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JazzOn
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Quote from Shotglass :am i the only one whos having issues with the cars refusing to step back in line after a slide? it feels somwhat like the physics switch to a slide mode and the back will just keep swining back and forth until youve slowed down a lot sometimes

You don't have the silly slide effect and the likes on, and what wheel do you use?
I have no reference as i've never drifted or driven a car on the limit IRL, but plain 90% ffb (100 windows) feels just fine.
JazzOn
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People that drive it very often, can very easily.

Imo, tracks like the Nordschleife and Bathurst are a no-brainer, and they're not much more "one-line" that some others. The close scenery provides a great sense of speed. Coupled with interesting and challenging corners in a simulator thats actually fun to drive - must have.
JazzOn
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Quote from undertaker00 :thats great

Not really, but its nice that something like this will be implemented. The picture is WIP, but still, if its dust it would be spread rather homogeneous than this patchy.
JazzOn
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wasn't the 101% effect setting a bypass for driver issues of the past. Try 100% just for the sake of it.
JazzOn
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Quote from DeKo :
The 7850 might not be the whole issue either

It might as well. AMD had recently a lot of issues on that subject, afaik.

Quote :As Kars says, even with high framerates there is still lag, it might only be visual and not input

Most might have seen it, but i'll leave this here for the sake of it where Niels did a demonstration the issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPMknDLLXC0

Quote :I can't imagine playing this game at 50fps.

Just wanna note that 50fps definitely is no fun; just better than 40 xD
JazzOn
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Quote from DeKo : 7850 clearly isn't pulling it's weight

Sounds like its broken / cloaked with dust? I have a gtx460 and have 50fps min, but usually 60-70
JazzOn
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doesnt load for me either but did before. Here it is embedded and stil readable http://www.virtualr.net/fanate-csr-elite-wheel-benchmarks
JazzOn
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Dont quote me as im not too deep into the subject but look around once in a while since sooner or later i'll have to upgrade as well.

Afaik, the i7 supports hyperthreading which makes it an theoretical 8-core. I guess its a bit more futureproof and depending on the price it might be worth it, but generally you wont see much difference if programs dont use more than 4 cores, like most games atm. But more cores is the direction game developement is evolving. Ircc, BF4 for example, makes good use of more cores.
JazzOn
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Quote from Boris Lozac :One of the best doesn't cut it, as there's like 3 proper sims on the market Gotta put some cash on my internet card asap..

Yeah, well, i still consider LFS one of the best , but regardless, there are 1 or 2 more.

However, considering the price, it really is a no-brainer. Personally i'm not so happy with the sounds as there is this kind of echo present, especially in the TV cams, but that might change hopefully.

Driving feels already very nice and it runs pretty well.
JazzOn
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Quote from chanoman315 :So is it better than nK?

Yes, but it's obviously not perfect. Certainly one of the best that is available atm. Thats for sure.
JazzOn
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Go to: carskins section https://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=29

go: search this forum (upper right area) put alonso, check show post - tada 5th result is the regular helmet done by Kiste
JazzOn
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How about this very subforum? Its filled with bodykits, templates and wireframes

Theres even a sticky "skin templates" https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=148
JazzOn
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Quote from sinbad :The water looks fantastic

It looks good, but this looks fantastic ^^

http://youtu.be/yKkc4IoMb70?t=7m27s
JazzOn
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Quote from Taavi(EST) :While I also loved the driving physics in IV, but guys, what the actual hell is wrong with you? We all played this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... e=player_detailpage#t=42
And we all loved the game.

As far as I can tell, the car handling in V is a lot more varied when it comes to vehicle types. Sports cars going over curbs WILL look stupid in any physical scenario, in real life the suspension would just collapse on any sports car when you're going over a ~15cm curb

No, i didn't liked it xD
What Vice City made so great, was the setting, music and teh references. The driving wasn't that fun.

However, from what i understand and seeing videos, the issue isn't the suspension, but cars just wont break loose taking soem of the fun away from driving. Not just sportscars, but ordinary stationwagons drive like on rails.

Less wobbling is something i very much welcome.

Quote from nathan246 :I'm sorry, I'm just trying to understand what you wrote. Still, thanks for making my statement true.

What more are you trying to understand? Your statement, which really is more whining because soemone said something negative about your precious, wasn't, and still isn't, true.
JazzOn
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Quote from nathan246 :Wow, talk about an overreaction...I guess I should do the same and just forget about a game that I've been waiting for nearly 2 years because the driving physics look bad. I'm most certain that they'll be fine.

The only one that is over reacting is you. You're ona forum of people that appreciate good physics. If the drving in a game, that always was about driving, is not of interest for you, then fine. Nobody was out to destroy your little perfect world.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
While i don't think its the holy grail and LFS has probably more potential judging by the way a car "sits" on the track, it certainly is one of the best sims. Over hyped or not, not supporting it, especially when throwing hundreds at iRacing, is just wrong and doesn't bring the genre any further!
JazzOn
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Quote from Hyperactive :But the time has passed the point.[...]Everything out there is better.

There are definitely people who still have hope, especially since the latest AC "impression". AC might be the next best thing; the car models are amazing, graphics are up to date... its in every aspect up to date, but there is no reason LFS can't be as good.

Fact is, we don't know what they've worked on. Granted, the chances are they haven't accomplished much, but there is always the possibility they can update it and be on-par with the likes of AC, iRacing, rFactor, Raceroom Experience, or whatever.

LFS is still unique in the way it simulates (afaict). Its a raw simulation, while others try to cut corners in different (and essential) aspects

So, yeah, there is still hope, even though, it has a very bitter taste to it.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Quote from Keling :I thought the CSW was fine?

I don't think its to be taken seriously. I used to have a Fanatec ages ago for forza1. It was a piece of crap, but the CSW is probably the best you can get.
JazzOn
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Quote from PMD9409 :Just wanted to say that car in the video isn't the GT2 spec version. The one in AC is from 2011 it seems. This is the only decent video I can find of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFcEZlW2Jcw

Right, i've overlooked that; watched this video first too and compared my impression, but then decided for the Monza one.

What the difference seems to me is that, driving on the straight, it kinda floats, while the real car is really shaken up and bumping extremely. First i thought the head camera is what looks so wobbly, but really, it seems the whole car is. Maybe its the setup and it has a similar issue like LFS, where you can set extreme soft suspension without it hitting the chassis.

Same with the understeering; it seems kinda snappy from my uneducated and clueless pOV. I'd assume he'd either understeers and he gets off course massively or could only barely keep the line
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JazzOn
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Do you mean you use the hood view or just not the steeringwheel and a fixed camera? I think most people do it like that.

LFS does it kinda great. It's pretty much directly linked to the suspension/forces, although a limit would be useful to limit the distance the head moves. I do use a tiny bit of it, just enough it doesn't go "out of bounds"
JazzOn
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Quote from BlueFlame :How is this funny? It's clearly two guys pretending to be genuinely angry n shit and it's really awkward and painful to listen to this fakeness.

Yeah, obviously their act, but i think here he was really pissed.

This is hilarious (and painful):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlVtNXLMmA
JazzOn
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Quote from Matrixi :Just terrible cockpit camera movement and derpy shift animation as far as I can see.

Besides that it looks kinda extremely grippy and then extremely understeering, the cockpit camera is the main issue, or the physics... It doesn't look realistic when compared to this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2smVTiyRpjo

E: yeah i'm slow, lol
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JazzOn
S2 licensed
way to rub salt in the wounds
JazzOn
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :
Although I do worry by the press coverage that it's gotten that some people are overselling it's realism, and will set a faux standard in what "real physics" actually feel like.

Oh, right, and you're definitely not alone with these concerns. You know faboys will be fanboys (GT5 is supposedly the best ever), but at least it's trending positively having more than the usual suspects, striving to be in-depth, can only be beneficial.
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