It seems most pieces of big software are released buggy these days ... anyway, I'm going to give it a twirl next week

Of course S2 users can (when its updated) use Tweak to make the XRG drive like the XRT

ROFL "Fiat Tipo", very good

Thanks for the feedback, guys I fancy trying something where I can weave through traffic, and just follow my nose ...

Quote from 96 GTS :

... once you reach champion level and unlock the hardcore physics, it actually feels pretty good.

How much work does it take to do that?

As for bugs, guess I'll take my chances; I've enjoyed some very buggy games (hmmm, Atari, lol). On my (laptop) rig I'll just be running it at 800x600 with everything off ... eye candy can wait till I get my next full size rig

I did read part of the big thread, but mostly saw the guys running Beta comparing notes

Quote from Bob Smith :

I still find it quite odd there are twice as many demo users online as there are licensed.

Just think of it as twice as many lazy freeloaders as fine upstanding sim racers

When getting home from work I often fancy just having a virtual drive to unwind ... right now Test Drive Unlimited is looking appealing, but hows the driving experience?

On the TDU forums some people have said its halfway between sim and arcade handling (about right for what I'd like when not playing LFS), but there's problems when you change elevation (?)

I'd appreciate you views!

Quote from [RCG]Boosted :

do the training missions, they are a good start

Ditto that, then point yourself at STCC1a/b, they really help improve your racing technique

There's a small inclined oval on Fern Bay, too.

+1, so many people want more tracks, but there's so much that can be done with whats there already

Anyone feeling a need to roam should use something that was designed for it, TDU and the GTA series fit the bill very well

Quote from squidhead :

Id go for one if it was 2 times bigger

Twice as big would work too, then you could get two cars on a corner

100% agreed, I gave up watching after Nextel took over, apart from the occasional race highlights ... but it was best when they had to build the cars using production car bodies. It used to be unpolished, tough, fast racing, which was fantastic.

I gave it a twirl, its smaller than it looked in the screenies ... if the dimensions were maybe 30% greater it would be about right for LFS, I recon.

Racer still has a looong way to go, but its great to see an open source racer thats getting community input

If you have an XBox, Forza is well worth a spin

Rockclan - good sketches! Unfortunately few of them are similar to real-world cars. These resemble some of their traits though:



'32 Ford style stock car



Morgan Aero 8

Quote from Jamexing :

Note the FWD was setup JUST like the FXO. BIG tires front and rear.

Nope, the FWD one had skinny tyres at the rear, and the RWD one had the trans on the back axle. Perhaps you should go read the complete article ... which funily enough has been on my website for a while now The author openly states that he is not a racecar driver, therefore you get an unbiased opinion of the differences.

Quote from GHOSTRACER1 :

Richards point about the too easy catching is true.I think most of you should learn to drift a car IRL before talking on this forum.

I've not drifted IRL, but I've spun / slid / done a power slide in many cars; the slower cars in LFS feel about right I recon.

Remember that most cars made for 'drifting' have honking great alloys with rubber band tyres - that means when you loose it, it goes big time; back in the real world where cars have 50mm or greater sidewalls and 205mm or less width of tread (ie. where tyres cost less than £100 each, and are similar to those simulated on the slower cars in LFS), they are much easier to handle when sliding.

If course anyone that drives real cars would know that distinction ...

Quote from GHOSTRACER1 :

But i let you alone in your little simwar since the only community who acts like these are from LFS and that s why most of the simmers don t want to hear one word about LFS,because of the childish community.

Compared to which other computer game forums are they more childish? Computer games by their nature attract younger people so it falls logically that the communities that surround them are inherrently childish

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Quote from frokki :

Locking the brakes can extend the slide without increasing the drifting angle. This technique can be helpful if you misjudge the turn-in point and/or -speed and see that you will apex too early.

Thanks for clearing that up

Quote from March Hare :

It seems that hard core racers don't want to change anything. They just want to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again.

There's plenty of new things that can be done without resorting to derv powered cars ...

Quote from joen :

As much as you wonder why I want it removed, I wonder why you would be against removing it.

I'm not against removing it, this just ranks alongside the skin with blood splatters - complaining about other people's taste (or lack thereof). Easiest solution that would please both camps would be to disallow their use in single-seaters.

Super Sprint, Supercars, Super Offroad, Super Skidmarks - an evolution of the same basic idea, all great.

Frogger, Ranarama, Lotus Turbo Challenge, Starquake, Gauntlet, Hard Drivin', Pacworld, Road Blasters, Outrun, Doom 1 ... probably a bunch more if I start thinking about it!

Quote from duke_toaster :

It looks unreservedly stupid when someone is driving a Formula Renault when not wearing a helmet.

So these would be drifter Formula Renault drivers with Fast & Furious skins too I guess?

I was hitting the top of 2nd, but not enough to warrant shifting ... I'm using the ratios from the 'easy race' setups, but with a slightly shorter final drive ratio

Does it really matter? Surely its up to someone weather they use 'em or not ... talk about control freaks, are you going to be vetting skins, too?

Quote from FL!P :

Stereotypes again. I'm sure there are lots of big manly hairy men with muscles that are gay.

I never said there wasn't, try reading my post again

Just imagine the chaos of 24 people trying drift randomly around that, lol. Looks like great fun

How is Racer these days? Last time I tried it it was barely driveable

Last edited by JamesK, Tue 3 Apr 2007, 12:13.