I can agree with that, but I think that some things would happen regardless. Example being, the effect that other cars have on each other when they are not directly near each other, but at greater distances.
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Creating Aerodynamics in LFS
Just a curious inquiry. We have been discussing this in general on another thread in the beginners forum, but I was curious if anybody could inform us on the general difficulty of creating aerodynamics in a racing simulator. It seems difficult to me to program, but perhaps it's not; I'm not a programmer 
Road racing cars can oval race so long as safety is not an issue (This is a Simulator. Nobody dies from simulator crashes. 
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I think a better drafting model would be a great benefit, but I don't think it's required. If it was done, you'd probably just get more stupid Americans, and their money
. iRacing has already figured this out.
Edit: Here's a good video of Aerodynamics at work in IndyCar. Look at 0:49 Notice how Ryan Briscoe (on board) is gaining on Rahal (#15) until he pulls out of line of the entire pack of cars on the front stretch. In LFS that pass would have been completed, and Rahal would have only got a small pull from car that dropped down in front of him.
Then at 1:22, notice how BIG of a run Ed Carpenter (on board) gets off of Helio (#3) from running the outside line in three and four coupled with drafting, but can't make the pass until he out corners Helio in turn 1 and 2 due to the other cars in front of them staying low on the front stretch while he does high. In LFS, that pass would have happened every time, and the other car would have gotten no advantage from the cars 5-10 car lengths in front.
Then, following this, notice how Charlie Kimble (on board) make the same pass a lot quicker and easier with the cars ahead in his lane and on the inside (but way ahead this time).
)I think a better drafting model would be a great benefit, but I don't think it's required. If it was done, you'd probably just get more stupid Americans, and their money
. iRacing has already figured this out.Edit: Here's a good video of Aerodynamics at work in IndyCar. Look at 0:49 Notice how Ryan Briscoe (on board) is gaining on Rahal (#15) until he pulls out of line of the entire pack of cars on the front stretch. In LFS that pass would have been completed, and Rahal would have only got a small pull from car that dropped down in front of him.
Then at 1:22, notice how BIG of a run Ed Carpenter (on board) gets off of Helio (#3) from running the outside line in three and four coupled with drafting, but can't make the pass until he out corners Helio in turn 1 and 2 due to the other cars in front of them staying low on the front stretch while he does high. In LFS, that pass would have happened every time, and the other car would have gotten no advantage from the cars 5-10 car lengths in front.
Then, following this, notice how Charlie Kimble (on board) make the same pass a lot quicker and easier with the cars ahead in his lane and on the inside (but way ahead this time).
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I completely agree I'm more excited by the accuracy of the driving physics in every other category, and I'm glad attention was paid in areas other than drafting, but we are in full agreement. The drafting and aerodynamic physics are lacking, and we would both have a much greater appreciation of the simulator if it was fixed to be more realistic
Edit: I should have been more clear in my earlier post. I think the most attention was paid in regards to the driving physics most relevant to road racing. However, as you've pointed out, it's not sufficient or realistic for road racing even.
I'm more excited by the accuracy of the driving physics in every other category, and I'm glad attention was paid in areas other than drafting, but we are in full agreement. The drafting and aerodynamic physics are lacking, and we would both have a much greater appreciation of the simulator if it was fixed to be more realistic Edit: I should have been more clear in my earlier post. I think the most attention was paid in regards to the driving physics most relevant to road racing. However, as you've pointed out, it's not sufficient or realistic for road racing even.
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I don't think that LFS was built with ovals in mind. The drafting effect is sufficient with road course racing in mind, albeit a little strong.
I'd be careful, I don't think NASCAR simulators are entirely an effective guide to drafting. If you watch the Indy 500 for example, when a car is behind another, it doesn't increase the speed of the one in front as it does in a stock car. Each car will handle drafting differently, but stock cars that are used in NASCAR do handle it that way.
I think with oval racing in mind, NASCAR simulators are decent, and probably pretty effective for what they are simulating, but we shouldn't exact all types of cars to perform the same way as others in the draft
It would be awesome if ovals in LFS raced more like a race and less like a speed exhibition
I'd be careful, I don't think NASCAR simulators are entirely an effective guide to drafting. If you watch the Indy 500 for example, when a car is behind another, it doesn't increase the speed of the one in front as it does in a stock car. Each car will handle drafting differently, but stock cars that are used in NASCAR do handle it that way.
I think with oval racing in mind, NASCAR simulators are decent, and probably pretty effective for what they are simulating, but we shouldn't exact all types of cars to perform the same way as others in the draft
It would be awesome if ovals in LFS raced more like a race and less like a speed exhibition
The draft in LFS is too strong, and as a result LFS has developed a style of oval racing, and time trialing that is very difficult to learn. Few people try to race on the ovals in LFS, and most of the time is spent basically trying to turn in the best laps possible while drafting with others.
Many have began learning how to really turn up the speed on the oval, and they love doing it, but if anybody joins and they don't know the rules exactly, or execute them exactly, they will mess it up.
Also, drafting is made too localized in LFS. The draft is non-existent unless one is directly behind the other. In reality, the draft is a lot stronger there, but even following a car by an entire straightaway will, in reality, lend an advantage. As it is today, there is no advantage to this. Having 29 cars on the track in the same straight should lend a huge advantage to their speed, but in LFS it prevents building of the correct formation, and more often then not, leads to only crashes a terrible lap times.
29 cars out of formation should generally be quicker than 2 cars in formation, but the current model doesn't allow that to be even close to the case.
Many have began learning how to really turn up the speed on the oval, and they love doing it, but if anybody joins and they don't know the rules exactly, or execute them exactly, they will mess it up.
Also, drafting is made too localized in LFS. The draft is non-existent unless one is directly behind the other. In reality, the draft is a lot stronger there, but even following a car by an entire straightaway will, in reality, lend an advantage. As it is today, there is no advantage to this. Having 29 cars on the track in the same straight should lend a huge advantage to their speed, but in LFS it prevents building of the correct formation, and more often then not, leads to only crashes a terrible lap times.
29 cars out of formation should generally be quicker than 2 cars in formation, but the current model doesn't allow that to be even close to the case.
Short Cutting in Hotlaps
On Rockingham Sportscar (RO11) you are able to follow the oval course rather than going through the turn 1 chicane while turning hotlaps. Replay is attached. My FXO WR on that course (I beat one person, wooo! ) needs removed. I have another lap I will upload that is ran correctly.
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Edit: But really, why does it need to say anything other than "Hotlaps"
Edit: But really, why does it need to say anything other than "Hotlaps"
Absolutely. It was strange, and probably should not have been said. I can see why he is disappointed, but he didn't want to continue making Star Wars movies, so he has little reason to complain. It's his fault in the first place. He should not have sold his "children" to "white slavers."
If he would have written in the sale contract that his scripts were to be used in the contract, (or something of that sort) and accepted a lower sale price (as Disney would have required) he wouldn't be talking about this in this light.
If he would have written in the sale contract that his scripts were to be used in the contract, (or something of that sort) and accepted a lower sale price (as Disney would have required) he wouldn't be talking about this in this light.
I didn't post the link because of the slave reference, it was everything else that caught my eye that Lucas said. I changed the link after you posted. MSN is a sensationalist publication service.
I might try Stock Car Extreme, but I'm not going to look at getting into another game right now. Good suggestion, though
Good suggestion, though That would be simply awesome
Wouldn't be hard to do. Like the open or closed top option for the LX4 & LX6
George Lucas feels the say way I do about it.
http://collider.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-george-lucas-interview/
http://collider.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-george-lucas-interview/
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We Need Early 2000 Era CART Now
Okay, we need a new open wheel monster for S3 now that we have Rockingham. Give us something similar to early 2000's CART. 1000 hp, 1741 lbs with driver
Great movie A little disappointed in the choice of the large plot line, and disappointed that they apparently didn't follow Lucas's original movie plans for Episode 7. I feel like Lucas's choice would have been better than Disney's for the universe at large.
However, the smaller scale, more important plot lines were better than I could have hoped That's what makes this movie
A little disappointed in the choice of the large plot line, and disappointed that they apparently didn't follow Lucas's original movie plans for Episode 7. I feel like Lucas's choice would have been better than Disney's for the universe at large.However, the smaller scale, more important plot lines were better than I could have hoped
That's what makes this movie It's about the only day I had open :/ Oh well. Not enough interest for now :/
Secure from what? Who wants my Clash of Clans data, my contacts, my internet searches and text messages? Why do I care if they had it anyways? I'd give it all to the world for much less than $100 as long as I get to keep my phone
And anyways, when you say $100 that is a 100% increase in price for me.
Rockingham 200 (FZR Oval Event)
Just measuring interest at this point.
January 1st 2016.
Qualification at 14:15 UTC followed by race at 15:00 UTC.
Car: FZR
Race duration: 200 laps (caution free, around 1 hour 45 min. race time)
All interested, please reply. I'm pulling strings if it happens with my own time, but I want to make it happen
January 1st 2016.
Qualification at 14:15 UTC followed by race at 15:00 UTC.
Car: FZR
Race duration: 200 laps (caution free, around 1 hour 45 min. race time)
All interested, please reply. I'm pulling strings if it happens with my own time, but I want to make it happen
Is there anything we can try to do for you, Sam?
The message that really needs to be spread is unity. Join together. Embrace your fellow man no matter what your differences. Your enemies grow weaker when bonds are strengthened. Do not forget this.
This applies to all who are reading this.
This applies to all who are reading this.
There is no excuse for what has happened. We seek to analyze what has happened in a hope to prevent it from occurring again. This is part of the process, but we are ready to analyze because we are outsiders. Those more directly effected by the violence may never want to do such things, and that is understandable.
I apologize for angering you in this tough time by quoting older posts. I will be more mindful of others with my future posts on this thread. My thoughts are with those effected.
I agree, but not completely. There is a lot of truth to this, I think.
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