Eric is maybe building a Fern Bay Nordschleife in the meantime👌🏻

Taavi(EST): nice one. I love my polo 2 ( small 1.05 with 45hp there). I got thumbs up regularly on the road, gas station...a very enjoyable ride (especially with bilstein B6, even if they are a bit too stiff for such 'light' car). I understand your love for such car !

Bob Smith : whatever the engine/transmission : the most enjoyable part in driving to my taste is taking corners. The model 3 perf I bought is giving a nice rotation of the back when hitting the accelerator, and it is quite nice regarding this, maybe even more savage than the AMGs I had. The most negative point I encounter up to now is that you cannot disable esp while driving...you must stop, engage the parking mode, put the track mode (it runs the fans for the battery at max)... Where is the spontaneity ? 😁 All this is of course subjective, but if the engine of the polo was as violent as the one of the Tesla, it would become a deadly weapon 🤣

Default setup are a good idea..they are just not good (maybe due to current physics) currently. I have created in the past some default setups that gives the feeling of driving the real counterpart of the cars and use them each time I am running lfs nowadays (I do not try to go fast, just to enjoy the physics). I hope to have this same feeling with the default setups in the future (New tire physics ftw). But I understand the point : a base option to select a default setup for each car could indeed be pleasant.

Quote from VladM :

Best idea is for Scawen to stop responding. People are always gonna complain, there's been 20 threads of people asking about "development progress" this year alone.

the hype is high !

Thousands are not registered because the physics is at 100Hz.
In a next release, we can guess that as Scawen is trying to implement a system with the new tire physics to compute it at 1000Hz => ms on the way

mod update was more important at that time ! It brings new people to the party (and so some funds for the devs), while the graphical update may not bring that much in the end !
Anyway, you read it : Scawen is on topic with tire physics, and the graphical update is very advanced => so we can expect things to move forward 'soon' .
We just wait for Eric to spam us with some Fern Bay 2.0 teasing screenshots

17.5mpg seems to be 13.5l/100km => with the amg cars I had (v8 aswell), it sounds impossible to reach this unless you are on highway driving at a constant speed for a longtime . In normal condition, 16l/100km was quite good by being very gentle. While on highway I could effectively reach 11.5.

Do not know this car model nor even the brand, but it looks nice and sexy ! The seats look very nice !

Have thought for me, I will have electric engines soon instead of the mighty NA v8 ...

U7 was a test patch for 0.6U version.
When you ran the 0.7D version, it embeds everything you need already, so you should not install the U7 test patch onto the 0.7D

interesting

Kepp faith Scawen, you will do magic, we are sure
Indeed splitting the thing seems a hard job ! Better to be sure to have everything under your hands before starting the journey !

Good .
What about splitting LFS into multiple threads : still an option currently or too much changes to be considered ?

But Eric is full of surprises : see the RB4 2.0 😁

Challenge for Eric 🤞🏻

I put a picture taken on my polo coupé from 1989 next a ds3 : yes the ds3 is of course bigger, but it is not that huge anyway. At least, looking at the XF2 next the XF GTi gives the impression that the XF2 would be an SUV
So lfsrm, as you are certainly more expert on this topic : do you think LFS cars could maybe be too "small/narrow" compare to a classic value ? As I am sure you did some great computation to make the XF2 looks real.
Maybe comparing it to a real car like the raceabout on which the real dimensions are known would probably highlight if some tricks in the computation done by Eric have been done

I agree with the point but aren't lfs original cars from the 90s ? I would expect less differences in size even if of course the xf2 has to be bigger as it is produced (😁) around 10 years later.

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I feel that's more reactive maybe 1450-1500 if 1750 is too much higher? But this is just my feeling, i don't know if it's real.

Idle RPM is not that high on road car. 800-900 is quite ok on such car, even if the engine size would allow lower. 1st gear shall be short : usually you expect reaching 50-55km/h max in the limiter, what makes it not really usable when 'driving' unless you are stopped and expect to move the car.

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The car general dimensions are fine (compared to other small hatchbacks), it's the car width around the windows/pillars area that are a bit too large, that's why I should've gave some more thickness to the interior panels and narrowed the whole top of the car when I started this project.

it's fascinating how interiors ergonomics expose all the flaws of exterior design !

I understand the comment from versiu : when you put the xf2 next to current LFS cars : it looks very huge

Anyway, the changes done are very good , the car feels nicer, even if the base setup makes it quite brutal by losing the back (clutch pack lsd is increasing the thing). Anyway, as expected, it looks beautiful ... this and the RB4 2.0 are clearly beauties ! Can't wait to have the graphical updates on the tracks to admire these !!

very nice and beautiful (as expected )
Physics wise, for the engine I would see more the car having a redline at 7500 or 8000 rpm. I know LFS original cars (fictional ones) have a quite high redline, but sounds a bit fantasy to have 9000 in a small gti car
Regarding the base setup (not to race), I made some quick testing and by softening the springs/arb, getting a bit more ride height, less camber, a shorter 1st gear (road car ) and a basic viscous lsd (open diff not really good with current physics), it feels very cool . Brilliant !

I see your point and indeed the magical 3cyl era came to life with Ford 10 years ago and the 1.0 ecoboost
As this car intends to be mid-2000, the turbo engines were not really used in these kind of vehicles (non-diesel of course). So indeed a 1.8 or even a 2.0 NA is probably even more appropriate (i.e. : a Fiesta ST was having a 2.0 producing 150hp, a swift sport was having a 1.6 doing 125hp...)

it is indeed very nice ! Really matching a real car that may exist !
For the engine, I would also be more expecting a modern small turbo engine. Like the 1.3 from its ancestor with more modern power output or even a downsized one like a 1.2 or 1.0 with 3 cyl producing something like 150hp .
But your hand-built toy, your choice

yeah

Very nicely done !!!

Looks like a great addition !!

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When that Scirocco is released, people are going to drive around in it and I can assure you, they won't be just unbelievably happy about the experience for the next several months. Most likely they'll do a few laps then wonder what all the fuss was about. It's pretty crazy really if you think about it.

It will bring ESP and electrical differential (applying brake on the spinning wheel) in LFS => just add torsen diff and we are close of having most of the classic system used on road cars ! This will then allow doing even better mods regarding the handling
Of course having aswell an ecu like rallycars (those who practice(d) RBR will understand) were used to have would be interesting (not sure they are still having this technology nowadays)...

Fern Bay 2.0