Quote from ErAri :

"we have a plan"

haha

What you mean? Explain, explain.

Yeah, since when do we plan things upfront ?

Quote from RevengeR :

We have fully loaded tankers of all brands. Definitely a joining reason

Tactical Nuclear Pinguin!!

Disrespectful how Horner tries to talk advantage for Vettel. First they say that they told Webber to go on a lower fuel mode thing, so he was slower because of that. Now suddenly it's "seems like Webber was starting to struggle with his tyres".

Quote :

Horner acknowledged that Vettel had the faster pace at the time of the incident.
"It looked like Mark started to struggle with the rear tyres a bit more - that's what it looked like on the pit wall," said Horner. "And Sebastian, between laps 38 and 39, really closed up rapidly to the back of Mark, obviously got a run on him on lap 40 and they both found themselves in a situation they didn't want to be in."

Interesting how Webber asked the team to tell Vettel to back down one lap before the crash, but it got denied "because of the Mclarens being too close". Wouldn't those get even closer if both Redbulls started fighting over position ??

Bah bah bah, this just leaves a sour taste in my mouth as suporter.

Vettel's words, now you really can notice that he sounds like a little kid and has no valid arguments to defend his action. His opening word already shows an argumental basic flaw:

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"Obviously, I think if you look at the pictures it was clear I had the inside," said Vettel. "I went on the inside, I was ahead and just going down to focus on the braking point and honestly, you can see we touched and he touched my right rear wheel and I went off."
He denied that the collision was going to put the intra-team relationships at Red Bull under strain.
"There is no fight

Bold: Yeah, and you always focus on the braking point by swinging your car in your teammates car ?

Meh. I'm going to support someone else for championship from now on.

I do have to laugh at this entire "no teamorders"-rule... It's being done all the time just by coded language and so forth.

Poor Webber, he didn't do anything wrong in my opinion.

- Defending his position normally.
- Vettel should not do such risky moves on a terrible dirt trackside (he could have passed on the right side like Alonso - Petrov).
- Vettel should not do such risky moves, especially as with the slightest error Hamilton would pass.
- Vettel should not have been in the arrogant assumption that Webber would leave a sea of room for him.
- Webber IS leading the championship before and after the race.

Though I forsee Webber being blamed. Financial wise a German being a worldchampion instead of an Aussie in an Austrian/German team is better. Seeing Horner's responce when Vettel went to the pitrow is truly disappointing. Horner should be angry at Vettel and sanction him, not give him comforting hugs and saying "it's okay". I just got disappointed in the RBR as team...

A nice race though. Too bad of the huge gap between the two tops teams and the rest. Very amusing to see the levels of those in their group being so close. Mercedes-Renault-Ferrari train is nice. And seeing the top 4 so close so far in a race is also exciting!

I do am kind of looking for a onboard replay of Alonso-Petrov. Curious how exactly it happened..

Congratulations!

Quote from three_jump :

Pit stops, fuel consumption, tire wear, new tracks, clear windows and insim updates

"added Wed, July 2nd, 2008 16:20"

I admire Scawen and the other Devs, I love LFS partly because of those Devs and how they handle things in general. I know that they are still working on LFS and I know that they are motivated. I love LFS because of things like Scawen making his very own tyre model. That is what defines LFS and makes it so much better in my personal opinion than anything else.

However, I fear to be let down. It's been a long while now, with little to no concrete news. I fear that when the next update comes, that it will contain interior texture updates, new South City track textures and an updated errorless Chinese manual document or other such (to me) nonsense. I fear that when the next update comes, it will not have any crucial updates to the sim racing aspect, but only to graphical aspects or other of that tiny stuff... as we have noticed in the last ~2 years. That's why I want updates, or in the minimal clear communication from the Devs to the community with what is going on in the programming scéne. Ten lines and one picture is more than enough to keep me going for another six months... but just give us a shoutout and most of all a clear signal that you are this time actually working on sim racing important things (most of all being physics) and not "keeping yourself busy" with yet another manual in another language or some graphical sillyness.

LFS is not a game, it is a racing simulation.
So where are the improved physics staying ? :hyper:

I'm one of the guys who always agreed with "It comes when it is ready, I trust the Devs, go have fun with what we have!", and I still have fun in LFS however... things are supposed to get ready by now. I've been drooling for over 15 minuts on the iRacing website now and really got frustrated with our interior texture car update compared to the V8 Ford release - for example. Not to mention how entire nfinity eSports Racing is spending all their time in iRacing and I'm left out alone in LFS fetching my own setup...

Nearly 6 months have passed since Z28 patch, which contained the following glorious, and barely wanted by the community, updates:

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Reduced minimum view height in SHIFT+U mode
Reduced minimum speed in SHIFT+U mode to 0.1 m/s
Multiple host passwords are now stored (Join Specific Host screen)
Added support for lfs:// (start LFS with command line from web page)
FIX : Could not join S1 or S2 host after unlocking in Multiplayer screen
FIX : Clicking SPR / MPR did not work with "Load track when starting"
FIX : Two or more dedicated hosts could be started with same port
FIX : It was possible to reset the car while a vote was in progress
FIX : Help buttons sometimes translated after returning to English

Or differently put: a lot of text to say that no simulation racing benefitable update has been done. Screw that multilanguage manual or password saving, I want sim racing relevant updates! I don't even need new cars or tracks, just update the present content already (the tyres, braking, suspension model, weather improvement, car handling, ect...)!

Less bullshit, more sim updates. And preferable without waiting for 6 months long (and actually even longer than that as Z28 didn't introduce any sim racing important updates as mentioned above). I understand that there is no entire funding or crew behind LFS as for example iRacing, that's fine. I can live with less and do not want an iRacing clone. But at least make some racing relevant updates.

You're killing my favourite game, Devs. Five years have passed, seven actually if you include my demo time, and I've taken my fair share of breaks with LFS. I do not want to take another break. I want to have great racing fun! I want to feel the exitement again! I want to race again, in LFS! Not saying that LFS is dead like all the troll kids or such, far from, but a new wind is sure more than welcomed! Not so much for myself as for with those who I race for over seven years and who race much more active than me and have got tired of always the same lapping and stuff.

Say hi to the little kids by the way, Scawen. Although... by now they're already long out of kindergarten!

Sincerely,

Last edited by GianniC, Sat, 1 May 2010 08:39.

Quote from Sheepyfun :

well little question for the As club set
do you use 2-5 gear or only 3-5 gear until racing?
im not sure if its fast with using 2nd @ the hairpins (of course the gear ratio is different)

I'm using 3-5...

As I said before; there is also for sure a blame to be put on the two racers themselfs. I have also told that to Rev myself.

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No racer is waited specifically even though in first event, due to more relaxed schedule, some races might have started few minutes later. In no circumstances will that justify being late.

However my main problem with this is the inconsistency. A noteable large delay in waiting for a racer in Event 1, while barely any delay for two other racers in Event 2. Thus, while I appreciate your reply, I still fail to see an answer to my question: Why the waiting in Event 1 could be done and not in Event 2 ? Cause you were on a tight own caused shedule ? Smaller grids or not, every pool had their big accidents and it is not the racers fault that you decided to go for a tight shedule - hence I'd also put up questions with the need of this tight shedule caused by smaller grids. Perhaps with more racers everyone would have been more careful - food for thought for the next time... It doesn't justify being late, but does it justify the inconsistency ? That one racer in Event 1 nicely has his points, while these two racers, both in battle for the championship, do not.

I also wonder how responsible it is to have no general communication between an extern admin monitoring official chats - forum and the race host. If during these 3-5 curcial minuts that both racers asked for aid on the official channels the race host had been in contact with an external admin to find out what was up with the missing racers, then both could easily have joined in and made the race.

Anyway, all this talking won't aid much. Admins see themselfs in no error, racers see themselfs in no error.

I'm just sad that the championship has already partly been decided on this off-track way.

Last edited by GianniC, Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:03.

Quote from russraine :

can't deny that hosts have started the race late on occasion and sometimes have waited perhaps two minutes if a large number of racers were missing.

1 racer - not pole. 5 minuts waiting. Round 1.
2 racers - pole + 3rd. 0 minuts waiting. Round 2.

Time differences were small, but had a huge impact on the race ànd championship! My problem with this is: Why the delay in event 1 and not in event 2 ? Why is appearantly not everyone equal for the rules ?

Quote :

This is clear and advanced warning that races would start on time and racers needed to arrive early.

Agreed, and both racers are not entirely free of guilt, however they were more than 5 minuts before the race start trying to get into the server.

Quote :

Regarding the password issue - all evidence we have is that the site was functioning correctly and the passwords were available for all racers. There is no way to diagnose or verify your issue. The server password is changed when the grid is formed by our RaceControl software, thus anyone arriving too late to the grid cannot join server.

Perhaps RaceControl was put on too soon ? It is manually put on. If you know that your polesitter + 3rd qualified are NOT there, surely you can delay for 2-5 tiny minuts the start - especially as everything (as first race) was perfectly on shedule. It is in my eyes a bad and respectless decission which as made (to start RaceControl) with such race and championship key figures missing (but who do were online and trying to get in).

[quote]You also suggest that the staff are miracle workers; the hosts are not obliged to monitor the forums or chatterbox just minutes before the race start whilst they are preparing for a race to begin - this is the staff's most busiest time of the weekend.[QUOTE]

No, but other staff are checking the OLFSL site and other. You should all be in contact with eachother and could easily have warned the specific racehost to delay the start or turn RaceControl off again. That is what would have happened if you as Admin staff had respect for your pool 1 racers - cause like it or not, present LFS mentality only cares about pool 1 results, if they care about OLFSL enough to even check it out (eg. compared to Masters of Endurance).

So any official reply please why in round 1 the admins waited full 5 minuts after the official race starting time (also without changing password) for 1 racer, while now the server password was changed full 5 minuts before the official starting time, very well knowing that 2 racers (polesitter pool 1 + 3rd qualified pool 1) were online asking for help on the official OLFSL site and that nothing was done to aid them getting in the race ?

Why is that one racer in event 1 more important than the two other racers in event two ?

Quote from varjsa-9 :

I'm truly sorry, but you just were too late.

1. You have waited previous event up to 5 full minuts for another racer. You have previously, despite the by you qouted rules also being in effect, waited for other racers in other events as well - even on me once when I was 3 minuts late.

2. We are talking about pool 1. We are talking about the pole of previous race ànd the race winner of previous race. We are talking about the pole of current race. The racer is well upfront online (I was speaking to him on MSN +20 minuts before the race start and he was making himself ready to race). The racer asked for aid on the official pages and all you said was "It's there look better" - instead of quickly PMing him the password.

Rules are rules and they indeed go for everyone, futue championship winner or pool 6 racer. But if you wait in event 1 for someone who was not even yet online, but not in event 2 for someone who was online asking for help (and not being the only one!), then clearly "rules are rules" is a bad argument.

3. Furthermore it shows in my opinion a lack of respect from the Admin staff towards the racers to start the race knowing very well that the two missing racers are on the OLFSL site asking for help with the bad password. And especially pool 1 polesitter!



My race was decent. Race 1 from 9th to 2nd. Race 2 from 2nd to 1st, but on lap 13/15 my throttle pedal spring went broke resulting in every turn nearly crashing, so I lost position 1 in the prelast lap... Meh. Still got two times 2nd though and had my race pace which I wanted to achieve (55:36-60 times).

Quote from manneF1 :

Is it never possible that someone isnt spaming team threads...?

Shh, it's done so that they look popular and good.
All part of the super secret non-conquerable plan.

Quote from el pibe :

today, is the happyest day of my life.

i took a Pontiac Montana ( yes, a minivan ) around the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve.... at... 30km/h


since the circuit itself is a '' street '' during 50 weeks a year, there is a speed limit...

still, it was good fun hitting every apex and telling my mom on wich corner a grand prix driver had an accident....

Reminds me of that tour I once did on Spa Francochamps, speed limit to reduce noise for the 3 neighbours building a villa around the circuit. (:shrug

For those who're interested in following up our Wyatt "WGooden" Gooden in the real life VW TDI Jetta cup here are the live race results (race 1 is currently ongoing in lap 7): http://livetiming.net/scca/VW/ ... leader.PKT&ID=23442PM

To know how he got there, check iRacing's website or the short story on our nfinity website!

Quote from RevengeR :

hahaha funny guy. Gianni if you don't correct it to Béla I'm gonna kick ur gay belgian ass

Damn, you spotted it.

Latest nfinity eSports Racing news:

- Our website received a new update, please check it out! http://www.nfinityesports.eu

- Feel free to test out the nfinity eSports Racing twitter or join our Facebook group, use the flashy buttons on our website to do so!

- A new video was made public concerning the VW Jetta Cup, check it out on this Youtube Link.

- Our iRacing squad continues to grow with Jaco Roux joining nfinity eSports racing! Welcome mate! More information can be found here.

- Of course there is still nfinity eSports Racing in Live For Speed: Last week Béla 'Revski' Perei won the first round of a new OLFSL season, second round is coming up this sunday ànd will again be live broadcasted by the OLFSL Team.


That is all for now.

Last edited by GianniC, Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:32.

My only comment on that kind of racing is: penalties after the race ? It happened in lap 5, make a decission based on the rules and get done with it. ****ing FIA / race marshalls, losing all their credibility like that with me. Plus the stuff in front of the pits is cool for me, the stuff inside pits with Vettel and Hamilton there is a big no - safety in the pitlane above racing, it's not like it was the last lap or something. The steering into last turn, going full over grind and white lane back into the pits of Hamilton there is also eyebrown frowning to me, should give him a penalty or warning at least (not sure what pit entry white line rules state exactly ?). For the rest I didn't saw anything penaliseable. Some heavy going to the outside pushing here and there but... that's the racers themselfs who cause it. Racer A pushed B out wide now, next race B won't be gentle for A anymore - they make their own reputation and consequences for their behavior, no need for rules to interfere (or even worse knowing FIA: to pick sides!). Reminds me to that NASCAR affaire not long ago (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82267).

Petrov did nice, then again he had fresh rubber. Too bad Webber made an error, would prefer to have seen them racing for it to see Petrov's value (Webber had also new rubber). Then again, errors or not making errors is also part of the racing!

Mclaren: rules don't count for them
Ferrari: failers, kick massa out
RedBull: fast, but tactic is failing
Renault: simple, but good
Force India: dropped a bit this race, but overall good
Mercedes GP: good, but just that bit not fast enough
Rest go home ffs and let me sleep with these lame Asian GPs.

Last edited by GianniC, Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:27.

Quote from pacesetter :

Not sounding negative, or pissing on their parade, but this is what was expected of nfinity :P Yet to win MoE

We're not even trying.

Nice new team and good looking skins, may we have fun racing together! (well, I'll be respecting the blue flag nicely for ya guys!)

Quote from Kalev EST :

This is better... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLejkyXbJlc

Whoaw!

No racing, just a rally car jumping 250 feet or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3z-6nf-lNo

Quote from amp88 :

Mid-race refuelling was done in F1 well before Brabham did it (e.g. in the '50s). Also, the commentator is Clive James (Australian, not British).

edit: Attached image of Alfa Romeo refuelling a car during the 1951 British GP.

Yeah, I knew the refueling wasn't true. Sorry about the Aussie, sounds Brit to me.

"With Patrese's car going very slowly, as thought it wanted to do something. Yes, it wanted to burst into flames."

Have fun all !
Will there be broadcasts ? I read that somewhere I think...

PS: I read the rules, but don't really spot specific changes. Anything major different aside the good olde "race clean, fast and fair" ?