Lets not forget Sutil who just chopped right in front of Pastor smashing his wing to pieces. Pastor made a big mistake but so did Sutil. I think the wings are so ****ing stupidly wide at the front though.

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You complain about left wing thinking - and then choose to move to a left wing strong hold? Admittedly it is one of the nicest, richest, healthiest countries in the world - but that's what you get for embracing a combination of left wing policies and long term strategic thinking rather than the short termism we practice here.

Norway has a plentiful amount of this stuff called......... oil. That dirty stuff we pump into the atmosphere satisfying the world's capitalist hunger. and around and around and around we go.

And would I not be correct in saying the centre-right party of Norway has been leading the polls for several months now... so happy the Norwegions are with the left right now

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1979, as a result of leftist unions, the poor had no bread.... no power....and the dead were left unburied....

Point being anyone can find any left or right political ideology to blame whenever it suits them.

The 'youth' tend to blame the right... the older generation blame the left... and around we go.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Socially and economically critical services should not be given to the private sector to milk for profits. Competition in these sectors does not exist (not that cartels wouldn't form anyway) and they are too important to be left to private individuals.

They are too important to be left to public sector unions either.



two sides.... same coin.

Quote from Becky Rose :

The privatisation of the profitable sectors of public services is a right wing policy. The left wing approach would keep both the profit making and cost burdens nationalised.

Classic examples are the railways, sold off in the 90's? They now cost the government 4 times to run even when allowing for inflation. (Thatcher)

Selling off the PCT's which distribute funds from central government, so that 40% of the governments funding now goes straight into private pockets - replacing the small PCT's which where not a huge cost burden. (Cameron)

Selling off council houses at discounted prices and then renting houses from the private sector. (Thatcher)

Selling off the Royal Mail the moment it goes into profit. (Cameron)

There are no examples of the left wing doing this, because they created most of the above services and havn't had power since. The remains of our institutions are simply the things left over from Atlee that don't yet look attractive to the private sector.

The Royal Mail? Profit? No, the Royal Mail subsidies the spam industry, which basically cuts down a shit load of trees to send millions of people pointless shit. Without that there would be no profit (which is highly questionable anyway). Sooner that's sold off the better.

My point is that it is as easy to blame right-wing policies as it is left-wing. People just pick and choose depending on their viewpoint. It gets tiresome after a while, don't even know why I am even commenting haha

Last time I checked we had a free at point of service national healthcare system, we have a rather large welfare state, we have a central bank with control over a fiat currency, state education etc.... We are a pretty liberal leftist state as much as a right-wing one. Unless you think the amount of debt we've ratcheted up is imaginary. the left like to pretend that state enforced 'compassion' will solve things... it won't... it'll probably just make a bad situation worse. I am of a right-wing persuasion I am probably more compassionate towards life than any of you mother****ers

Anything who just singularly blames 'the right' has probably spent too much time doing GCSE Sociology.

It exploitation of both right AND left wing values that have left us in the state. The same old privatise the profits and socialise the losses.

I happen to think that we aren't in THAT bad a state when you compare to other shitholes around the world.

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Hamilton won't lead into T1. The Mercedes will overheat its tyres before he lines up for the grid. Chilton for the win.

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Webber and his KERS problems again. What a joke... Well done, Hamilton, Vettel's face was priceless at the end.

Weather will be on Lotus' side, it will be epic hot tomorrow, hopefully it works out for them.

I can see the Merc's tyres melting before they've even finished the rolling lap.

I guess it's pretty lucky the opposition don't have Hamilton in a competitive/team otherwise the lap times between him and the rest could get a bit silly

Selling electric car racing to the public, for the next decade or so, is going to be very very difficult. Future generations will be easier of course, but for those who have been brought on with 100+db racing cars its going to be very hard.

Watching the F1 at Silverstone the other day I was struck by how tame they all looked. Take away the noise (which when you arrive at the circuit does get you excited) and you're left with quite an uninteresting sceptical unless you are really into the detail of driving. The noise made ALL the difference... and that's just pretty shit V8s

Couple of snaps from today's tetsing









Nothing amazing to report other than the RBR is ****ing incredible.

I think we all have a soft-spot for our first car.

He took that around whilton mill kart track a few years ago. by all accounts that accident was inevitable at some point.

The driver's championship is a manufacturers championship in all but name really.

Thanks Captain Obvious

2000 Formula A World Cup (not ... with World Championship) inc Lewis Hamilton, Mike Conway, Robert Kubica and Nico Rosberg

2000 Formula Super A World Cup inc Kovalainen and Luizzi

Joining this late, but I do know Singapore was a manufacturing fault on Hamilton's gearbox. He is no harder on components than anyone else. Just terribly unlucky.

If Pirelli know teams are using their tyres in a dangerous fashion then quite simply they should refuse to supply them. If Pirelli have knowledge of a clear and present danger in mis-use of their product resulting in catastrophic failure then they should have taken action and informed the FIA who could have quickly outlawed the mis-use of the tyres, namely running the rears the wrong way around. I don't think they can escape responsibility.

... or they should construct decent bloody tyres so teams are forced to explore 'extreme' set up options.

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Well, Bridgestone never had this problem.....

It's almost the equivalent of Renault saying to RedBull "your engine blew up because you were running it to 18,000rpm, really you should keep it below 15,000rpm for maximum reliability"

You can't have an F1 tyre manufacturer seriously saying the tyre explodes because the teams are exploring pretty reasonable setup procedures on a normal track. And why say it now, why not before? All the cars obviously have varying geometry and set up, yet still suffered the same problem.

Vettel's race to lose.

Susanne Sundfor is ****ing incredible live. Best singer I've ever heard live (Hoxton 2013). Can't beat a bit of Rage Against the Machine live too (Wembley 2001 and Finsbury 2010).

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I'd rather F1 sounded like a Vitamix to be perfectly honest!

http://www.renaultsport.com/Co ... e-noise,2630.html?lang=fr



I guess the V8s were never that spectacular, but that sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well it's Jan Charouz, he's not exactly Walter Wröhl when it comes to car control.

And Al, when you 'jack' a kart it helps it to turn on the spot because you lift the inside rear wheel, it doesn't induce understeer like it does in a car. Surely you'd know this?

You hit full lock and then lean on the outside wheel. You use the understeer to induce the jacking effect. it's a bit backward I know. It was mainly used in classes with low-grip wet tyres as you can't get the front to load enough.

It's something you do in karting, and some drivers keep it on into cars. It's not always the ultimate way to maximise speed, but it helps scrub speed and jack the kart.