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JazzOn
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Just for interessts, do you have an image of that eagle? This would be an annoying thing to repaint.
JazzOn
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I hope so, because it gives it a more authentic "look". With all the diferently morphed decals, it always looks kinda toy-ish. It actually even alters the whole look of the car.
It's extremely noticable if you'd compare the cars directly.

PPS: to find the degree, you could use a simple stripe instead of messing with the logo itself. With a stripe you can figure the value out to almost nano precision
JazzOn
S2 licensed
It's simply really and you don't need to check the topic, but GavD999 made a nice example, that shows the basic problem for LFS skins.

The value for the FX is 65(%) for the sides. That means you rotate your Side-logo (cusco/tomei) and squeeze/push it together to 65% of its width.
Only problem is, the first time you do this, for this livery in example, you need to use a bit less degree than the paint it's supposed to fit it, cos due to the squeezing, the angle changes. Once you got the value, you have it for the other side of the car too.

The way it is now, each side logo is expanded (I already hate the word stretching xD), which results in a extremely kursiv side-logo on one side, and the other the letters are almost vertical (unlike the original logo)
Your hood logo is stretched horizontal.

Sounds more complicated then it really is. If you do it chilled out, including a pissbreak, a coffe, a bj, another pissbreak and a smoke, you're done in 10 min

PS. the only logo thats original is on the rear, because there is no stretching.
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JazzOn
S2 licensed
nice, except that you seem to never give a shoot about the aspect ration of the logos.

Left looks different to the right and even more so to the front version.

It's a pity really.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
I just had a look at the xj220 account and its quite nice; all with your name/number-plate and good attention to detail, indeed.

About the dds... i don't think it will be downscaled, but the compression might not be as good. I havn't really noticed any quality loss, but i barely open the game.exe these days xD
I know from test, i did myself, that lfsw skins suffer huge quality loss. While self-scaled is rather blurry, the downloaded are fugly-blocky.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
If you havn't uploaded he can see it only when you send it to him manually (and he put it in his skin folder)

Don't you get a message being online that says skin not uploaded?
JazzOn
S2 licensed
remove the IMGtags. From what i can see there are too many colors;whit and black goes good together
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Uke, what fighting ?? We were just honest with each other - Basis of every successful relationship

... and now the cicle closes. There was in no way any creativity of me involved in this skin. It's was a request. I just had to figure out the transition from hood to the side.

Your skin Russ... well... i don't wanna talk about it now
Just that, something like this has been done already (although alot better).
Pretty much usual racing style. You use (RL)sponsors with cocacola as the main theme.

If you had said this, rather then "hello i want a skin", there might have been a reply you'd have liked to read.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Never said bad or even thought The idea of the paint is to resemble the marlboro brand.
However, on a second thought, if you can't fix the stretching, mybe consider rearrange the logos... they often are very close to the edge of the shape; almost cut off.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Quote from Russ76 :you did a skin too haha i knocked one up aswell.

Interesting start to the GP tho and ferrari is going to get in shit for that move.

Show the skin so i can put you down on it :P

I just changed a bit of this one.

About F1 - ridiculous Rule. Its been done and will be again. nuff said xD
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Hi, Skins in LFS have a problem that shapes/parts of a car need the be squeezed to fit in the skin file. Different cars of different length need to be compensated accordingly to have an authentic/realistic look. Check this out.

As for the fox on the back, maybe make it alot smaller and 2 of em. It simply doesn't go along with the rest of the design (so far at least xD)

PS. better screenshots with more car and less enviroment, would help
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Well, maybe another time in winter, when motorsport season is over. I wanted to tell you to lets wait for the start to be over, because it was likely to be a boring f1 race anyways, but i don't mind.
I didn't enjoy driving this car as much as i did for the skin i refined for this "event" xD
JazzOn
S2 licensed
@nazca, I think you could make the "vf1 motorspoert" on the engine cover, horizontally. It kinda looks out of place now, imo.
I also noticed a wobbly line on the sidebox, but overall it's a very nice paint and well done.
Btw, where are your other skins? You have made only 1 post here.

@oscar, good but there are some alligning issues on the front-lefthander part. Also the rear (check attachment)
Further, you should check this out. It will make it look less toyish but more realistic and authentic (especially when using well know logos/decals)
Although, I think paint.net does have the option to do this. GIMP is very good alternative to PS and free.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Quote from Russ76 :??

nevermind.

Im running 2.21 best = u win
JazzOn
S2 licensed
ye, E:nvm
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JazzOn
S2 licensed
JoZy what's the "" supposed to mean?

It looks accurate tho, the michiman ain't skinny, nore is he overweighted, but something im curious about is the line. I'm guessing from the screens, it would do good if it goes a little bit up to the rear, ending basically on the top edge of the rearlight.

Anyway, good job so far!
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Right

It would be 12 utc for me then. I'm not sure about the lag, but thats not supposed to be an excuse... i know i get my ass kicked.

I'll be there, cya.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Sure, go advanced posting and manage attachment - hit reply.

Although we could do it with the fox too and get this over with.. i'm loosing my motivation.

Problem i see is with the actual date. Do do dj every weekend? If so it seems hard to find a date, i guess. You say sunday is no good, but seems most suitable.
Post a concrete tiem and i see how it works for me. We can then meet in the lfs lobby and find a server (do you have one; is it possible for europeans to race there)

Track doesn't matter for me. It's not like lfs track are difficult in generall (bumpsnstuff)
JazzOn
S2 licensed
LX6 is tough. indeed. We could use Lx4 which is a lot easier and i think quite fun and challenging on any track. But if thats all too tough for you... send me FXR set. I can't test it till saturday tho (friday night techical).

The track could be something else too. Westhill + lx should be fun for example. Fe4 is just the one you chose first, but any will do. It's up to you since you're the racer; im a skinner. All im asking is race. If you have 10sec advance on lap 2 against me, this challenge is none.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Hehe, well If you'd just had made yourself clearer from the beginning

And sadly i don't get to race often. Part of it is probably the lack of public racing. All i see are these multiclass server, which are pointless for somewhat serious racing and competition - althougfh it might be fun with the right kind of people. But then again, i don't have the time for it when im home.
Skinning (doing it good) takes quite enough time already and is actually work. Talent only plays a role if you want to create something new, which excludes me, admitedly.

The phrase of arsekicking, i did understood.. just wondering why we do this challenge, because it poofs none of my points wrong
But I'm excited about it and look forward to it. I havn't had the chance to drive the LX on Fern Bay either, so it should be an fair race. An FXR, for what you might have a set that's been tested by your whole 12 men team and aliens, doesn't sound fair to me.

cya
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Wow you used punctuation. I had doubt about my spontanious decision to accept the challenge, but now that you actually show some respect towards me, by making it at least a bit more comfortable to read, sets me in a good mood. Your Pm's so far were lacking massively in that regard - just like in this thread.

You are probably right about my pace, which makes it even more of a pointless challenge, but im a racer at heart and will be there. Good for you that you've just had an official race on that combo. How about a different car, for example the LRF class? In this case we could do it even this weekend.

You seem to have the impression that i dislike LFS, which is utter BS... why am i here and bothering...
The reason that i don't drive that often is simply time and plights IRL. You wonder why i do skins then? it is relaxing and I enjoy it. I have a flexible time schedule doing that in my spare time. I can stop skinning when im out of time and can finish it another time.
That won't work if i'd commit to a league... If i compete in a championship, i want to attempt in every race, which is simply impossible for the foreseeable future.

BTW, It's not just about a "perfect logo". I did not comment on the rest of that skin, because it's his interpretation; mine would look different, but that doesn't matter, because the requester likes his version obviously. To make it clear: It would be a judgement on his creativity converting a livery from one model to another model with very different shapes. All i did was commenting the technical side of his work - there is nothing wrong by doing that, or is it?

Quote :After all this I don't even need this skin anymore FXO series i over(well sort of) so couldn't careless if i didn't get one now lol

So whoever would have spend even 1 hour, would have simply wasted his time, eh?
Quote :p.s i'll put it on here so if anyone want to see jazz get his arse kicked they can watch lol (i hope)http://www.worldtimeserver.com ... y=24&Mon=7&Y=2010 pick a time..... and then we can workout a server

Since you get so much joy out of kicking ass and motivate people to race, I challenge you with the underused LX6 for example, this weekend.

LX6 @ Fe4
Sa 24.07.2010 10:00 -14:00 UTC = Sa 24.07.2010 20:00 - 00:00 AT
Or Sunday.
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JazzOn
S2 licensed
Sounds good. The FXR is fine by me, although i prefer RWD's.

I see you're quite active in leagues. Is the Duck that alien that pawns IRL races with the V8's?

However, I can't really figure out why we are doing this anyway and what the point of it is, but i'm looking really forward to it. (imma make a skin for it :P ... or use an older one xD)

It's been a while since i drove in LFS ^^ And don't worry, i won't crash you out on purpose either.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
See, this is a request some-one could possibly be inspired by, but you seem still feel the need to defend yourself and you don't understand what i am saying.

1. Problem is that it is very difficult to do something completely new out of nowhere. ("1 sentence" in your original post) Thats why a direction is inevitably to have an satifying outcome for both partys. As i said, who wants to waste his time.

2. In your first post? ...before you complained that no-one cares?

3./4./5. And how is your Reputation. I personally don't know you or your Team, and so it is probably for a creative mind that could spend his time for you, on this forum at least.
A link to your website or your accomplishments might help there. Otherwise you're just one of so many that want a skin. And some definitely deserve one.

Now, maybe you just should start a new thread and provide infos. This one is kinda ****ed xD
I'm sure the mods will understand this case.
Give it a name that is useful and marks your expectations. This thread title seem like someone is looking for an issue to fix, whereas you want something completely new.
Quote from Russ76 :
that's about it really lol i didn't think that asking for a Team skin on here was such a big deal but i guess it was wrong

Consider yourself lucky

Peace


PS: Challenge accepted. We gonna do that at one point in time.
JazzOn
S2 licensed
Quote from Russ76 :I sore the posts of the movie skins and they seem to be doing a great job and enjoying them selfs doing it,and seem to be great skinners which don't need your stupid comments about a logo.Which they all ignored aswell lol how about saying good job guys but that logo might need some work,here you go, i looked for a image or i fixed that image for you here is the attachment.

You must really think that you could do a better job all tho you don't seem to do any skinning just leave dumb arse comments around the forum.


That fits you character you show here; very narrow-minded and short-sighted.

First of all, I do skins and i'm doing it good. You might have noticed, if you'd had read a bit in the finished skin section or even the request section.

Second, ... are we in kindergarten here?! I'm not here to cream honey around some butts. People like Gav or Kiste (just to name the ones from said thread), or whoever, did and will recieve compliments and critism from me - It's just not all publicly.
If one likes to ignore it - fine with me.

I make comments (mostly critism, indeed) when i feel the need to, whether it's compliments/credits or critism. This goes the other way around, too. I was, and am happy to get critism/credit.

But then again, how could you know... you're obviously lazy and stupid (note: stupidity is something you choose by refusing to think and learn - aka You! :really

BTW, In case of the Larrousse skin, i started making the skin. I was looking for the logos and stopped by checking the new posts in said thread - Guess what, It was already done by someone else.
And FTR and Your interest, Yes, I could do a better job on that one. What I am doing atm, is of no interest for this forum, because it's a private skin. What i intend to do in the future is already stated in the dedicated thread.

PS: Look for the ignore list (it's somewhere - find out) and add me to it. You (and whoever) won't see my comments anymore.

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And for someone that cares about the look of a skin you haven't even raced on the game in over 6 mths.So shut your trap stop leaving stupid boring comments or maybe actually helpout by doing skins or logo's and race the dam game that we all love.

What has skinning to do with racing?
Want to challenge me on the track?? Name the time, car and track and i'll be there!

@ Gav, Thx and good work on the Martini, as usual. It's nothing new and I don't like to spam that on and on around. You know what i think about your work and that i will tell you if i see something wrong. You know you're very good and worked for it.
I'm watching you
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