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pointless request section is pointless, huh? :clapclap:

I w a n t t h e n e w o n e

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I hope he does update them. Its a nice pack.

What's nice about it when it's so useless?

It's quite the opposite - totally not nice

naw, JJ is just whoring for some attention

Yea, the physics in simulation mode is a lot of fun, tho a bit frustrating for me with KB

Jibber, so you say GTA is like rtractor ? Thats not fair

But seriously, GTA has more of a comic style to it and that's what makes it funnier. Alone how the cars wobble around going over a bump or through corners, wherby Mafia has a more "serious" behavior, without being "stuck-up".

The shooting is a lot different too, just like in the first one.

PS: i'm not really informed, but maybe someone knows if there will be multiplayer modes or online/co-op missions?

E: nvm, no multiplayer.

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"We're not doing multiplayer... but downloadable content is something we're definitely looking at. All games seem to have it nowadays. We're not ready to talk about it right now, but I definitely won't close the door on downloadable content. Mafia is all about this single-player, cinematic experience, like watching a movie. Multiplayer just didn't feel right. At 2K, at a higher level, we certainly believe that if we're going to do something we're going to do it properly. We don't want to do a half-assed job on something".

E2: or it's supposed to be a surprise.

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Although we've heard about Mafia 2 having leaderboards, we have now found code that suggests there's an entire mp game included.

Source

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Of course it's a different feel. The city in GTA is one of todays, with huge skyscrapers, 4-lane city roads, crack-junkies running around, many different sportscars, helicopters, cellphones, over-population (xD). simply things that were not present in the 50's.

Mafia II is awesome for what it is and the story hopefully will be as epic as the first one.

BTW, someone got the wheel working? Mine (g25) doesnt get recognised at all.

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It's difficult for me to make sense of some of your English.

Quote from JazzOn :

As for revenge wrecks, well, i don't know any from the top of my head, I don't and havn't seen all races in history, but something like this is indeed not acceptable. But no-one got wrecked in the MSC/BAR situation!?

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If a person is clearly dangerous it should be that person who should be punished, not the person or people he is dangerous towards.

Racing is dangerous.

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Track safety has definitely improved, yes. Are people still in danger when cars fly into the air because they touch? Yes. So, let's try and limit the number of flying cars (and not through sheer luck, through action).

so you suggest there should be a rule that says x-amout distance between cars need to be kept, and i say, it will make the whole "show" less attractive for the viewer and less exciting for the driver. In other words F1 may die. (or do you mean even every racing series?)

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It really didn't sound like Barrichello knew what Schumacher was doing. If one driver can't know what his competitors are likely to do (i.e. within regulations) then how can you say they know what they are doing (collectively).

Well, i guess i'm wrong about Bar and he does not know what he is doing. Time for his retirement then.

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Clarify the situation, make things more open to all teams. We still have some people in the paddock saying Schumacher was right, others saying he was wrong. They're both arguing from the same "rulebook". How can that be? Are the rules unclear or open to interpretation? Fix them, clarify things...

What's open for interpretation? They did not touch and none gone off-track. Again, what's left is speculation and "maybe's"

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Rules are only ridiculous when they do nothing to improve the sport (whether that's driver/fan safety, on track action etc). Clarifying driver conduct rules so the driver's know what they can and can't do increases driver and fan safety and should make the on track action cleaner and lead to less post-race penalties (which people generally don't like).

Right and that's what i'm saying. It gotten so far which is fine, but if you damp it more it will lose the interesst of the audience.


However, you have your opinion and i have mine. I guess we can agree to disagree.

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I notice you're conveniently skipping over a clear revenge wrecking incident by one of the greatest drivers in the history of motorsport. That's OK, just thought I'd point it out.

i already said i don't think its ok!

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Closed cockpits aren't a solution to the problem. Not only does covering the wheels go against the "open wheel racing" tag, but it would only shift the problem. Now instead of tyres touching and cars going flying you have cars touching and bodywork/steering/suspension/wheel/tyre damage. It's shifting the problem slightly rather than trying to address the root cause.

It was sarcasm... OW have a certain risk. If one doesn't like it he should leave, don't you think?
What would be your suggestion to make things "safer"?

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I don't understand this. I'm talking about real life, where cars touching (and particularly tyres touching in open wheel series) have caused many accidents where one or more cars have left the ground. Gilles Villeneuve, for example, killed 2 people and injured 10 when he clipped Ronnie Peterson's car in the 1977 Japanese GP. Obviously we've also seen what can happen with the recent Webber crash.

We have 2010 not 1977... things have changed, Tracks got safer...

Webber is stupid and drove into the back of a backmarker (if you mean that incedent) - punish him.

MSC/BAR did not touch, because they know what they are doing.. rest is speculations and assumptions.

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Where did I say I want to rule everything in? I think there should be a clear framework for driving conduct where everyone can understand exactly what is allowed and exactly what isn't. Punishments for offences must also be clearly set out, so drivers know what to expect if they breach the rules.

He got a penalty. What's left?

All i'm saying is what i already said. At some point rules are getting ridiculous.

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Urgh, back to this again. Why is the fact that no-one was injured and no damage was done justification for Schumacher's driving? If Barrichello had clipped Schumacher's tyre, flown into the air and landed 150 metres down the track would you be defending Schumacher's driving? Is it really as simple as that for you?



Sure, they are professionals and sure they know each other to an extent. What I'm saying is that when they're side-by-side down the main straight and Barrichello is within a foot (just to please Tristan) of collecting the pit wall in a big way they cannot know what each other is thinking. That's why you need to have a well-defined framework of what is and what isn't acceptable.

1st, ok make close cockpits and make a cover around the tires. What happens when tires touch has been seen. Do we talk about RL or LFS??

2nd, you seem to want to rule everthing in, which, at some point, gets ridiculous. The rules are just fine now and MSC didn't break them.

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Yeah, that's why there are no crashes ever in professional racing? No rage attacks? No revenge wrecking?

Well accidents happens, may it be a missunderstanding or mechanical failure. As a racing driver you are aware of it or better leave that sport.

As for revenge wrecks, well, i don't know any from the top of my head, I don't and havn't seen all races in history, but something like this is indeed not acceptable. But no-one got wrecked in the MSC/BAR situation!?

PS. of course he can not know, but he can guess or look. It's not like they don't know eachother... Unlike some, i think MSC is sane (and it showed as he made space as soon as hes been passed/or the car is alongside.. unlike webber who just keeps his line and waits for the accident, thats what i call rather insane). Again, they are proffessionals and not amatuers.

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just that everyone involved was lucky. What about track safety? If you have trees lining a circuit and a driver spins off and misses a tree by a fraction of an inch, do you say it's not dangerous because he didn't hit it?

That's where i think you are wrong. Those drivers in professional racing are not some internet kiddies, but grown ups (at least mature enough to judge the risk on their own). If Bar doesn't like it, he may as well do touring cars with a full rollcage and all.

So why limiting everything?? Trees - yes, too dangerous, but then, i see no trees on any racing circuits.
What's the next rule?
- You are not allowed to use the whole width of a track?
- Cars going side by side need to have x- amount of space between eachother?

True, and i wouldn't mind paying a reasonable amout for S3, if money is an issue.

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Race?

Sure, anytime.

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Sorry but I'd say that your post is more BS than his.

How can you say that the situation wasn't dangerous? It was VERY dangerous. If the pit wall was 2 or 3 meteers longer it would have ended horrible. And you can't tell me that MSC "calculated" that.

No, to the first line For example, not everybody hates SCHM, they fear him as a strong racing driver. BF exaggerates and i call it BS

And i think, SCH pretty much knows what he does and that the risk is indeed caculated (as far as that is possible in this sport). It surely is dangerous, there is no doubt about that, but nothing happened, right? A soon as Bar came back he made space, unlike Mr.W who likes to put his front wheel into your rear, while you're ahead.

Barichello is probably getting too old for this sport

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but I think that they made a big mistake by going with a licensed vehicle like the VW.

I think it helped improve the Tires, infact Scawen said so, IIRC. It takes more time, but would anyway, sooner or later.

oooh got to check this out on the weekend ^^

Thx alot for sharing guys!

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No, if Barrichello had been put into the wall life wouldn't go on. For him and probobaly a few dozen spectators. Yes, it was exciting, but it was dirty and was not just risking his own and Barrichello's life, but potentially risking killing or injuring alot of people at the event. Alot of which came to support HIM. He'd rather kill anyone but himself, Schumacher is the definition of a coward you can't believe anything he says, almost all that comes from his mouth is a lie, non of the other drivers like him, doesn't that say something about who he REALLY is?

BS as usual, Bar probably laughs about it now. Just because he shat his pants for once doesnt mean that it was that dangerous. what do you call Webbers actions BTW? - Hyporite!

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Its this one i believe Click

Correct, that pack it is. Just read through it. Few people noted it, although, of course it's a great effort, but in the end it's not much worth.

In a PM he told me, that he pre-squezzed them, by eye (not sure atm, I'd need to search the message xD). However, he used 2 different programs and while pasting and such, something gone wrong probably.
As far as i'm aware, he hasn't recheck or updated them since.

@ schuppor, ...and you're doin it gooood. Well, excellent actually, but that is no news and thx for the support.

right...

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Tein XRR

Looks good. Love the colour, but Jozy, are my words nothing worth? I 'd appreciate an honest answer I told you that logopack is screwed up and so are your Logos now. (at least the tein and castrol)

Except that it's nice, if you'd ignore the missalignment on the left-hand-side.

At least you had fun

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"If you see a Tree, you are understeering. If you hear it, you are oversteering"

"You can't treat a Car like a Human Being - a Car needs Love"

- Walter Röhrl

as serious as i was about my last race i was challenged to

<- fail. I was hovering over that emoticon and read "Tit". I realise now Its meant "titanic" and that you're afraid of my driving skills, which is absolutely reasonable.

Well, maybe not, I'm avarage at best.
But with some effects, post editing and impressive music, a movie of this meaningful event, could easily be the greatest LFS video, ever, in history, to date and un-forseeable future (untill S3 :P)

Last edited by JazzOn, Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:59.