if you spun and you are sitting on the track, facing the wrong direction. just watch the map and DON'T move!
the following drivers see a yellow flag and they should'nt have any problems to avoid you, IF YOU DON'T MOVE! that's the worst thing you can do.
continue racing when there is no danger to others. this is a simulation, so don't shift+s.

tbh i dont like these rules either, especially the forced throttle cut on 3. but there is no point to have an argument, because it is just not wanted by the admins .

p.s. :
same goes for the blackwood layout. it doesn't punish the drive, who is cutting the chicane, it produces lots of flying tyres at the following drivers. yesterday, when i was starting from the back i had to evade (mostly unsuccessful) EVERY lap.

Last edited by Fetzo, Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:09.

Quote from Shotglass :

basically all that would have to be done is taking the autocross arena and slap some curbs of different radii on it ... i dont see how that could slow down the development of other tracks

ok, then lets see how many car/track-design improvements we got the last 2 years..... .
if we take the past development pace as a benchmark, i would estimat about half a year to build this track :P.

Last edited by Fetzo, Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:54.

Quote from ORION :

If you have one driver with problems, and he is in one team, and he gets one or 2 disconnects, the team has no chance to win. If you have 2 teams, and one driver has one or 2 disconects, one team has no chane to win, but the second team still has, because the disconnect affects only one team. The more teams, the more disconnects you can deal with.

but what has this to do with the maximum number auf racers per team?! no one is holding a team back to start with 3 racers and two racing-teams, even if there is a maximum team number of 6 racers.

they aren't forced to use that maximum aren't they? in your rules they even can signup 6 one-racer-teams.

btw. there are ppl who arent that competative as you seem to be. some racers just want to join the race with some friends and have a good time.

p.w.:
it's not a discussion when there are just some oldskoolers boasting that they have done some 24h races with less than 4 drivers. maybe it's my age, but for me the important part is the racing and the teamplay, not playing some game for a very long time and staying awake as long as i can. been there, done that, nothing to boast about. there was barely anyone who was objecting to more racers, but a lot who liked to have more drivers per team. most of them just stated with how much racers they would like to start.

Last edited by Fetzo, Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:11.

what have technical difficulties of individual drivers to do with the maximum number of teammates? 6 racers of one team can start with 6 individual teams even if the maximum teammember number is actually 6.

it's quiet the opposite of your statement, orion. if a driver has problems with his pc, its better if there are more drivers who can jump in for him.

there wasn't really a discussion about this topic. a lot of teams asked for bigger teams and the 24h-crew just said no. without a real reason. that's not a discussion.

i know, its your event and your rules. just don't pretend, you really have considered bigger teams. we have to shut out one of our drivers because of this.

Last edited by Fetzo, Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:59.

i dont think it helps, that the races are that long on this server.

12 laps on north is about 30 minutes each race. difficult to get such a server filled with drivers, if you have to wait that long for a restart.

there are a lot drivers who aren't that secure with the cars and a shorter race distance would definately be more attractive to them.

is this autokick really needed at all? i was never on a server where a racer was clean but that slow, that he is a danger to all other drivers.

it seems that this script does more damage than those drivers. I know it's because of impossible laptimes, but why autokick at all?

Quote from Vykos69 :

yeah, place was packed always, and people waited up to 2 hours to drive in the BMW cockpits (BF1 on AS nat). As the whole last year on the intel racing tour. I actually was there a day too, but I only raced it once... against Timo Glock (current BMW F1 Testdriver, last year GP2 4th place, 2005 rookie of the year champcars)

i hope you bashed that noob!

Quote from Jakg :

SO Sprint 2 Rev i was in an LX4 and was keeping up with RAC's and OVERTAKING FZ5's!

well this is one track that on which the lx-cars have a huge advantage compared to heavier ones. try this on most of the other tracks....tracks with some straights that are longer than 200 meters.

i am sure that i can beat most lrf drivers on fe rx green in a rb4. does this mean the rb4 is fast enough to race in the lrf-class?

Quote from Viper93 :

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hehe, you really think that "normal" drivers wouldn't have a chance against platinum ones? sorry, but most of them just have more time than other fast racers. i even have seen a lot of drivers who were shockingly slow and did have the platinum license.

i don't care about the points, i just want to race on a decent lrf server, with a car i like to race and i am not the only one. it would be ok for me, if i dont get any points by driving the lx6.

lx4 is not really a competative alternative on a LRF server and is because of that not popular.

Quote from Becky Rose :

But nobody did cut the throttle, everyone in LFS flatshifts. This is why the aid is forced on. Also remember if you manual clutch you can turn throttle cut off again, so if your wheel has 3 pedals then go for it. This was done as a balancing measure to return some lost time to people with stick shifts. If it's realism you are after, a 3 pedal + stick shift arrangement is what you need , otherwise the throttle cutting is doing something that nobody bothers with usually, when in real racing, they would.

well not everyone is flatshifting and having the engine cut automatically sounds for me, like there is something wrong with my lfs.

i really regret that i have added this little sentence to my post up there, as it was not the reason i wrote that post. in fact it is REALLY NOT that important to me.

again......the point i was trying to make is, that by limiting the lx6 to platinum users, you are making it much harder for the lrf server to be a success. you wondered what you could do to make the lrf server more popular, so my recommendation would be to make the lx6 available to more racers.

i don't see the reason why the lx6 is only for platinums.
p.s.:
if you are thinking about quoting and replying only to the first sentence of this post and ignore the rest of it, pls ignore the whole post.

Last edited by Fetzo, Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:29.

Quote from SamH :

The LRF market is small anyway, and where it's vocal is mostly on the forum. It doesn't translate to the track at all. The throttle cut on upshift is an STCC stipulation, rather than relating in any way to the drivability of any individual car. Since it's run by and associated with the STCC league, the driver aids and the track layouts are common to both the league and the public servers. Right or wrong is subjective. The one universal truth in this regard is that it's "STCC"

for drivers who used to cut the throttle by themselves, it's less fun. you can't race like you are used to do. but that wasn't the main point, i was trying to make...

Quote from SamH :

The LX6 is my fave.. the RAC and FZ50 are fun, but I can't be competitive in them.

...this is.

in fact you are limiting the userbase for that server yourself. as i said, the most popular and fastest car of them all is not available to most of the racers. the lx6. there aren't just that many platinum users.

rac is a weirdo and fz50 just eats its tyres. the forced throttle cut doesn't bring more fun into it, too.

i dont understand how this works. how can the game decide on which objects my eyes are focusing?

if it blurs out objects i am actually looking at, it would feel weird, wouldn't it?


edit: oops, i think kegetys explained it better than me

Quote from XCNuse :

..if only LFS looked like rFactor..

LFS wouldn't have problems on the market like it does


(and no i'm not kidding)

lfs has problems on the market?

on my pc lfs looks way better than rfactor, but i dont have a high end machine.

Quote from Shotglass :

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but if it does you should never go ahead and take advantage of it ... if it werent for the tap you wouldnt have had a run up his inside in that paticular case due to not even trying to outbrake him
so what you sould have done is staying behind him and no it wasnt a legal move like you claimed in the chat...

thats the thing that really ticks me off, when it happens to me. guys are tapping me from the back, mostly followed by a quick "sorry", but then they use their own fault to their advantage and try to overtake me after putting me into a weak position because they rammed me off the racing line.

i didn't watched the replay, so i cannot judge it, but the behaviour shotglass described is unfortunately pretty common among many racers and it annoys me much more than some final but unwanted takeouts.

most of the time, the racers don't even notice that this is unfair.

Quote from Sketchyrollin564 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKqOxnxcwI

theres a good incar rally vid for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG5pEOu8l3o

better one, imho. and yes, its rallycross not rally :P. the metro sound is awesome!

Quote from Kalev EST :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsQ7njdqDTw

lol!! hehehe, didn't know that one. sadly there is not much material from these days out there, that doesn't show mostly crashes.

when schanche stepped out of the car and stopped the race by just standing in the middle of the track and waving his hands he showed how 'crazy' he can get . he was banned for the rest of the season though.

Last edited by Fetzo, Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:16.

thank you for reminding me ingo, i totally forgot.

i tried to use only a view cameras to imitate the look of tv-broadcasts.

no rail cams though. really sorry for nearly messing it up. i hope you guys like it nevertheless.

that wouldn't be rallycross anymore . by definition rallycross races are held on mixed surfaces (tarmac and gravel).

but i agree, a 100% gravel track would make the knobblys useful and would be definately fun .

Quote from southamptonfc :

I did do that, he's not very good at bf1.

However, having read his post again I realised I'd misundestood what he'd written!!!!! Doh! He wasn't saying that bf1 is rubbish but giving another example of a generalisation. So I just changed my post to 'lfs'

ok he is .4 slower on blackwood than you. but he did it in 30 laps, you needed over 1100 .

i don't wanna pick on this any more, but it's definately not jealousy .

Quote from southamptonfc :

Ha, Jealousy, you didn't understand what I wrote, like you probably don't understand how to drive the BF1

hrhrhr, awesome! you really should at least check lfsworld before you post something like this . you are talking with sinbad here :P

i cannot think of any other good game where rx is implemented at all. so lfs is my choice

as tukko said, the lx6 is great for rallycross, although my personal favourite will always be the fz50.

unfortunately, the devs decided not to work on the rx part after s1, but i am hoping for the best.

i am really looking forward to a new rx league .....mask?...busta? where are you guys?!?!

racing the fxr with slickmod is a blast is awesome and is the nearest thing you can get in lfs to a div 1 rx car.

one big problem for hardtrack racers is the collision-problems lfs has that are way more severe because of the many bumps. you have to adjust and drive even more clean and fair than on the hardtrack servers to survive a race. sadly many new rx-drivers do exactly the opposite.

Last edited by Fetzo, Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:03.

thx again for this, dodo.

i enjoyed each racing evening we had the last wednesdays a lot.

no one should know who the stig is!