Let's finish this silly argument once and for all - I designed this track so that at no point would the bear and giant squid ever have contact with each other, thus reflecting Nature herself! To allow such a thing would be a critical design flaw along the lines of the craptacular cooling system in the Xbox 360 or the ridiculously time consuming upgrade process in Gran Turismo (or the inclusion of so many completely redundant cars, which is more a question of "wtf" than a design complaint and which is also beside the point).

The giant squid I've spec'd for this track (haven't thought of a name for the track yet, by the way - suggestions are welcome) is actually a baby giant squid (which should be bloody obvious from my diagram). It's the perfect size to flail the odd tentacle out of the water and snare a car as it crosses the water jump but not so big that it can devour the entire grandstand or pluck snipers from Mosley Castle. Seriously, I have actually thought this through, y'know ...

The racing car comment was for TC

Cars are overrated. I've got my Hoffman BMX & a Kona cross-country bike. Sorted in any weather :up:

Someone sold you a miniature racing car

The Tilke turns are part of my contractual agreement with the FIA. They're contained in the "For The ****ing Sake Of It" and "Because We Can" Clauses.

Nonononono, you see, the Giant Robot Hammers only work during a safety car period (it's very hard to hit a speeding F1 car with a giant robot hammer as you could imagine). Accordingly, it's in the driver's interest to avoid collisions in that section of the track lest they have to pass through it puttering along behind the safety car.

The snipers can use their discretion - however, they get more points for their teams (each racing team may have only one sniper operational at any one time) if they score hits during the race, rather than taking potshots at cars on the grid or at slow cars during safety periods. It's all common bloody sense really.

Bring it! Sure, Oasis and Jamiroquai haven't done jack all worth noticing for, um, quite some time but it's still a good move. Who's next of the big guns? U2, Metallica, Muse, Foo Fighters, Kanye, Beyonce, JT? Could the party be over for big record companies hosting big bands, screwing them and charging us through the nose to own their material? Maybe record companies will be relegated to being small indie concerns or to a sort of development level instead being the point of the pyramid, fostering new talent to a point where they can go it alone ... hell, I'll happily sign my band to a shitty deal with a big record company TODAY if they promise to make us rich enough to eventually render them redundant

edit: first listen. That was really, really nice. Production is awesome. It demands another listen. I'll go get my *ahem* paraphernalia.

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Go Trent :up: Given his very public stoush with his record company last time he was in Oz this is no surprise at all.

It seems this new-fangled no-middle-man approach is working too. According to a band spokesman, people seem to be spending around the same on the new DRM-free Radiohead download (the one you can pay as much as you want for) as they would normally. Good ol' honesty Seems you can actually trust music consumers after all. It's not the fans who screw the bands ...

edit: Download should be ready to grab when I get home tonight. Suh-weeeeet

edit 2: just landed in my inbox! Something to listen to with a brewski when I get home. Sweet. I love the future.

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Seemed bloody obvious to me to separate them. While bears and giant squid are not natural enemies (or even natural neighbours - you don't see giant squid swimming up rivers to spawn), the potential consequences of a cephalopod/ursine battle mid-race could be catastrophic, and not in that good "wow cool, everyone's on fire/airborne/in pieces" NASCAR kind of catastrophic. I mean I'd lose a perfectly good bear, then I'd have to go through the tedious audition process all over again.

Kevin, I'm feeling quite remorseful that we hi-jacked this thread but, on the other hand, I'm really not.

Oy vay, Canuck war C'maahn, hug it out!

:up: Woz. Straight from the horses's mouth too. Seems some fans of certain driving disciplines would do well to know their own bible before quoting it to people

WD Toseland :up: He's always been a great competitor and I'm sure he deserved every point (my liking of riders named Troy notwithstanding ). I wish they'd put SBK back on free TV down here though. I have to pay for bloody cable or net feeds if I want to watch it these days *grumble bastard mumble*

I caught the first couple of hours and the last 10 laps - omg, bloody brilliant racing at the end there! I missed all the great stuff in the middle due to obligations though. Bah! Next Sunday's the Phillip Island MotoGP round and I am not bloody moving for anything. Go Vermuelen!

Another great champ taken unfairly.

RIP Norick

Thanks Kev :up: It's just not a proper track these days without a few Herman "because I bloody well can and so should the cars" Tilke-syle corners.

I was thinking of a cool obstacle along the back straight: the cars would have to flip their aero kit and fly across a huge sandtrap into the braking zone, but then I thought "what would Herman do?" and just copy/pasted a double bus-stop.

That's the spirit Kev. More excitement - more spectacle! We must do Mosley's bidding. Here's my entry (you run it anti-clockwise, except for final qualifying):

Yay, zombie thread :zombie:

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why don't you just make the drift lesson optional. it is a racing simulator, but the word racing is very general and usually describes preformance driving.

I think you have that totally backwards.

"Racing" is actually quite a specific & important term in the world of LFS, in that racing (the object of which is to be faster than your opponents) is the sole focus of the game, while "performance driving" is possibly the vaguest term I've ever heard! It could describe racing, drifting, burnout competitions, stunt driving, vintage car rallies or anything else involving cars and competition ...

When (if!) LFS ever branches out from its racing focus and becomes an all-encompassing "performance driving" simulator you might see a drift lesson (burnout lesson, stunt driving lesson, etc), but don't hold your breath. Who's this "you" that you're asking to make the drift lesson optional anyway? There are only 2 guys that code this sim. LFS isn't run by democracy (even if it was, I'd bet you'd still see no drift lessons).

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I would construct a doomsday device so ingenious, so fiendishly destructive that the governments of the world would have no choice to but to immediately pay me ONE MILLION POUNDS or face the total destruction of their pitiful little blue planet.

Muaa-ha, ha, ha.

Ha.

Ar, ye olde Fender Stratocaster :up: Solid dependable axe, that. Wish I could hear how it sounds but alas, work PC is sans audio (IT punks). Love that natural finish though, very nice looking weapon.

People drink Bud when there's no moonshine. With either drink, the idea is simply to get shit-faced so flavour is irrelevant

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I can't, for the life of me, understand why the churches try to lure people into their cults. Isn't that against the religion?

It's a central tenet of some cults that you spread the word and get bums on seats (Jehovah's Witnesses & Mormons knocking on my bloody door at 8 on a Saturday morning, for example - guess they didn't see the goat's head nailed to it). All over the third world, where in some places you can easily get people to come to church by just offering to feed them, are various brands of missionaries still doing "god's work" and spreading the word like it's the year 1700 (some make the retarded mistake of trying to get converts in places like Afghanistan and end up paying for it in blood). When I was younger and "between careers" I was in a state-sponsored job-hunting program which involved some volunteer work for what I thought was a normal, respectable charity. Turned out most of this volunteer work involved folding and addressing mailouts for an evangelical christian organisation (Assemblies of God, some pentecostal faith-healing tribe, quite powerful too). I had a look through some of their "literature" to find an article headed "How To Be An Effective Soul-Winner". Needless to say I didn't take kindly to being exploited by some cult on the request of my own government.

Anyway, "soul-winner"? What were these people on? How many of them are there and what approximate yield should my tac-nuke be to destroy them all?

Another reason it's no surprise is products like this: camouflage bible. Yes, that's what it says. So, when you're hunkered down in your hide, protecting the fatherland and prayin' for that big ol ten-point buck to wander in front of your scope, the commie snipers don't pick you out by spotting your big red Gideon's

I used to believe, so I understand why people do. I'd always questioned some of the things I was told though (privately, for the most part). At 15 I started to question it properly until I realised that, for me, religion was unnecessay and irrelevant. But that's just me, and my problem isn't with people who choose to believe. It's with people who behave as if religious belief isn't or shouldn't be a matter of choice and seek to impose it on everybody around them by any means necessary, including bribing children with free games (and other less inocuous methods). I believe people should always be free to work out for themselves whether to subscribe to a faith system, instead of parents/community/school etc. telling children they're Muslim/Christian/Moonbat as soon as they're born and leaving them absolutely no say in the matter.

Speaking of camo bibles: Pentagon sued over mandatory Christianity

Quote :

A military watchdog organization filed a lawsuit in federal court Tuesday against the Pentagon, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, and a US Army major, on behalf of an Army soldier stationed in Iraq. The suit charges the Pentagon with widespread constitutional violations by allegedly trying to force the soldier to embrace evangelical Christianity and then retaliating against him when he refused.

The complaint charges that [the soldier] has been forced to "submit to a religious test as a qualification to his post as a soldier in the United States Army," a violation of Article VI, Clause 3 of the Constitution.

Thanks for putting your arse on the line to serve your country, now pray or it's the brig!
Nice :zombie:

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No surprises here, really. It's never been above religionists to use bribery (the whole "heaven" thing for example) or a relaxation of their supposed inflexible gods-given morality to attract new members A lot of churches and religious organisations forbid gambling (eg the Salvos) but many others hold raffles and bingo nights to keep people coming. Religious types are always the first to protest at the newest violent games, but here's a cult drawing young people in with free FPS sessions. Come for the kill, stay for the sermon!

This reveals that the less relevant religion becomes, the more desperate (or some might say "inventive") various cults get to recruit young people. They know full well that getting people while they're young and credulous is the only way to keep a cult afloat. It also reveals that marketing strategy has to follow the first law of nature - evolve or die out - regardless of what the product is.

Hope I was on your "they will reply" list Racer If not - surprise!

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Hogan's ghost! I got a flamin' out of Hank!

Strewth Kev, flamin' oath ya did! There's more that came from if ya play ya flamin' cards right.

Unions for the flamin' win alright.

People bitch unions out a lot (and lord knows there was an era in this country where they were practically the mafia, certainly not the case now) but all in all, if it wasn't for labour organisations, we'd still be working 12-hour days, six days a week for bugger all pay in dangerous, unhealthy third-world conditions and getting laughed by fat bastards in silk top hats.

Floyd PWN :up:

I must agree with Mike though. Anywhere around the waistline is a classic "girl spot" (i.e. small/not too naughty/easy to hide from mum) and a total cop out for a dude. I'm thinking of the flower tatt my wife's got on her left hip - ten years and her mum STILL doesn't know its there , Jennifer Aniston's ankh which is below left of her navel, my friend's little octopus which is on her back, just above her beltline and pretty much every other female star and friend of mine whose tatt locations I'm aware of Yes I'm a perv and don't tell me you aren't.

The Dark Side prism across the shoulders would be a sweet tatt though - although any tatts I get would be monochrome, so I wouldn't pick the prism. I'd go with the marching hammer logo from The Wall in lovely black
Average pic, I know.

And maybe crop circles. Crop circles rule. And maybe Speed Racer Ooh and a turtle.

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