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Quote from three_jump :

You have to be careful with the tires and can have different strategies. Nothing wrong with that.

That's an oxymoron.

You HAVE to be careful with your tyres. yet can have different strategies? Can't one be aggressive on the tyres? Can't someone be medium aggressive with the tyres? NO, everyone has to do the same bloody strategy, and drive the same way. We even have Hamilton driving like Button. What the flying f*&k is THAT ABOUT?

Granted, we occasionally get 2 stop VS 3 stop but they always play out in a very very similar way. If it's a 3 stop it's all about the undercut and if it's a two stop it's all about whether you have any tyre left for the last 5 laps. Races are excruciatingly predictable once you have the numbers in front of you. That's really a consequence of spec rubber though. There's very little 'dynamic'.

I can't say I've watch a properly good 'real' battle in F1 for a long time. Thankfully I had some half decent WSK racing to watch today.

Though having said all that, I completely understand why there has been regulatory changes(it's a business first and foremost), I just don't like them. I can understand why the general public won't give two shits. Most of the general public think F1 represents the pinnacle of driving talent ffs, they'll believe and go along with anything.

I think the 'racing' is shit. DRS, undercut, shit tyres etc... it's all bollocks. Not once have I watched a DRS overtake and been on the edge of my seat. I'd rather nothing than that because as a spectator you're being patronised. You're expected to think it's real. shhheetttiiiieee

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

That's very nice but you forgot that Button's race was ruined in Malaysia and finished 14th... Button was clearly faster in Australia and in China as well. 2 points difference with 2 ruined races out of 3, is really not bad.

Button drove into Narain. In effect he did 'a Hamilton'. Taking a risk when he didn't have to.

Lewis is much more risk averse this year, and has stated his intent. No risks.. bring it home. Don't overwork the car...just bring it home in one piece. And that approach HAS worked over the first 3 races. He leads the championship.FACT

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

Damn, poor Button... It was good to see him pwning Hamilton so far.

01 Lewis Hamilton 45
02 Jenson Button 43
03 Fernando Alonso 37
04 Mark Webber 36
05 Sebastian Vettel 28
06 Nico Rosberg 25
07 Sergio Perez 22
08 Kimi Räikkönen 16
09 Bruno Senna 14
10 Kamui Kobayashi 9

You can see Hamilton is far more cautious this year. Slow and steady wins the race... if it is a bit boring

Quote from Yuri Laszlo :

You forget that Williams did give him a good car in 2009, for the early part of the season at least, and what did he do with it?

Are you saying that car was capable of poles and wins against the Brawn?

Quote from Yuri Laszlo :

Yes, he showed how consistent he is by not scoring a poleposition for 109 consecutive races.

Obviously you haven't followed F1 very closely. If Vettel's current form proves anything, is that give a good driver the right car and they'll score poles. Give them an average one and they won't. Rosberg has had very few opportunities for pole position. Now he has the car, he's taken it.

Just like the ol' days with Ham and Ros locking out the front row (pre-penalty). Team MBM ftw

I sucked before the update, and I suck after. No change for me

Run, die, run a bit more, and then die... run, kill someone.. die... run die...

bloody stupid rule.

Quote from N I K I :

In other news Susie Stodartt, now Wolff becomes Williams F1 development driver. What does that mean for Bottas? They say Susie will attend races in upcoming months for them and I haven't seen any mention of Bottas anywhere.

Susie is wife to one of the William's team owners. So make of that what you will. That's F1 chaps!

The main problem with CRT is they aren't allowed to be good. If a team gets it right, they will lose CRT status. There's no way on earth Honda/Yamaha will let some CRT team compete with them while maintaining status as a CRT outfit. The weird committee thing that judges whether a CRT outfit is CRT will have to 'upgrade' them.

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Who decides which teams are CRT entries and which teams are running factory prototypes?

The teams have to apply to enter as a Claiming Rule Team to IRTA, who evaluate entries to the Grand Prix grid in all classes on their experience and suitability. An application as a CRT has to be judged by the Grand Prix Commission, MotoGP's rule-making body which consists of the MSMA (representing the manufacturers), IRTA (representing the teams), Dorna (representing the series organizer) and the FIM (representing the sanctioning body and international federation). All four members of the GPC have to agree unanimously to accept a team as a CRT entry, with no dissent.

How does the GPC decide whether an entry is a CRT or not?

This is probably both the hardest and the easiest question to answer. The answer is probably best summed up by US Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, when called upon to judge whether the French film "Les Amants" was pornography or not. Hard-core pornography was impossible to define, Stewart said, "but I know it when I see it."

Thus it is with Claiming Rule Teams. The GPC will assess whether they believe a team has backing from a factory, and will be racing on machinery developed, managed and supplied by a manufacturer, rather than machinery managed by the private team itself. The decision will be based not so much on the bikes being raced, as the support and financing of the bikes.

The ambiguity of what a CRT actually is annoying too. I still today struggle to tell someone what a CRT actually is. I can just about make sense of it in my brain, but try and tell any old punter what CRT is. They are literally grid-fillers and if we are all honest did nothing to improve the show other than provide a nice picture for the start grid.

MotoGP does need to decrease costs and build a decent grid full of variety, but running a two-tier system isn't going to fix inherent problems. Dorma know without Simoncelli (RIP) or Rossi at the front there is no show, no atmosphere and more importantly... no viewers.

I thought the Motogp race was pretty bog standard. Without Stoner getting arm pump it was a pretty predictable affair. Pretty much a repeat of several races we saw last year. the 1000cc bikes aren't any more exciting to watch either, not much different to 800cc. viva la electronics

CRTs don't add anything and the whole show is desperately lacking some theatre. Marco was going to be that extra X factor we needed, but tragically it will never be the case. Rossi hasnt got a hope in hell's chance of being anywhere near the front. The year is one of hardcore MotoGP fans, for everyone else it's going to be one big switch-off. Dorma know that too and are worried about it.

Going back to CRT. Still can't quite grasp the concept. You are a CRT team until a comittee decides you're a full factory outfit? yuuucckkkk

Won't be tuning in this year. Sammmeee ollldd ZZZzzz...

But Ianone in MotoGp??? I#d watch that

She might be real, but the DM obviously understand the complete nuttiness of the whole thing and are playing everyone for fools. I think they just enjoy making a mockery of folks on Twitter who actually fell for the whole thing.

The DM are expert trollers.. and that goes for most of the paper

She is brilliant. The DM are laughing all the way to the bank with this one.

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Samantha Brick and the Daily Mail I salute you, absolutely superb work.

Trending on twitter for three days straight, and million of tweets. Haha. Beautiful work. Sets a new standard.

Schumacher wasn't being paid millions to demonstrate his talent. He would be failing at his job if he did anything else other than winning.

Maybe in today's internet age Schumacher's actions may not be seen as something modern teams would sign up to. Branding/sponsorship isn't ALL about pure winning. But when Schumacher was racing it was very different. His talent was his ruthless nature.

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Schumacher is in his mid-40s and still racing F1. On top of that his ego isn't so large that he won't still go back to karting and race with the 'locals'. He even gets beat, but that doesn't bother him. I would consider Schumacher as one of the drivers with the least ego. Put his reputation on the line his his mid-40s. Not many other drivers would do that.

Quote from tristancliffe :

But at least he does it in relative privacy, rather than through the media, and he doesn't sulk for two years each time either, unlike a certain British driver.

I am watching a pretty sulky and moany Vettel right now who seems to be prone to making a fair few mistakes all in public view.

It also has to be considered with the much improved driver training programs as well as the decrease is madness of driving an F1 car, modern pay-drivers can easily compete with a decent driver.

So if you're super-talented it still is not guarantee to beating a rich less talented driver

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Troll Hunter was good as well

Quote from JazzOn :

He does not and its not what Vettel did... he was very tight, indeed, but it would have worked out, if narain wouldn't had done what he did.

PS. and thas all i'm saying

bye

Yes, had Narain had eyes on the back of his head, and complete awares of where each car is on track at all times, and had he not gone wide and got water on his slick tyres he wouldn't have done what he did.

Same could said for Seb. He isn't totally blameless. He made an error, so did Narain.

Quote from JazzOn :

Ah, thats whre the truth lies? It was an act of defiance? And now say again that it was not a penalty woth

Are you being serious? It was an act of defiance?

I've never read so much rubbish in all more life. yes HRT/Narain want to spend thousands on new wings every other race to be defiant.

Quote from JazzOn :

@Intrepid, Vettel was in a race - Narain was not.

Bollocks! HRT are as much in the race as anyone else. He can't drive around at 60kph constantly looking in his mirrors. A number of retirements could lead to a lucky 10th place for one of the lower teams which is worth millions, so yes they are very much in the race.

He made a tiny error, as did Vettel and that's that.