practice sessions in all previous rounds and I have been (between work and school) unavalible over 70 hours a week. This was not true until the first of March, and this is what forced me to remove the license requirement from the Fern Bay 150. We will be working to alleviate me from all of these responsibilities so that we can continue having a proper number of practice sessions moving forward. We just havn't quite found a way to do this yet that works. We will be working towards this goal again as soon as possible.

We treat all drivers equally when they are placed under the same circumstances.

Quote from Denny12 :

Session: Stock Car 250
Time Code of Incident (start - finish): 1.42 - 1.46
Drivers Involved: 96,52,32
Description: 52 follows and passes lead group

Note: Not really a protest, just want this to be reviewed because of flamewar in discussion..

No administrative actions are required for this occurance. No rules were broken as a result.

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Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Jeff crashed in qualy.

Well...44th on the grid apparently.

Has he actually ever DNQ'd for a race?

No, he has not in the Sprint Cup, but oddly enough he DNQ'ed for the 1991 Daytona Nationwide race . That's his only NASCAR DNQ : http://racing-reference.info/driver/Jeff_Gordon

Qualifying Results: http://racing-reference.info/getqualify/2013-08/W

Joe Nemechek qualified 37th and will not start the race due to the rulebook. The top 36 positions are set on qualifying time, and the last 7 are set by owners points. Joe had less owners points than everybody else outside of 36th.

Not sure where I should post this, but I think this will be a good place for it . NASCAR Winston (now Sprint) Cup at Suzuka in 1996 . Pretty good race (though a little messy at times as expected with NASCAR pre-00's)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKbvfnp5yU0

Last edited by Cornys, Sun, 21 Apr 2013 03:59.

This round, only confirmed competitors will receive the event password. I'll be sending those PMs out when I wake-up in the morning, so expect them around 2 hours to an hour and a half before the race. Server will remain without a password until that time.

No skins are required.

I apologize for the lack of practice sessions. I had intended to have at least 4 sessions, but I haven't had much if any time on my hands recently. Between work and school I've been 'working' 60+ hour weeks the last 3 weeks and I needed to do some testing for the WTBOCS last Sunday (my only day completely off every week) . Then of course there's always homework to attend to.

IndyCar probably doesn't have any say in it. NBC usually carries golf (PGA) on Sundays. (Never mind, CBS carries golf usually, not NBC, so I'm confused.)

ABC doesn't want to broadcast all the races obviously for some reason. Even though their coverage isn't the greatest.

Looking at TV guide NBC has local programming on Sunday through 2:30 in competition with the Sprint Cup race, and then at 3 or so NHL (hockey) comes on. This is usual for them. They have F1 as well and it's trapped on NBC sports network..

Last edited by Cornys, Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:47.

Event time table updated due to the expected lack of competitors (about 10)

FO8 wouldn't handle F24 unfourtunately. That is correct. Great for XRT or something just a little slower than GT.

You guys could make an oval around the pit road wall at Fern Bay green if you wanted something different

I'd comment that I'd take away the KY3 layout in favor of another Aston event, but I'm sure that you have your reasons

Penske is also appealing.. they just might win that one

None of the others are.

http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20130417e

45 on the Kansas Cup series entry list

Same tires for this year's cup race as last year's fall race which was a crash fest and contained more cautions than any other on the schedule.

It's a sad occurance. Thoughts are with those involved.

That being said, there's not much else to read into it in my opinion. Only thing that I've learned that I didn't already know is that our media is completely retarded.

Look at the false reports that we've been hearing. They havn't even made an arrest and all of a sudden they have. Sigh.. wait until you know FOR CERTAIN before you report something!

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The suicide at the NRA 500 is even further complicated because of the fact that guns were not permitted on the infield. Which the NRA would not be in favor of

Expect qualifying times this week to top 200 MPH possibly at Kansas. Also, notice that there were a couple of suspension problems in the first truly stressful 500 mile race of the year on parts (the Daytona 500 isn't)

Hopefully this will not be an issue moving forward with the added downforce. Darlington is rumored to be super fast this year too, so the Southern 500 in a few weeks will be our first real indication as to how much of an issue this really will be. This is just a growing pain for the Gen-6 car and should take care of its self in time.

I don't mind speeds over 200 at Kansas in qualifying. In the race though, I would find an issue with it. That almost certainly won't happen, but the forecast shows little chance of rain on Sunday with cloudy skies and a high in the 60's. These are good conditions for speed.

Last edited by Cornys, Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:47.

This race had 4 "fake" cautions! Las Vegas had 2, Daytona had 3, and California had 3.

Phoenix (8 real cautions) and Martinsville (12 real cautions) didn't have any though.

Please tell me that I'm not the only person getting tired of it..

Round 4 – Nationwide 50 - 27 laps at KY1 - FZR (16% Res) - April 14, 2013 - 14:00 GMT - Layout

Round #4 of the 2013 Realistic NASCAR Open Series will be ran on April 14, 2013 starting at 14:00 GMT with qualifying (20 min.) These will be open track sessions unlike in the Cup Series so drafting will be permitted in qualifying.

The race will begin with a single (uncounted) pace lap at 14:30 GMT. This race is expected to last around 15 min. There will not be flags in this event, so be careful at all times . See links below before racing if you have not already done so.

Before participating please register on this thread: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=81505

And be sure that you understand how to start the race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2paAF-r50uU&feature=plcp

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Last edited by Cornys, Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:25.

Quote from CodeLyoko1 :

wutwut

It's been reported. It is being taken care of. It was not a competitor and I don't beleive that I've been in contact with this person on the LFS Forums before