Quote from lamerr :

At this point off the season, I will never view Vettel in the same way. Blatantly pointing and spinning his finger at his head, indicating what an idiot Webber is, was not called for at all, and made himself appear as a major idiot.

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Considering the 2 are team mates, its a 80/20 incident, where Vettel has majority of the blame

I know i said i leave, but i can't resist :P

Indeed it wasn't political correct, knowing all cameras catch every emotion or action you take, but i have to say that i'd rather see someone expressing his thoughts, than act as if nothing happend. I'm sure they both regret things they have done this weekend.

And i'd actually say from the POV of the Team, facing very quick Mclarens closing in, i say 70/30 with Webber at fault.

just my 2 cents, gn8

Quote from BlueFlame :

They are team mates, so if you blame Webber for not giving enough room, then surely the fact Vettel went for a gap that was barely there is enough blame to put on Vettel and judge that the incident was purely Vettels fault.

Sorry, i can't blame Vettel for being able to actually managed to get alongside and put his nose infront. The racing was tough and fun to watch, but it needs 2 (btw) to cause an accident.

PS: huh, where was vettel on the grass? Webber had the whole rest of the track to still make it hard for Vettel.

Im just dissapointed and predict Webber will never be World Champion.

Edit: damn im slow

Quote from BlueFlame :

In an LFS race, if you went for a tiny gap and then caused contact as a result,

no, you would be almost skyrocketed

greetz Jaz

/thread ^^

In all fairness, richo, i'm just saying that Webber is at fault too and that's for the most part.

He should, with his age and experience, use the whole right part of the track (how much was there?) to start his counter attack, or for that matter, defend his position.

Edit: man blueflame, you're a dickhead.

/thread

Quote from The Moose :

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I bet JazzOn is one of those guys that thinks people should just move over and let him by when he's faster, then wrecks when they actually put up a fight, and spends the rest of the session spamming the chat "It was your fault, you should have let me past, I was faster than you"

Well, seeing as the real rival coming up behind them, it makes perfectly sence to let the faster teammate pass. I'm not saying that Webber is at fault entirely, but he should have read the race and think about the team (the one thats lets him play with those fast cars and pay him good money )

I am just dissapointed of him, because he wasn't as smart and wise as i expected/thought of him.

And no, i would spam " mirrors mirrors" :P

Seriously, like i already said. Last lap, last corner - alright.. defend, but it wasn't over yet by far and the mclaren showed how to defend there in a fair manner, especially against your mate. I can fully understand why Vettel did what he did as a Racedriver.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Explain to me why he wasn't using his brain properly?

I have done that already...idiot

What you guys seem to not realise is that the Mclaren are faster on the straight with their duct.

Forcing your teammate to the side, where only his car can barely fit in and not thinking about the "real" rival that will take advantage of them both going way slower through the corners as they could, when both turn into that corner coming from the actual right side of the track..

Im not saying Vettel is unguilty, but Webber was too narrow minded to read the race. I assume you guys don't have a team (anymore)? I wouldn't wonder...

Quote from mythdat :

I don't think Webber really 'squeezed' Vettel, though. I mean it wasn't as if Webber pushed him across the track - Vettel was already up against the left side of the track, he put himself there. Webber just held him there.

There was a rival with the name Hamilon coming up real fast and going right to take the shortly coming left turn in a reasonable speed.

Webber acted as if this was last lap, last corner...


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Quote from Intrepid :

It's motor racing, NOT a charity. I think you're mixing the two up! Vettel had not won ANY corner, and was NOT ahead in any shape or form. He had a small over lap and turned INTO Webber.

IDK if you watch F1 for 1st time, but getting alongside someone means you done something right and thats not what you can say about Webber. Again... it wasn't last lap. He could have defend his position still from the right side (example: mclaren guys)

Last edited by JazzOn, Sun 30 May 2010, 19:07.

Weird but i agree Jpeace.

Webber showed he's not as wise and smart as he wants everybody to believe. I definitely won't support him anymore

I predict he will never be a champion! quote me...

Quote from Intrepid :

Webber did nothing wrong. Vettel didn't give Webber any time to move over which he would have done given a few more yards. For some reason Seb thought half a car length meant he could sweep and cut Webber. He was 100% wrong, and his actions afterwards were completely disgraceful to the point of embarrassing.

Seb had moved across on Hamilton in a similar way earlier in the race funnily enough.

Vettel will be the one kicking himself tonight.

And it wasn't 'his corner'. They hadn't even reached the braking zone yet

He did wrong by screwing his team. He should have been aware of the fact that 2 faster cars come. One of them being a teammate. This wasn't the time to get the elbows out.

And of course it was already his(Vettels) turn. What do you expect to happen? Webber geting suddenly, completely out of nowhere, a boost in speed? They dont use KERS, do they?

Quote from Intrepid :

Of course Webber didn't help. It's motor racing! Helping someone to pass is the complete opposite of what racing means

Vettel just assumed Webber would 'let him through'. Webber, fearing a repeat of Malaysia, rightly decided to not be a pussy

He was already past Webber, but Webber didn't even considered move to the outside although he was passed already...

Maybe Webber wasn't a pussy but a dickhead and an Idiot. AsTeamchef i'd be pissed about him.

All he done was playing in the hand of Mclaren.

LoL @ mythdat, you're deluded... watch the replay. It was Vettels corner... Webber lost.

Quote from JCTK :

McLaren drivers showed the Red Bulls pairing how to race...

Webber and Vettel both just need to stop being an idiot and it would have been fine...

absolutly right. Looking at the link from above it looks like it was last lap, last corner, but hamilton is right there. He's even in the picture already and there was no time to loose whatsoever for RBR. Webber wasn't really a teamplayer here, unfortunately.

E: Agreed, devildare. Thats what i was saying before, Webber could have kept outside and still being able to defend his position. He worked for Mclaren in this race.

Quote from DevilDare :

...They will know better next time...

no overtaking?

Well, fact is, Vettel was alongside Webber. As much as i like him and reallly enjoyed seeing him winning in the last races and felt with im with his poor performance at australia, where the nerves didn't played for him. This incident could have been avoided by him - Vettel was faster. I see him apologiese in the near future to the team. He could have defend his position still by using the outline. He's the dickhead in this case and fully understandable that Vettel is disapointed by his friend/teammate.

E: exactly lionclaw23
E2: take into account Vettel was on the 'bumpy/dirty' side. I rather enjoy drivers racing, then blocking and have the usually boring F1 races. Webber with his experience should be aware of this fact that Vettel will have it extremely difficult anyways by trying.

Last edited by JazzOn, Sun 30 May 2010, 14:32.

Indeed 5tag, and thats why i had to reply to Rayfighter again, after the quote.
It made me wonder a little bit and I want in no way encourage this.

I should have kept quiete and let this handled by the creator himself aka c40z - It was already enough said. (edit: i assume c40z got pm's or something xD)

PS: At least the subject gets attention, although the 'usual robber' might not even happen to see this or cant be bothered to read 2 sentences :/

Last edited by JazzOn, Sat 29 May 2010, 11:04.

Quote from RAYfighter :

...(some random dood comes to you with "cool skins Ray, make my team skin!). Same goes to screenie, posted here since their forum doesn't allow attachments. ...

Well if some dood comes, i would ask him who the F he is anyways

And i hope that you just use lfs forum, because its more comforatble, isn't the only reason. It would defeat the purpose of credit.

BTW while you highlight/quote me, could you change "it is wrong to do it" in bold fonts. Thank you!

It is wrong to do it, but... he made it public, gives proper credit and he didn't totally screw it up. I wouldn't say it goes great together, but it kinda blends in.

How many J. edit skins massively and claim it as their own!? That's a shame!

On a side note, i find the name hilarious.. there are at least Absolute no skinning skills, if they have to adit public skins :P

On the edit, Rayfighter, the lights look good, but maybe to bright for the enviroment lighting. Or have some of the little mirrors still visible.

my2cents

Last edited by JazzOn, Sat 29 May 2010, 11:05. Reason : Highlights

Quote from lizardfolk :

Would laguna seca be feasible for f1?

too much noise

Quote from Lataamo :

http://www.lfsworld.net/showsk ... A.JPG&r=1274932278600

Dude, give me your password so i can see that skin. At the moment only you can see that page ^^

Try the G25/G27 then. Its all included in the Logitech Gaming Software (LGS) aka Logitech Profiler

Google is your friend.

Out of the blue, try going to System --> Gamecontrollers and set it up there. Or dowload the drivers where you can set it up too.

Quote from Drift King CZ :

Great pack

^same.

Thank you very much for the time and passion you've put into this, Lynce.

It's a must-have!

Last edited by JazzOn, Wed 26 May 2010, 17:41. Reason : added quote

Quote from zeugnimod :

I never said I voted for you!

lmao

Voted for you mp3astra.

Good Luck!

Quote from 5tag :

I was saying: If it resembles a computer game skin, it should have pixels.

hehe, yeah a lot of room for interpretation in the OP question.

I would imagine a skin on a real car to look like this. (attachment)

I was trying to be sarcastic, but it failed i guess. I mean whats the difference between an "LFS" skin/paint-job/livery and a real car that has been painted.

Or like 5tag said, using a 1024px skin, print it out and slap on a real car?

Of course it has been done It happens very often.

Here'a a recent job by someone that show a few at the same time http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1428345#post1428345

But you can also search the forum to find even more.

Seriously, weird question man.